[Lnc-business] I am very very disturbed

[Elizabeth Van Horn]

"I do not agree that we need longer conventions. We need more efficient
>    conventions, particularly when it comes to elections"

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Agree.  This.  100%

I do think that future conventions can be built around business.  
Instead of the LP trying to be a mini-Freedom Fest, we have LP business, 
and a few break-out sessions focused on LP business related issues.  
Particularly, during a presidential convention.  (In off years, maybe a 
few more things that attract people other than business, so to have a 
draw)





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Elizabeth Van Horn
LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
LP Social Media Process Review Committee
Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
http://www.lpcaucus.org/


On 2018-07-05 21:39, Joshua Katz via Lnc-business wrote:
> As the saying goes, not my monkeys. But seeing as I'm still on this
>    list for the time being...I wasn't there, but I agree with the 
> points
>    made, assuming my inferences about how things must have gone are
>    correct. Which, obviously, has nothing at all to do with outcome. I
>    also agree that, with Presidential nominations last, the body will 
> not
>    simply leave that not done. I will point out that I attended the NAP
>    convention last year. It is smaller, but not on an entirely 
> different
>    scale. Elections, with many candidates, took 10 minutes per ballot 
> or
>    so. The LP needs to adopt a better method of balloting and counting.
>    I also agree that we have, to our detriment, deemphasized conducting
>    the party's business at our convention. I also acknowledge the
>    difficult spot the CoC is in, and I'm not saying I could do better. 
> I
>    am saying that, if I could start from scratch, with no history or 
> other
>    issues, I'd build the convention around the conduct of business. But 
> we
>    can't start from there, and I'm not sure I know a good way to move 
> us
>    in that direction.
>    I do not agree that we need longer conventions. We need more 
> efficient
>    conventions, particularly when it comes to elections.
> 
>    Joshua A. Katz
>    On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 11:00 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
>    <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> 
>         That is a bylaws change we passed.  So yes.  That is done.  And 
> I
>      bet
>         we magically never run out of time to nominate our ticket.
>         On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 9:59 AM, Craig Bowden
>      <[1][2]craig.bowden at lp.org>
>         wrote:
>           Is there any way we can move the order where we change the
>      order of
>           business to allow for things like the Judicial Committee to 
> be
>           earlier? This is a really important committee that shouldn't
>      just be
>           an afterthought.
>           On 2018-07-05 09:56, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>           The bylaws agenda change will help.  But it is deeper than
>      that.  We
>           do
>              not prioritize this.
>              On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 9:54 AM, Dustin Nanna
>           <[1][2][3]dustin.nanna at lp.org>
>              wrote:
>              Off year conventions need to be bumped up to 4 days and
>           presidential to
>              5.
>              Additionally electronic voting would do wonders for this.
>              Dustin Nanna
>              LNC Region 3 Alternate
>              Vice Chair/Deputy Communications Director
>              Libertarian Party of Ohio
>              (740) 816-9805
>              --
>              In Liberty,
>              Caryn Ann Harlos
>              Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
>      Secretary -
>              [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>              Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - 
> LPedia at LP.org
>              A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>              We defend your rights
>              And oppose the use of force
>              Taxation is theft
>           References
>              1. mailto:[3][4]dustin.nanna at lp.org
>              2. mailto:[4]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>         --
>         In Liberty,
>         Caryn Ann Harlos
>         Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary 
> -
>         [5]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>         Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>         A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>         We defend your rights
>         And oppose the use of force
>         Taxation is theft
>      References
>         1. mailto:[5]craig.bowden at lp.org
>         2. mailto:[6]dustin.nanna at lp.org
>         3. mailto:[7]dustin.nanna at lp.org
>         4. mailto:[8]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>         5. mailto:[9]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> 
> References
> 
>    1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>    2. mailto:craig.bowden at lp.org
>    3. mailto:dustin.nanna at lp.org
>    4. mailto:dustin.nanna at lp.org
>    5. mailto:craig.bowden at lp.org
>    6. mailto:dustin.nanna at lp.org
>    7. mailto:dustin.nanna at lp.org
>    8. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>    9. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org