[Lnc-business] Fwd: Re: Acknowledging election of JC members

Sam Goldstein sam.goldstein at lp.org
Fri Jul 6 13:09:36 EDT 2018


I spoke with Chuck Moulton today and the JC from the prior term is also
working on a resolution of this problem that 

contains the concept in this motion.  Chuck will send us the results of
their discussion and vote later this evening.  I 

think we can work through the problem this time but need a Bylaws
correction in 2020 to avoid it in the future.

---
Sam Goldstein
Libertarian National Committee
317-850-0726 Cell 

On 2018-07-06 12:57, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:

> I do want to point that at least one regional representative has asked for information that the region is requesting to wit: 
> 
> 1.  Have the ballots been retained?  (I am sure they have but I don't want to answer presumptuously) 
> 2.  Will a state by state breakdown be provided. 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 10:05 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello all, I acknowledge this and the necessary co-sponsorships.  I will get an email ballot started this evening as well as sending out basic instructions to new members on email voting. 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 8:49 AM, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> Mr. Merced,
> 
> I stand correction. I am still half asleep two days after the convention!
> 
> ---
> Sam Goldstein
> Libertarian National Committee
> 317-850-0726 Cell
> 
> On 2018-07-06 10:08, Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via Lnc-business wrote:
> Mr. Goldstein, Joe Bishop-Henchman is the originator of the Motion, I
> merely am a co-sponsor of it.
> 
> Alex Merced
> Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee
> 
> On Jul 6, 2018, at 10:06 AM, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> 
> Robert,
> 
> I assume the prior JC had an email list.  If it still exists can you
> please forward this:
> 
> The LNC is contemplating the following motion and would like to get the
> opinion of the prior JC since we really have no procedure for
> 
> dealing this this situation:
> 
> Proposed Email ballot by Alex Merced:
> 
> "I move that the Libertarian National Committee acknowledge the
> election of the following to the Judicial Committee for a four-year
> term: D. Frank Robinson, Chuck Moulton, Darryl Perry, Ruth Bennett,
> Geoff Neale, Jim Turney, and Tricia Sprankle."
> 
> Theses seven people gained the most votes by the delegates at
> convention but none of them
> 
> had a majority.
> 
> I use the phrase "acknowledge the election of" instead of your
> suggestion, Mr. Goldstein, because the LNC neither has appointment
> power for the JC nor are they subordinate to the LNC. This is more in
> the nature of our acknowledging the legitimacy of the new JC members. -
> Alex Merced
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> ---
> Sam Goldstein
> Libertarian National Committee
> 317-850-0726 Cell
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> 
> Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Acknowledging election of JC members
> Date: 2018-07-06 09:55
> From: "Alex Merced \(LNC Vice Chair\) via Lnc-business"
> <lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
> To: lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> Cc: "Alex Merced \(LNC Vice Chair\)" <alex.merced at lp.org>
> Reply-To: lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 
> Reaffirming my Sponsorship of this motion, agree with Mr. Goldstein
> that opinions from Judicial Committee Members would be useful prior to
> voting on the motion if can be obtained in a timely manner.
> Alex Merced
> Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee
> 
> On Jul 6, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business
> <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> In addition to Mr. Merced, I will also co-sponsor this motion.
> However, even though the prior JC is defunct, I'd like to get their
> opinion of the proposal.
> ---
> Sam Goldstein
> Libertarian National Committee
> 317-850-0726 Cell
> 
> On 2018-07-06 07:42, Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business wrote:
> At Mr. Merced's suggestion, I'm creating this as a new thread.
> Appreciate the input. Since it sounds like we may tackle how to move
> forward on balloting/tabulation at the September meeting, or through
> alternative proposals, and the consensus is only immediately
> handling
> the JC issue, I'd like to seek co-sponsors for the following:
> I move that the Libertarian National Committee acknowledge the
> election of the following to the Judicial Committee for a four-year
> term: D. Frank Robinson, Chuck Moulton, Darryl Perry, Ruth Bennett,
> Geoff Neale, Jim Turney, and Tricia Sprankle.
> I use the phrase "acknowledge the election of" instead of your
> suggestion, Mr. Goldstein, because the LNC neither has appointment
> power for the JC nor are they subordinate to the LNC. This is more
> in
> the nature of our acknowledging the legitimacy of the new JC
> members.
> 
> References
> 
> 1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org

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IN LIBERTY, 
CARYN ANN HARLOS 
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -
Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org 
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado [1] 
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee 

A haiku to the Statement of Principles: 
_We defend your rights_ 
_And oppose the use of force_ 
_Taxation is theft_ 

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-- 

IN LIBERTY, 
CARYN ANN HARLOS 
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -
Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org 
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado [1] 
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee 

A haiku to the Statement of Principles: 
_We defend your rights_ 
_And oppose the use of force_ 
_Taxation is theft_ 

Links:
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[1] http://www.lpcolorado.org/
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   I spoke with Chuck Moulton today and the JC from the prior term is also
   working on a resolution of this problem that

   contains the concept in this motion.  Chuck will send us the results of
   their discussion and vote later this evening.  I

   think we can work through the problem this time but need a Bylaws
   correction in 2020 to avoid it in the future.

   ---
   Sam Goldstein
   Libertarian National Committee
   317-850-0726 Cell

   On 2018-07-06 12:57, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:

   I do want to point that at least one regional representative has asked
   for information that the region is requesting to wit:

   1.  Have the ballots been retained?  (I am sure they have but I don't
   want to answer presumptuously)
   2.  Will a state by state breakdown be provided.


   On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 10:05 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
   <[1]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:

   Hello all, I acknowledge this and the necessary co-sponsorships.  I
   will get an email ballot started this evening as well as sending out
   basic instructions to new members on email voting.

   On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 8:49 AM, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business
   <[2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

     Mr. Merced,
     I stand correction. I am still half asleep two days after the
     convention!
     ---
     Sam Goldstein
     Libertarian National Committee
     317-850-0726 Cell

   On 2018-07-06 10:08, Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via Lnc-business
   wrote:

     Mr. Goldstein, Joe Bishop-Henchman is the originator of the Motion,
     I
     merely am a co-sponsor of it.
     Alex Merced
     Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee

     On Jul 6, 2018, at 10:06 AM, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business
     <[3]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
       Robert,
       I assume the prior JC had an email list.  If it still exists can
     you
       please forward this:
       The LNC is contemplating the following motion and would like to
     get the
       opinion of the prior JC since we really have no procedure for
       dealing this this situation:
       Proposed Email ballot by Alex Merced:
       "I move that the Libertarian National Committee acknowledge the
       election of the following to the Judicial Committee for a
     four-year
       term: D. Frank Robinson, Chuck Moulton, Darryl Perry, Ruth
     Bennett,
       Geoff Neale, Jim Turney, and Tricia Sprankle."
       Theses seven people gained the most votes by the delegates at
       convention but none of them
       had a majority.
       I use the phrase "acknowledge the election of" instead of your
       suggestion, Mr. Goldstein, because the LNC neither has appointment
       power for the JC nor are they subordinate to the LNC. This is more
     in
       the nature of our acknowledging the legitimacy of the new JC
     members. -
       Alex Merced
       Thanks,
       ---
       Sam Goldstein
       Libertarian National Committee
       317-850-0726 Cell
       -------- Original Message --------
       Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Acknowledging election of JC members
       Date: 2018-07-06 09:55
       From: "Alex Merced \(LNC Vice Chair\) via Lnc-business"
       <[4]lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
       To: [5]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
       Cc: "Alex Merced \(LNC Vice Chair\)" <[6]alex.merced at lp.org>
       Reply-To: [7]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
       Reaffirming my Sponsorship of this motion, agree with Mr.
     Goldstein
       that opinions from Judicial Committee Members would be useful
     prior to
       voting on the motion if can be obtained in a timely manner.
       Alex Merced
       Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee
         On Jul 6, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business
         <[1][8]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
         In addition to Mr. Merced, I will also co-sponsor this motion.
         However, even though the prior JC is defunct, I'd like to get
     their
         opinion of the proposal.
         ---
         Sam Goldstein
         Libertarian National Committee
         317-850-0726 Cell
         On 2018-07-06 07:42, Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business wrote:
         At Mr. Merced's suggestion, I'm creating this as a new thread.
         Appreciate the input. Since it sounds like we may tackle how to
     move
         forward on balloting/tabulation at the September meeting, or
     through
         alternative proposals, and the consensus is only immediately
         handling
         the JC issue, I'd like to seek co-sponsors for the following:
         I move that the Libertarian National Committee acknowledge the
         election of the following to the Judicial Committee for a
     four-year
         term: D. Frank Robinson, Chuck Moulton, Darryl Perry, Ruth
     Bennett,
         Geoff Neale, Jim Turney, and Tricia Sprankle.
         I use the phrase "acknowledge the election of" instead of your
         suggestion, Mr. Goldstein, because the LNC neither has
     appointment
         power for the JC nor are they subordinate to the LNC. This is
     more
         in
         the nature of our acknowledging the legitimacy of the new JC
         members.
     References
       1. mailto:[9]lnc-business at hq.lp.org


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   --
   In Liberty,
   Caryn Ann Harlos
   Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
   Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington)
   - [10]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
   Communications Director, [11]Libertarian Party of Colorado
   Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee

   A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
   We defend your rights
   And oppose the use of force
   Taxation is theft


   --
   --
   In Liberty,
   Caryn Ann Harlos
   Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
   Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington)
   - [12]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
   Communications Director, [13]Libertarian Party of Colorado
   Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee

   A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
   We defend your rights
   And oppose the use of force
   Taxation is theft

References

   1. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
   2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   3. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   4. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   5. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   6. mailto:alex.merced at lp.org
   7. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   8. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   9. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  10. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
  11. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
  12. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
  13. http://www.lpcolorado.org/


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