[Lnc-business] Listing Ideas Thread

Sun Jul 8 10:01:07 EDT 2018

I do support both the committee ideas and more non lnc members.
John Phillips
Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
Cell 217-412-5973
------ Original message------From: Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via Lnc-business Date: Sun, Jul 8, 2018 8:45 AMTo: lnc-business at hq.lp.org;Cc: Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair);Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Listing Ideas Thread
Awesome, that was very useful Mr. Henchman. Based on this info does that mean you support the idea of making some of these new committees have more non-LNC members and less LNC members to have more outside perspectives and not to spread the LNC itself too thin?

Also is this also the sentiment I heard from a few others? Just want to clarify so I can factor it in future motions (use 2/5 or 1/4  LNC/Non-LNC ratios instead of 4/3 or 3/2 like I’ve seen done in the past)

Alex Merced
Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee

> On Jul 8, 2018, at 9:10 AM, Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business  wrote:
> 
> I'm interested in exploring this, in part because I was a non-LNC member of the Bylaws Committee last year and I felt I brought a perspective different from that of the LNC members (generally, willing to pursue good ideas that "had always failed before" and unwilling to support ideas that didn't really make sense to me but perhaps related to some past LNC battle). While most committees have a fixed number of LNC members, some committees have a maximum number of LNC members and I know those have often been treated as floors rather than ceilings. Obviously there's a balance there, I'm sure.
> 
> I added up all the various seats yesterday - not counting the new committee ideas from Mr. Merced and others - and it's about 30 seats for the 24 of us (not counting Nick, who sits non-voting ex-officio on everything). (Spreadsheet attached.) Adding outreach, retention, elections, etc., brings us up to something in the high 40s for the 24 of us. So for myself I'm planning on trying to get on no more than 1-2 committees, to allow more focus for myself and spreading around things for everyone else.
> 
> JBH
> 
> 
>> On 2018-07-08 01:01, Craig Bowden via Lnc-business wrote:
>> Hey everyone,
>> Starchild wrote me with a good idea to supplement what I said earlier
>> about have more inclusion of membership of the party on committees,
>> and limiting the LNC involvement. He brought up the need for increased
>> transparency from the committees and more regular reports to the LNC,
>> so that while we are limiting our involvement in the committees
>> (assuming you all agree), there is still direction and guidance given
>> as we are the governing body of the party.
>> Since I am very big on transparency, I definitely want more of that.
>> And while I may want to see more involvement from more people, we need
>> to still have the ability to give our input at meetings when the
>> committees report.
>> Regards,
>> Craig Bowden
>> Region 1 Alternate
>>> On 2018-07-07 14:25, Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via Lnc-business wrote:
>>> I know we can’t get to everything next meeting but I know we all have
>>> ideas or things we’d like to get to at some point so I figure I’d
>>> start a thread not so much for discussion but just so we can have a
>>> running list of things we want to looking we can get back to.
>>> So post your ideas, thoughts and stuff here.
>>> Two Ideas I’ve had I hope we’ll revisit/visit at some point down the road are:
>>> - Outreach Committee (ad hoc): Identity subject experts within the
>>> party already doing outreach to different segments to create a
>>> document affiliates and candidates can use on who to reach out to in
>>> these areas.
>>> - Retention Committee (ad hoc): Survey new members on why they joined,
>>> survey expired members on why they left and present ideas to the LNC
>>> to improve retention as well as be a team that those who may be
>>> frustrated can reach out to. (A team of the nicest people in the party
>>> to keep people from leaving essentially)
>>> I know everyone is keen to discuss election reform, the Blockchain
>>> committee should be renewed if at least to work on the compliance
>>> Guide for candidates.
>>> I’d also like to hear from the fundraising and tech staff if there is
>>> any new promising investments in software or data that can be used to
>>> increase membership and ground game.
>>> Alex Merced
>>> p.S. List your ideas so this way we can always look back to this
>>> thread to see we have or haven’t gotten to yet.
>>> Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee
> 
> -- 
> JBH
> 
> ------------
> Joe Bishop-Henchman
> LNC Member (At-Large)
> joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
> 

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   I do support both the committee ideas and more non lnc members.
   John Phillips
   Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
   Cell [1]217-412-5973

   ------ Original message------
   From: Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via Lnc-business
   Date: Sun, Jul 8, 2018 8:45 AM
   To: [2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
   Cc: Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair);
   Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Listing Ideas Thread
Awesome, that was very useful Mr. Henchman. Based on this info does that mean yo
u support the idea of making some of these new committees have more non-LNC memb
ers and less LNC members to have more outside perspectives and not to spread the
 LNC itself too thin?

Also is this also the sentiment I heard from a few others? Just want to clarify
so I can factor it in future motions (use 2/5 or 1/4  LNC/Non-LNC ratios instead
 of 4/3 or 3/2 like I’ve seen done in the past)

Alex Merced
Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee

> On Jul 8, 2018, at 9:10 AM, Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business  wrote:
>
> I'm interested in exploring this, in part because I was a non-LNC member of th
e Bylaws Committee last year and I felt I brought a perspective different from t
hat of the LNC members (generally, willing to pursue good ideas that "had always
 failed before" and unwilling to support ideas that didn't really make sense to
me but perhaps related to some past LNC battle). While most committees have a fi
xed number of LNC members, some committees have a maximum number of LNC members
and I know those have often been treated as floors rather than ceilings. Obvious
ly there's a balance there, I'm sure.
>
> I added up all the various seats yesterday - not counting the new committee id
eas from Mr. Merced and others - and it's about 30 seats for the 24 of us (not c
ounting Nick, who sits non-voting ex-officio on everything). (Spreadsheet attach
ed.) Adding outreach, retention, elections, etc., brings us up to something in t
he high 40s for the 24 of us. So for myself I'm planning on trying to get on no
more than 1-2 committees, to allow more focus for myself and spreading around th
ings for everyone else.
>
> JBH
>
>
>> On [3]2018-07-08 01:01, Craig Bowden via Lnc-business wrote:
>> Hey everyone,
>> Starchild wrote me with a good idea to supplement what I said earlier
>> about have more inclusion of membership of the party on committees,
>> and limiting the LNC involvement. He brought up the need for increased
>> transparency from the committees and more regular reports to the LNC,
>> so that while we are limiting our involvement in the committees
>> (assuming you all agree), there is still direction and guidance given
>> as we are the governing body of the party.
>> Since I am very big on transparency, I definitely want more of that.
>> And while I may want to see more involvement from more people, we need
>> to still have the ability to give our input at meetings when the
>> committees report.
>> Regards,
>> Craig Bowden
>> Region 1 Alternate
>>> On [4]2018-07-07 14:25, Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via Lnc-business wrote:
>>> I know we can’t get to everything next meeting but I know we all have
>>> ideas or things we’d like to get to at some point so I figure I’d
>>> start a thread not so much for discussion but just so we can have a
>>> running list of things we want to looking we can get back to.
>>> So post your ideas, thoughts and stuff here.
>>> Two Ideas I’ve had I hope we’ll revisit/visit at some point down the road ar
e:
>>> - Outreach Committee (ad hoc): Identity subject experts within the
>>> party already doing outreach to different segments to create a
>>> document affiliates and candidates can use on who to reach out to in
>>> these areas.
>>> - Retention Committee (ad hoc): Survey new members on why they joined,
>>> survey expired members on why they left and present ideas to the LNC
>>> to improve retention as well as be a team that those who may be
>>> frustrated can reach out to. (A team of the nicest people in the party
>>> to keep people from leaving essentially)
>>> I know everyone is keen to discuss election reform, the Blockchain
>>> committee should be renewed if at least to work on the compliance
>>> Guide for candidates.
>>> I’d also like to hear from the fundraising and tech staff if there is
>>> any new promising investments in software or data that can be used to
>>> increase membership and ground game.
>>> Alex Merced
>>> p.S. List your ideas so this way we can always look back to this
>>> thread to see we have or haven’t gotten to yet.
>>> Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee
>
> --
> JBH
>
> ------------
> Joe Bishop-Henchman
> LNC Member (At-Large)
>[5] joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> [6]www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>

References

   1. tel:217-412-5973
   2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   3. tel:2018-07-08 01
   4. tel:2018-07-07 14
   5. mailto: joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
   6. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837