[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-11: ACKNOWLEDGE ELECTION OF JC
erin.adams at lp.org
erin.adams at lp.org
Wed Jul 11 10:13:31 EDT 2018
I disagree that " A room of
> several hundred Libertarians were not coerced into doing that" They
> were given no real option. It was accept this or have the LNC appoint,
> PERIOD. I'm sorry but that is bullshit. There WERE other remedies
> available, the body WAS NOT informed of them, that is unacceptable.
> This entire thing is gross
On 2018-07-09 16:16, Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business wrote:
> I get the anger. I'm angry. When we ultimately do get the
> state-by-state tallies, I'm sure we'll find that hundreds of delegates
> didn't even vote in the two races because we put them off so long. In
> the 2016 convention, whole states didn't cast votes in the At-Large
> and JC races. Them's the rules - elections are won by those who stay
> and vote - but oh my did we make it hard. The combination of voting
> methodology, tabulation method, and scheduling left us in a bad place.
>
> All that said, I don't want to just be angry and complain. As far as
> actions that can be taken, this resolution is the most reasonable.
> Other possibilities - revotes or mail votes of all Party members or us
> filling the JC seats or setting multiple JCs in motion - are even more
> violative of the Bylaws and Rules.
>
> I do not dispute that one can reasonably argue that every JC candidate
> was disapproved and that it should sit empty until 2022. The contrary
> view admittedly rests on a thread of legality: the delegates expressed
> their wish to take the top at-large candidates and the Bylaws say the
> same applies for the JC. There's also no doubt in my mind that had
> they been asked they would have done the same for the JC. A room of
> several hundred Libertarians were not coerced into doing that - they
> went with what Nick suggested because that's what they wanted to do.
> He just told them how. They didn't want the LNC fighting over who
> would fill the seats if they were left vacant.
>
> I doubt I'm going to convince you but I did want to write this to
> emphasize that at least I am not sanguine or sweeping anything
> blithely under the rug. I expect rethinking how we do elections will
> be a big priority for many of us.
>
> JBH
>
> On 2018-07-09 16:46, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>> Suspension of the rules has to be specific and there is no way around
>> the fact that we used the number 5 over and over.
>>
>> This is taking things to an even deeper level of improper. I
>> object to
>> the whole at-Large process- I don’t think the delegates made an
>> independent choice and now to just infer this upon that is two
>> bridges
>> too far.
>>
>> This is a big screwup and I won’t be part of sweeping it under the
>> rug.
>>
>> It alarms me to no end how blithely the whole situation is being
>> taken.
>>
>> There are people looking at us and seeing nothing different than
>> the
>> government we wish to reform.
>>
>> There was a controversial election and at least one state chair and
>> candidate has been asking for the state by state rallies with no
>> time
>> frame given him.
>>
>> The whole thing was an affront to people expecting an entirely
>> different thing when they ran. I will not be sanguine about it.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 2:20 PM Whitney Bilyeu
>> <[1]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> This point did come up immediately after adjournment, while Nick
>> was
>> still at the mic. I don't recall who brought it up, but the
>> statement
>> was made that it would follow the same procedure as At-Large at
>> that
>> point, since we were no longer in session.
>> No one raised the question prior to that.
>> Whitney Bilyeu
>> Region 7 Representative
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:07 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
>> <[2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> Joshua they were not given a choice on this. The JC never
>> came
>> up.
>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 11:47 AM <[1][3]joshua.smith at lp.org>
>> wrote:
>> I vote yes. Given that the delegates were given the choice
>> at
>> convention
>> just a few short days ago, I believe we should respect that
>> decision.
>> Thanks,
>> Joshua D. Smith
>> On 2018-07-07 22:23, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
>> wrote:
>> > We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the
>> LNC-Business
>> > list by July 14, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
>> Co-Sponsors:
>> > Bishop-Henchman, Goldstein, Hagan, Merced, Van Horn
>> Motion:
>> Move
>> > that
>> > the Libertarian National Committee acknowledge the
>> election of
>> the
>> > following to the Judicial Committee for a four-year
>> term:
>> D.
>> Frank
>> > Robinson, Chuck Moulton, Darryl Perry, Ruth Bennett,
>> Geoff
>> Neale,
>> > Jim
>> > Turney, and Tricia Sprankle. You can keep track of the
>> Secretary's
>>
>> > manual tally of votes here:
>> [1][2][4]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>
>> > --
>> > --
>> > In Liberty,
>> > Caryn Ann Harlos
>> > Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>> (Alaska,
>> > Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah,
>> Wyoming,
>> > Washington)
>> > - [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>> > Communications Director, [3]Libertarian Party of
>> Colorado
>> > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>> > A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> > We defend your rights
>> > And oppose the use of force
>> > Taxation is theft
>> >
>> > References
>> >
>>
>> > 1. [3][5]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> > 2. mailto:[4]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> > 3. [5][6]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>
>> --
>> --
>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
>>
>> - [6]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>>
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> We defend your rights
>> And oppose the use of force
>> Taxation is theft
>>
>> References
>> 1. mailto:[7]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 2. [8]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 3. [9]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 4. mailto:[10]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> 5. [11]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 6. mailto:[12]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>
>> --
>>
>> --
>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
>> - [13]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> We defend your rights
>> And oppose the use of force
>> Taxation is theft
>>
>> References
>>
>> 1. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> 2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 3. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 4. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 5. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 6. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 7. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 8. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 9. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 10. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> 11. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 12. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> 13. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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