[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-11: ACKNOWLEDGE ELECTION OF JC
Elizabeth Van Horn
elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
Thu Jul 12 22:28:01 EDT 2018
Erin, NO ONE is ordering you around. Stop the insulting insinuations.
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Elizabeth Van Horn
On 2018-07-12 21:49, erin.adams at lp.org wrote:
> Say whatever youd like, It wont change a damn thing. If I was cool
> with being ordered around, Id likely be a member of the duopoly, Im
> not.Im fairly certain anyone who knows me will tell you that Im picky
> about who I let tell me what to do, you dont qualify.
>
> On 2018-07-11 19:09, Elizabeth Van Horn wrote:
>> Nonsense. In your mind, but not mine. My intent matters.
>>
>> Believe me, I have no problem stating my mind. IF I want to say, "move
>> on", I'll bloody well write that.
>>
>> ---
>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>> LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>>
>>
>> On 2018-07-11 20:02, erin.adams at lp.org wrote:
>>> Elizabeth,
>>> The implication is the same. Regardless, you and I will disagree on
>>> this, Thats fine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2018-07-11 18:50, Elizabeth Van Horn wrote:
>>>> Erin, I never told you to more on. Nor, did I "insist", that you
>>>> do.
>>>> What are you talking about? I suggested this:
>>>>
>>>> "If you have a complaint about a specific person, perhaps you could
>>>> take it to them off list, but to accuse wholesale those who have
>>>> discussed this issue, of "others" trying to silence people makes no
>>>> sense."
>>>>
>>>> Please go back and reread what I wrote. I don't appreciate you
>>>> making
>>>> up stuff that I never wrote. Sheesh, it's all right here in
>>>> writing.
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2018-07-11 19:43, erin.adams at lp.org wrote:
>>>>> I am glad we can agree on something. Just as you will continue to
>>>>> hold
>>>>> your beliefs and stance, I will do the same. The difference being
>>>>> that
>>>>> I am not telling you to move on even tho you insist that I do. I am
>>>>> happy we have found agreement
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2018-07-11 18:38, Elizabeth Van Horn wrote:
>>>>>> No one is "diminishing" your stance. I also stated my opinion.
>>>>>> Nor,
>>>>>> am I not going to be silent when I see unwarranted accusations
>>>>>> being
>>>>>> tossed around on this list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, that's my opinion. Also, the accusations that Caryn Ann has
>>>>>> made
>>>>>> about people being "silenced' is unwarranted. (Nor, am I the only
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> think this.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You don't have to agree, but neither do I have to be silent on
>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2018-07-11 19:25, erin.adams at lp.org wrote:
>>>>>>> Elizabeth,
>>>>>>> It is an overall "feeling", Im clearly not the only person
>>>>>>> "feeling"
>>>>>>> this, you dont have to agree, you dont have to acknowledge my
>>>>>>> stance
>>>>>>> nor my feeling, you dont get to diminish my stance either. It is
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> OPINION that there is a push to silence, like it or not, that IS
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> belief. I dont need to justify that, it simply is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2018-07-11 13:42, Elizabeth Van Horn wrote:
>>>>>>>> Erin, what others? I haven't seen anyone on this list try to
>>>>>>>> silence
>>>>>>>> others. Most people have discussed, I added the type of feedback
>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>> getting in region 3, and what options they're wanting. Others
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> done the same. If anything there's been pressure put on those
>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>> want to move-on, by saying that people will bring up the topic
>>>>>>>> constantly, and if a "yes" vote happens, that person immediately
>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>> gone after to change their vote.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have voted yet, as I'm still getting opinions from my region,
>>>>>>>> but I
>>>>>>>> can say that no one has shown an interest in rehashing the
>>>>>>>> At-Large
>>>>>>>> vote. For the JC, more seem inclined to just *not* have a JC,
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> have the body elect a new JC in 2020. (Some others wish to have
>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>> accept the top-seven vote-getters of the JC)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you have a complaint about a specific person, perhaps you
>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>> take it to them off list, but to accuse wholesale those who have
>>>>>>>> discussed this issue, of "others" trying to silence people makes
>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>> sense.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2018-07-11 10:50, erin.adams--- via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Mr. Bishop-Henchman,
>>>>>>>>> YOU may not be but others CERTAINLY are. The tone of many seems
>>>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>>> Shut up and get over it. Let me be clear that I have NO
>>>>>>>>> intention of
>>>>>>>>> doing that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2018-07-11 09:40, Joe Bishop-Henchman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Ms. Adams,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> By my count we have sent 400 emails to each other in a week.
>>>>>>>>>> Ms.
>>>>>>>>>> Harlos has sent 18 emails in the last twelve hours, more than
>>>>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>>>>> sent in total in a week. People may gripe about it but no one
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> actually being silenced.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm doing my best to respond to points being made, answering
>>>>>>>>>> questions
>>>>>>>>>> and respectfully if energetically countering arguments. Your
>>>>>>>>>> response
>>>>>>>>>> to me was that the proposal I've sponsored is "bullshit,"
>>>>>>>>>> "unacceptable," "gross," "vile," and "sickening." You then
>>>>>>>>>> complained
>>>>>>>>>> about the tone of the debate.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I would like to have a good working relationship with all of
>>>>>>>>>> you. On
>>>>>>>>>> Bylaws, if I was on the winning side of votes I made sure the
>>>>>>>>>> minority
>>>>>>>>>> got a fair shake at presenting their views. If I was on the
>>>>>>>>>> losing
>>>>>>>>>> side, I accepted it and did my best to make sure that what we
>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>> passed worked. And I never resorted to name-calling or
>>>>>>>>>> martyrdom. The
>>>>>>>>>> enemy isn't on this Committee. The enemy are the people out
>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>> passing warrantless wiretapping, locking refugee kids up in
>>>>>>>>>> cages,
>>>>>>>>>> bombing the world, and spending us into oblivion. I promise I
>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>> keep sight of that and will greatly respect all of you who do
>>>>>>>>>> also,
>>>>>>>>>> even if we occasionally disagree on how we will do it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> JBH
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-07-11 10:24, erin.adams--- via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> With all due respect Sam, that simply isnt true. It is not
>>>>>>>>>>> true that "
>>>>>>>>>>> There is nothing we can do about it
>>>>>>>>>>> at this point except live with it the best we can for two
>>>>>>>>>>> years." and
>>>>>>>>>>> honestly, Im sickened by the tactics Im seeing here from some
>>>>>>>>>>> in an
>>>>>>>>>>> attempt to FURTHER silence others. Its vile at best. Buckle
>>>>>>>>>>> up folks,
>>>>>>>>>>> if this is the tone that sets the way for THIS lnc,Many of
>>>>>>>>>>> you will
>>>>>>>>>>> hate me the end of this term. Alternate or not I WILL NOT be
>>>>>>>>>>> dismissed
>>>>>>>>>>> and silenced.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-07-09 20:09, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We all acknowledge that the LNC At Large and JC elections
>>>>>>>>>>>> went awry.
>>>>>>>>>>>> There is nothing we can do about it
>>>>>>>>>>>> at this point except live with it the best we can for two
>>>>>>>>>>>> years. We
>>>>>>>>>>>> will have a fix in place before the
>>>>>>>>>>>> convention convenes at Austin that can be passed by the
>>>>>>>>>>>> delegates and
>>>>>>>>>>>> made effective immediately.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> At the very least, take the discussion off the email ballot
>>>>>>>>>>>> thread
>>>>>>>>>>>> which is supposed to just be for recording
>>>>>>>>>>>> votes on the motion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam Goldstein
>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>>>>>>>> 317-850-0726 Cell
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-07-09 20:55, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh my goodness. I am sorry but this is beyond belief.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think our elections were handled wrongfully and I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to NOT
>>>>>>>>>>>>> yell it from the rooftops? What Party am I in again?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 6:52 PM, John Phillips via
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lnc-business
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Agreed, to a point. At some time, preaching to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> choir becomes
>>>>>>>>>>>>> counter productive. As noted earlier, we are all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> aware that it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sucked, and is a bad situation with no easy fix that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will make
>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone happy immediately. We all want to fix it,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and fix it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> yesterday. I even agree with all of Caryn Ann's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> points, and yours.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bring it up once a week. Absolutely. Don't bring it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> up 5 times a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> day. Stopping multiple times to read the same
>>>>>>>>>>>>> arguments takes away
>>>>>>>>>>>>> time from working on fixing it, and promoting the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> party in other
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ways. I love the passion, I really do, but beating us
>>>>>>>>>>>>> up continually
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on a point we 90% or more agree on IS
>>>>>>>>>>>>> counterproductive. Let's move
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on and FIX IT.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't shut up, but let's be productive, let's not let
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this crap
>>>>>>>>>>>>> happen again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> John Phillips
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cell 217-412-5973
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/9/2018 7:39 PM, Craig Bowden via Lnc-business
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking out for the membership and delegates is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing to be quiet
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about. I personally hope it is brought up at least
>>>>>>>>>>>>> once a week until
>>>>>>>>>>>>> solutions are in place to prevent it from ever
>>>>>>>>>>>>> happening again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craig Bowden
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Region 1 Alternate
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-07-09 18:33, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I respectfully decline.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 6:29 PM, Sam Goldstein
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[1][2]sam.goldstein at lp.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just shut up about this already!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam Goldstein
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 317-850-0726 Cell
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-07-09 18:34, Caryn Ann Harlos via
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lnc-business wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS: Before this vote ends, I am going to put
>>>>>>>>>>>>> something together
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to try
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to convince you that this is actually one of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> worst ways to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> solve.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My first issue - that of steering the delegates
>>>>>>>>>>>>> down that road
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at-large is unsolvable- at least unsolvable in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> any way that we
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ever do. If it were up to me, I would punt it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all back to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> delegates.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The second issue - of how to handle this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> situation with the JC
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>>>>>> we are trying to solve it now and I think we are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> solving it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong
>>>>>>>>>>>>> both
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ethically and procedurally.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And a remaining issue - is one where me and RONR
>>>>>>>>>>>>> come into
>>>>>>>>>>>>> conflict.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rules are tools. Just because a rule allows
>>>>>>>>>>>>> something doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mean
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is right, and this is probably why the first
>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue is sticking
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> craw so badly. It is fundamentally NOT RIGHT to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> change the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rules of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> election mid-way. There is a huge difference
>>>>>>>>>>>>> between majority
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> plurality and our candidates deserve to know as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it effects the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> campaign. We treated them and their efforts as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pawns, and it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> right.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know some of you are thinking, just shut up
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> already.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I am a hard-nose on some things, and this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is one of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> like it was with the eternal secrecy clause last
>>>>>>>>>>>>> term.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only way we are going to learn as an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization is if
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit painful. And in so doing we will model
>>>>>>>>>>>>> over-the-top
>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrity
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> our members rather than political expediency.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:36 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[1][2][3]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ==I get the anger. I'm angry. When we ultimately
>>>>>>>>>>>>> do get the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> state-by-state tallies, I'm sure we'll find that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hundreds of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> delegates
>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't even vote in the two races because we put
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them off so
>>>>>>>>>>>>> long.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the 2016 convention, whole states didn't cast
>>>>>>>>>>>>> votes in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> At-Large
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> JC races. Them's the rules - elections are won
>>>>>>>>>>>>> by those who
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stay and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> vote - but oh my did we make it hard. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>> combination of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> voting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> methodology, tabulation method, and scheduling
>>>>>>>>>>>>> left us in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bad
>>>>>>>>>>>>> place.===
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean we ran in front of a racing car and now
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are surprised
>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ran over?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But it is more than that. The delegates were
>>>>>>>>>>>>> led to make a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> decision
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a certain direction. There WERE other options.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whether or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not one
>>>>>>>>>>>>> agrees with the voting methodology, it is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> methodology and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>>>>>>>> intent was to use approval voting to show
>>>>>>>>>>>>> approval and we
>>>>>>>>>>>>> turned it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> its head. Why weren't the delegates given other
>>>>>>>>>>>>> options?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ==All that said, I don't want to just be angry
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and complain.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As far
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> actions that can be taken, this resolution is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the most
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasonable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Other possibilities - revotes or mail votes of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all Party
>>>>>>>>>>>>> members or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>>>>>>> filling the JC seats or setting multiple JCs in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> motion - are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> violative of the Bylaws and Rules.==
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are they all? I don't think so. And I do think
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my very real
>>>>>>>>>>>>> complaint
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of how the delegates were steered in a certain
>>>>>>>>>>>>> direction is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignored at best (or maligned at worst).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ==The contrary view admittedly rests on a thread
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of legality:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> delegates expressed their wish to take the top
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at-large
>>>>>>>>>>>>> candidates
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Bylaws say the same applies for the JC.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's also no
>>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mind that had they been asked they would have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> done the same
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> JC.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A room of several hundred Libertarians were not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> coerced into
>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - they went with what Nick suggested because
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's what they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> do. He just told them how.===
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that is where the dispute is. Most of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> people there
>>>>>>>>>>>>> trusted
>>>>>>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (I use us as Nick was acting as the spokesperson
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the LNC
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't about Nick ultimately) not to tell them
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>>>>>>> were presented with two choices in which they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> were led down a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> particular path. You are an attorney Joe, you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> know exactly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting at here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you really think that if they were offered a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> majority
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rising vote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the spot to choose between options they would
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not have taken
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>>>>> never ocurred to most of them that there WERE
>>>>>>>>>>>>> any other
>>>>>>>>>>>>> options. It
>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't immediately occur to me and I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>> well-versed in this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stinks. If a government acted this way we would
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> lathered up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Joe
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bishop-Henchman
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[2][3][4]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get the anger. I'm angry. When we ultimately
>>>>>>>>>>>>> do get the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> state-by-state tallies, I'm sure we'll find
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that hundreds of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> delegates didn't even vote in the two races
>>>>>>>>>>>>> because we put
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>>>> off
>>>>>>>>>>>>> so long. In the 2016 convention, whole states
>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't cast
>>>>>>>>>>>>> votes in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the At-Large and JC races. Them's the rules -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> elections are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> won by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> those who stay and vote - but oh my did we
>>>>>>>>>>>>> make it hard. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>> combination of voting methodology, tabulation
>>>>>>>>>>>>> method, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> scheduling
>>>>>>>>>>>>> left us in a bad place.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> All that said, I don't want to just be angry
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and complain.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As far
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> actions that can be taken, this resolution is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the most
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasonable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Other possibilities - revotes or mail votes of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all Party
>>>>>>>>>>>>> members
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> us filling the JC seats or setting multiple
>>>>>>>>>>>>> JCs in motion -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>>>> more violative of the Bylaws and Rules.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not dispute that one can reasonably argue
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that every JC
>>>>>>>>>>>>> candidate was disapproved and that it should
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sit empty until
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2022.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The contrary view admittedly rests on a thread
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of legality:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> delegates expressed their wish to take the top
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at-large
>>>>>>>>>>>>> candidates
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the Bylaws say the same applies for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> JC. There's also
>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt in my mind that had they been asked they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> done the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> same for the JC. A room of several hundred
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarians were
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> coerced into doing that - they went with what
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nick suggested
>>>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's what they wanted to do. He just told
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them how. They
>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> want the LNC fighting over who would fill the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> seats if they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>> left vacant.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I doubt I'm going to convince you but I did
>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to write
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> emphasize that at least I am not sanguine or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sweeping
>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>> blithely under the rug. I expect rethinking
>>>>>>>>>>>>> how we do
>>>>>>>>>>>>> elections
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be a big priority for many of us.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> JBH
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-07-09 16:46, Caryn Ann Harlos via
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lnc-business
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suspension of the rules has to be specific and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is no
>>>>>>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fact that we used the number 5 over and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> over.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is taking things to an even deeper
>>>>>>>>>>>>> level of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> improper. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> object to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the whole at-Large process- I don’t think
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the delegates
>>>>>>>>>>>>> made an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> independent choice and now to just infer
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this upon that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is two
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bridges
>>>>>>>>>>>>> too far.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a big screwup and I won’t be part
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of sweeping it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> under
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rug.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It alarms me to no end how blithely the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole situation
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>>> taken.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are people looking at us and seeing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> government we wish to reform.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There was a controversial election and at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> least one state
>>>>>>>>>>>>> chair
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> candidate has been asking for the state by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> state rallies
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>>> frame given him.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The whole thing was an affront to people
>>>>>>>>>>>>> expecting an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> entirely
>>>>>>>>>>>>> different thing when they ran. I will not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be sanguine
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 2:20 PM Whitney
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bilyeu
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[1][3][4][5]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This point did come up immediately after
>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjournment,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nick
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> still at the mic. I don't recall who
>>>>>>>>>>>>> brought it up, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> statement
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was made that it would follow the same
>>>>>>>>>>>>> procedure as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> At-Large
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> point, since we were no longer in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> session.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No one raised the question prior to that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whitney Bilyeu
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Region 7 Representative
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:07 PM, Caryn Ann
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Harlos via
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lnc-business
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[2][4][5][6]lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joshua they were not given a choice
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on this. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>> JC
>>>>>>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>>>>>>> came
>>>>>>>>>>>>> up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 11:47 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[1][3][5][6][7]joshua.smith at lp.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I vote yes. Given that the delegates
>>>>>>>>>>>>> were given the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> convention
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just a few short days ago, I believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>> we should
>>>>>>>>>>>>> respect
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> decision.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joshua D. Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-07-07 22:23, Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>>>>>>> via
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lnc-business
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > We have an electronic mail ballot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Votes are due
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LNC-Business
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > list by July 14, 2018 at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11:59:59pm Pacific
>>>>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Co-Sponsors:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Bishop-Henchman, Goldstein,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hagan, Merced, Van
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Horn
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Motion:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Move
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > the Libertarian National
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Committee acknowledge
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> election of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > following to the Judicial
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Committee for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> four-year
>>>>>>>>>>>>> term:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> D.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Robinson, Chuck Moulton, Darryl
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perry, Ruth
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bennett,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geoff
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neale,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Jim
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Turney, and Tricia Sprankle. You
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can keep track
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Secretary's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > manual tally of votes here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1][2][4][6][7][8]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > In Liberty,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Region 1 Representative,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian
>>>>>>>>>>>>> National
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Committee
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Alaska,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kansas, Montana,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Utah,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wyoming,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Washington)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > - [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Communications Director,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3]Libertarian
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Party of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colorado
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Chair, LP Historical
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Preservation Committee
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > A haiku to the Statement of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Principles:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > We defend your rights
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > And oppose the use of force
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Taxation is theft
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > References
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > 1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3][5][7][8][9]https://tinyurl.co
>>>>>>>>>>>>> m/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > 2.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailto:[4]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > 3.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [5][6][8][9][10]http://www.lpcolor
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian
>>>>>>>>>>>>> National
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Committee
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Secretary
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - [6]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Committee -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LPedia at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Principles:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>>>>>>>>>> References
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailto:[7][9][10][11]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [8][10][11][12]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [9][11][12][13]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailto:[10]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [11][12][13][14]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailto:[12]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian
>>>>>>>>>>>>> National Committee
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Secretary
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - [13]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Committee -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LPedia at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>>>>>>>>>> References
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailto:[13][14][15]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailto:[14][15][16]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. mailto:[15][16][17]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [16][17][18]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [17][18][19]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. [18][19][20]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7. mailto:[19][20][21]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [20][21][22]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [21][22][23]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10. mailto:[22]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11. [23][23][24]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12. mailto:[24]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 13. mailto:[25]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> JBH
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe Bishop-Henchman
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LNC Member (At-Large)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [26][24][25]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [27][25][26]www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Committee
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Secretary
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - [28]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LPedia at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Committee
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Secretary
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - [29]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LPedia at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>>>>>>>>>> References
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. mailto:[26][27]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. mailto:[27][28]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. mailto:[28][29]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. mailto:[29][30]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. mailto:[30][31]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. [31][32]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7. [32][33]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8. [33][34]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9. mailto:[34][35]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10. [35][36]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11. [36][37]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12. [37][38]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 13. mailto:[38][39]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 14. mailto:[39][40]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 15. mailto:[40][41]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 16. [41][42]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 17. [42][43]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 18. [43][44]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 19. mailto:[44][45]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20. [45][46]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 21. [46][47]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 22. mailto:[47]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 23. [48][48]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 24. mailto:[49]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25. mailto:[50]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 26. mailto:[51][49]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 27.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [52][50]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 28. mailto:[53]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 29. mailto:[54]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Committee Secretary
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - [55]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LPedia at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>>>>>>>>>> References
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. mailto:[51]sam.goldstein at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. mailto:[52]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. mailto:[53]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. mailto:[54]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. mailto:[55]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. mailto:[56]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7. [57]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8. [58]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9. [59]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10. mailto:[60]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11. [61]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12. [62]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 13. [63]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 14. mailto:[64]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 15. mailto:[65]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 16. mailto:[66]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 17. [67]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 18. [68]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 19. [69]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20. mailto:[70]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 21. [71]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 22. [72]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 23. [73]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 24. mailto:[74]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [75]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 26. mailto:[76]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 27. mailto:[77]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 28. mailto:[78]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 29. mailto:[79]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 30. mailto:[80]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 31. [81]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 32. [82]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 33. [83]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 34. mailto:[84]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 35. [85]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 36. [86]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 37. [87]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 38. mailto:[88]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 39. mailto:[89]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 40. mailto:[90]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 41. [91]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 42. [92]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 43. [93]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 44. mailto:[94]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 45. [95]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 46. [96]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 47. mailto:[97]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 48. [98]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 49. mailto:[99]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 50. mailto:[100]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 51. mailto:[101]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 52.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [102]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 53. mailto:[103]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 54. mailto:[104]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 55. mailto:[105]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Secretary
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - [106]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LPedia at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> References
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. mailto:sam.goldstein at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 13. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 14. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 15. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 16. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 17. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 18. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 19. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 21. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 22. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 23. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 24. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 26. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 27. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 28. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 29. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 30. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 31. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 32. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 33. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 34. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 35. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 36. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 37. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 38. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 39. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 40. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 41. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 42. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 43. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 44. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 45. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 46. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 47. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 48. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 49. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 50. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 51. mailto:sam.goldstein at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 52. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 53. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 54. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 55. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 56. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 57. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 58. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 59. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 60. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 61. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 62. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 63. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 64. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 65. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 66. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 67. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 68. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 69. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 70. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 71. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 72. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 73. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 74. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 75. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 76. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 77. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 78. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 79. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 80. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 81. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 82. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 83. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 84. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 85. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 86. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 87. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 88. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 89. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 90. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 91. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 92. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 93. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 94. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 95. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 96. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 97. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 98. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 99. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 101. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 102. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 103. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 104. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 105. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 106. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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