[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-12: INDEPENDENT AUDIT OF AT-LARGE VOTE RESULTS
Alicia Mattson
alicia.mattson at lp.org
Sat Jul 14 02:35:40 EDT 2018
The generous interpretation still needs to fit within the confines of what
can reasonably be called 7 days. We could be even more generous and say
that it starts on Eastern time but ends on Hawaiian time, but that doesn't
fit within the logic of what I wrote about how to interpret x "days". That
was about whether it means to the precise minute that the motion was sent
out, or whether it's a calendar day, etc.
-Alicia
On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 8:20 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
wrote:
> I always understood it to be given the benefit of the doubt on both ends
> per your email to the list in 2016 to interpret things the most generous
> way possible. That is my interpretation and I ask the Chair’s advice on
> this.
>
> I have been calculating the beginning date as Mountain and end as Pacific
> to give the most generous interpretation. This only comes into play in the
> two hour window around midnight which though is a typical work time for me.
>
> -Caryn Ann
>
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 9:03 PM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
>> Okay, this is a time zone issue, but shouldn't this email ballot end on
>> July 18 instead of July 19?
>> If the end date is for the Pacific time zone, shouldn't the start date
>> also be considered as the Pacific time zone? When this was sent, it
>> was July 12 in Colorado, but it was still July 11 in Pacific time...
>> Then 7 days would make it end a second before midnight on July 18
>> instead. With it starting on July 11 Pacific but ending on July 19
>> Pacific, we're spanning 8 days rather than 7 days.
>> -Alicia
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 11:53 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
>> <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the
>> LNC-Business
>> list by July 19, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors:
>> Bowden,
>> Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson
>> Motion: Move that the LNC would have an audit of the At Large
>> ballots
>> done by two independent auditors appointed by the Chair, ie
>> someone not
>> in the race. You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally
>> of
>> votes here: [1][2]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> --
>> --
>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
>> - [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> We defend your rights
>> And oppose the use of force
>> Taxation is theft
>> References
>> 1. [3]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 2. mailto:[4]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>
>> References
>>
>> 1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 2. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 3. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 4. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>
> --
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> *We defend your rights*
> *And oppose the use of force*
> *Taxation is theft*
>
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The generous interpretation still needs to fit within the confines of
what can reasonably be called 7 days. We could be even more generous
and say that it starts on Eastern time but ends on Hawaiian time, but
that doesn't fit within the logic of what I wrote about how to
interpret x "days". That was about whether it means to the precise
minute that the motion was sent out, or whether it's a calendar day,
etc.
-Alicia
On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 8:20 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
<[1]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
I always understood it to be given the benefit of the doubt on both
ends per your email to the list in 2016 to interpret things the most
generous way possible. That is my interpretation and I ask the Chair’s
advice on this.
I have been calculating the beginning date as Mountain and end as
Pacific to give the most generous interpretation. This only comes into
play in the two hour window around midnight which though is a typical
work time for me.
-Caryn Ann
On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 9:03 PM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business
<[2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
Okay, this is a time zone issue, but shouldn't this email ballot
end on
July 18 instead of July 19?
If the end date is for the Pacific time zone, shouldn't the start
date
also be considered as the Pacific time zone? When this was sent,
it
was July 12 in Colorado, but it was still July 11 in Pacific
time...
Then 7 days would make it end a second before midnight on July 18
instead. With it starting on July 11 Pacific but ending on July
19
Pacific, we're spanning 8 days rather than 7 days.
-Alicia
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 11:53 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via
Lnc-business
<[1][3]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the
LNC-Business
list by July 19, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors:
Bowden,
Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson
Motion: Move that the LNC would have an audit of the At
Large
ballots
done by two independent auditors appointed by the Chair, ie
someone not
in the race. You can keep track of the Secretary's manual
tally
of
votes here: [1][2][4]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
--
--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
Secretary
- [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
References
1. [3][5]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
2. mailto:[4]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
References
1. mailto:[6]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
2. [7]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
3. [8]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
4. mailto:[9]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
--
--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
- [10]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
References
1. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
3. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
4. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
5. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
6. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
7. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
8. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
9. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
10. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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