[Lnc-business] Elections overhaul - request for input

Joe Bishop-Henchman joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
Sat Jul 14 09:38:36 EDT 2018


That did end up garbled. I think I meant, "Unless everyone feels 
represented at the table, it ain't happening."

JBH


On 2018-07-13 17:23, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> Yes I would like to see it as I wasn't included in this before.
> 
> And I think you nailed the questions spot on though I am not sure what
> this means:   Additionally, I have a concern that unless feels
> represented at at this table, it ain't happening.
> 
> And I really agree on limiting LNC to ex officio seats and limiting
> even those to Chair, Secretary, previous Secretary, and one more.
> 
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 3:13 PM, Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business
> <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> 
>> I've continued to stare at the puzzle of our Convention elections
>> problem and have listened to quite a few (but hardly a dent in all)
>> opinions shared with me on what we should about it. I'm sure you are
>> all too. Something that's jumping out to me is that it's almost
>> three problems in one: a voting system problem (majority vs
>> plurality, approval vs ranked choice, etc.), a speed problem
>> (balloting, tabulation, and verification) that may need a
>> technological solution, and a bylaws/rules problem (as they may need
>> to be updated and this Committee is not under the LNC). But it's
>> hard to solve any one of those separately from the other two.
>> 
>> We will also have a too many chefs problem. The Convention Oversight
>> Committee will think it's their job because its their budget and
>> schedule. The IT Committee will think it's their job since part of
>> the solution will probably be technological in nature. The Bylaws
>> Committee will think it's their job because it will involve
>> rethinking our election method and rewriting our election
>> procedures. The LNC Chair and the Secretary will think it's their
>> job because they have to staff it and run it. The LNC as a whole
>> will think its their job because we always think it's our job. The
>> state chairs will think it's their job because the states are the
>> ones who count the votes and because they don't trust the LNC will
>> get the job done. Individual party members will think it's their job
>> because they have actual answers for what broke and how to fix it.
>> And so forth. Additionally, I have a concern that unless feels
>> represented at at this table, it ain't happening.
>> 
>> They're all correct. Do we let them all do their thing and see what
>> emerges? Or do we need to develop some kind of structure? How do we
>> move forward?
>> 
>> A week or so ago I sent around a skeleton of a proposal to set up a
>> small LNC committee to essentially come up with an answer and report
>> back. I got a lot of good feedback, suggesting that if it happen it
>> should be larger, separate from the LNC, have seats named by the
>> state chairs, limit LNC folks to ex-officio seats, have set
>> deadlines for incremental steps, and rely heavily on the expertise
>> of many of our members and state parties. And of course, there's a
>> desire to audit the past results to get a better understanding of
>> what went wrong. (Ms. Mattson did such a write-up of the 2016
>> Convention balloting, and I'll reaffirm I am open to seeing
>> something similar for the 2018 balloting but for all the races.)
>> 
>> I'm continuing to toy around with my proposal - draft I have now is
>> a 15-person special committee that would take about a year to
>> complete its work in five phases. Happy to share it if anyone is
>> interested, but especially interested in your thoughts about some of
>> the questions I'm wrestling with.
>> 
>> Have a good weekend everyone!
>> 
>> --
>> JBH
>> 
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>> Joe Bishop-Henchman
>> LNC Member (At-Large)
>> joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837 [1]
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> CARYN ANN HARLOS
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