[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-11: ACKNOWLEDGE ELECTION OF JC
Alicia Mattson
alicia.mattson at lp.org
Sun Jul 15 19:27:52 EDT 2018
I realize that in the other thread Dr. Olsen requested that you update the
tally sheet to show that he "would have" voted no, but if you notice his
words carefully, he also said that the tally sheet shows how other
alternates "would have" voted. He's just trying to say that if his vote
had counted, it was a no.
What he really means is that he DID vote no, and it can be found here:
http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business/2018/013588.html
It wouldn't be appropriate to record in LNC records how someone says after
the fact that they would have voted had they participated, but since he
actually did it, his should be consistently treated in the tally sheet with
the other alternates who also did vote.
-Alicia
On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 8:16 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> Voting has ENDED for the email ballot 2018:11 ACKNOWLEDGE ELECTION OF
> JC Voting "aye": Bishop-Henchman, Goldstein, Hewitt, Phillips, Redpath,
> Smith Voting "nay": Bilyeu, Hagan, Harlos, Mattson, Merced, Nekhaila,
> Van Horn Express Abstention: Lark, Longstreth With a final vote tally
> of 6-7-2, the motion FAILS. Note: Lyons and Sarwark did not vote.
>
> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 1:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
> <[1]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>
> I really apologize but I am not getting email notifications of this
> thread, and this one alone. It goes automatically to my read box...
> Alicia, the two are tired together. The delegates didn't purposefully
> decide they didn't want a JC - they were influenced into thinking that
> one course of action took care of all outstanding business. But it
> didn't. They trusted the Chair on that, and Nick is only human and
> made a mistake. But this is why we have to be aware of the trust and
> be extra careful not to lead people down paths - with trust comes more
> responsibility.
> This is why I advocate an equitable solution. If the delegates
> purposefully decided no JC, I wouldn't like it, but I would accept it.
> But they didn't, and I think we all know that.
> -Caryn Ann
>
> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 9:24 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn
> <[2]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>
> I vote NO.
> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
> LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
> Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
> LP Social Media Process Review Committee
> Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
> [3]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
> On 2018-07-08 01:23, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>
> We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business
> list by July 14, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors:
> Bishop-Henchman, Goldstein, Hagan, Merced, Van Horn Motion: Move
> that
> the Libertarian National Committee acknowledge the election of
> the
> following to the Judicial Committee for a four-year term: D.
> Frank
> Robinson, Chuck Moulton, Darryl Perry, Ruth Bennett, Geoff Neale,
> Jim
> Turney, and Tricia Sprankle. You can keep track of the
> Secretary's
> manual tally of votes here: [1][4]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> --
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
> Washington)
> - [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
> Communications Director, [3]Libertarian Party of Colorado
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
> References
> 1. [5]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 2. mailto:[6]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> 3. [7]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>
> --
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
> - [8]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
>
> --
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
> - [9]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
> 2. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> 3. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
> 4. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 5. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 6. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> 7. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> 8. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> 9. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>
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I realize that in the other thread Dr. Olsen requested that you update
the tally sheet to show that he "would have" voted no, but if you
notice his words carefully, he also said that the tally sheet shows how
other alternates "would have" voted. He's just trying to say that if
his vote had counted, it was a no.
What he really means is that he DID vote no, and it can be found here:
[1]http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business/2018/013588.html
It wouldn't be appropriate to record in LNC records how someone says
after the fact that they would have voted had they participated, but
since he actually did it, his should be consistently treated in the
tally sheet with the other alternates who also did vote.
-Alicia
On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 8:16 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
<[2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
Voting has ENDED for the email ballot 2018:11 ACKNOWLEDGE
ELECTION OF
JC Voting "aye": Bishop-Henchman, Goldstein, Hewitt, Phillips,
Redpath,
Smith Voting "nay": Bilyeu, Hagan, Harlos, Mattson, Merced,
Nekhaila,
Van Horn Express Abstention: Lark, Longstreth With a final vote
tally
of 6-7-2, the motion FAILS. Note: Lyons and Sarwark did not vote.
On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 1:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
<[1][3]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
I really apologize but I am not getting email notifications of
this
thread, and this one alone. It goes automatically to my read
box...
Alicia, the two are tired together. The delegates didn't
purposefully
decide they didn't want a JC - they were influenced into thinking
that
one course of action took care of all outstanding business. But
it
didn't. They trusted the Chair on that, and Nick is only human
and
made a mistake. But this is why we have to be aware of the trust
and
be extra careful not to lead people down paths - with trust comes
more
responsibility.
This is why I advocate an equitable solution. If the delegates
purposefully decided no JC, I wouldn't like it, but I would
accept it.
But they didn't, and I think we all know that.
-Caryn Ann
On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 9:24 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn
<[2][4]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
I vote NO.
---
Elizabeth Van Horn
LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
LP Social Media Process Review Committee
Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
[3][5]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
On 2018-07-08 01:23, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the
LNC-Business
list by July 14, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors:
Bishop-Henchman, Goldstein, Hagan, Merced, Van Horn Motion:
Move
that
the Libertarian National Committee acknowledge the election
of
the
following to the Judicial Committee for a four-year term: D.
Frank
Robinson, Chuck Moulton, Darryl Perry, Ruth Bennett, Geoff
Neale,
Jim
Turney, and Tricia Sprankle. You can keep track of the
Secretary's
manual tally of votes here: [1][4][6]https://tinyurl.com/
lncvoting
--
--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
(Alaska,
Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
Washington)
- [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
Communications Director, [3]Libertarian Party of Colorado
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
References
1. [5][7]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
2. mailto:[6]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
3. [7][8]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
--
--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
- [8]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
--
--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
- [9]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
References
1. mailto:[9]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
2. mailto:[10]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
3. [11]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
4. [12]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
5. [13]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
6. mailto:[14]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
7. [15]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
8. mailto:[16]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
9. mailto:[17]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
References
1. http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business/2018/013588.html
2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
3. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
4. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
5. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
6. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
7. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
8. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
9. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
10. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
11. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
12. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
13. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
14. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
15. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
16. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
17. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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