[Lnc-business] Email Ballots

Caryn Ann Harlos caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Tue Jul 17 00:04:44 EDT 2018


I am also an automatic sponsor for e-meetings.  Personally I think we
should be meeting every month.  How is that state affiliate boards meet
every month (at least the larger ones) and we think the national party is a
once a quarter job.  I don't get it.

-Caryn Ann

On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 9:52 PM, Richard Longstreth <
richard.longstreth at lp.org> wrote:

> I forgot about the emeeting rule. Go ahead and slate me as a cosponsor for
> any call for an electronic meeting. I'll formally jump on as they come up.
> I favor e meetings over email hash outs any day.
>
> RTL
>
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018, 19:56 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
>>    Agree with everyone.
>>    Lord knows I love emails.  And don't worry about me keeping up
>>    secretarial-wise - but some things should wait for meeting to be
>>    properly hashed out.
>>    And..... remember..... five of us can band together to call for an
>>    emeeting.  Frankly I think it is almost ridiculous that we meet only
>>    once a quarter.
>>    -Caryn Ann
>>
>>    On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 8:07 PM, brent.olsen--- via Lnc-business
>>    <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>>      Agreed!  100%!
>>      In Liberty,
>>      K. Brent Olsen
>>      Alterate, Region 4
>>
>>    On 2018-07-16 18:51, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:
>>
>>      I hear everyone but I have to pointout that we are the national
>>      board
>>         for the third largest political party in the US. That said, we
>>      only
>>         meet once a quarter. Business cannot realistically be done only
>>      three
>>         months if we want to see significant growth and empowerment of
>>         individuals, affiliates, and candidates.
>>         I say, keep the votes coming. If any member feels that they have
>>         something we need to move forward with, I don't want them
>>      discouraged
>>         from an email ballot. That is what the co-sponsorship requirement
>>      is
>>         all about.
>>         RTL
>>         On Sun, Jul 15, 2018, 07:50 Whitney Bilyeu via Lnc-business
>>         <[1][2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>              Hear! Hear!
>>              Whitney Bilyeu
>>              Region 7 Rep
>>              On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 9:32 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via
>>           Lnc-business
>>              <[1][2][3]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>                   It also allows for amendments if we wait.  Email
>>      ballots
>>           really
>>                should
>>                   be things that just cannot wait or are really really
>>      simple.
>>                   -Caryn Ann
>>                 On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 7:53 AM, Sam Goldstein via
>>           Lnc-business
>>                 <[1][2][3][4]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>                      This may sound like lecturing on my part, but a word
>>      of
>>           advice
>>              or
>>                      pleading to new LNC members.  I understand your
>>           enthusiasm for
>>                   getting
>>                      things done but, for the most part, motions proposed
>>      and
>>              debated
>>                   by
>>                      email ballot should be few and far between.  Please
>>           consider if
>>                   what
>>                      youare proposing can be better done in about a 1/2
>>      hour
>>           at an
>>              in
>>                   person
>>                      meeting and also the urgency of the need for your
>>           proposal.
>>                      At this time I think we are voting on at least two
>>           motions with
>>                   another
>>                      1/2 dozen in various stages of co-sponsoring or
>>           revision.  My
>>              LNC
>>                   email
>>                      has so many threads that I can't keep them straight
>>      and
>>           people
>>                   are
>>                      continuing discussion/argument on motions that are
>>           already in
>>              the
>>                      voting stage.
>>                      If you have interest in some matter that you think
>>      is
>>           important
>>                   to the
>>                      future of the party, please form a working group for
>>           discussion
>>                   off the
>>                      main LNC list then have a well thought out motion in
>>      hand
>>           for
>>              the
>>                   next
>>                      LNC meeting.  Count noses before the meeting to see
>>      what
>>           kind
>>              of
>>                      reception your motion will get.  Seek advice from
>>      those
>>           not on
>>                   the LNC
>>                      to determine acceptance by the membership if
>>      appropriate.
>>                      It may also be presumptive on my party, but keeping
>>      our
>>              Secretary
>>                      halfway sane and not overwhelmed with added work
>>      while
>>           she is
>>                   adjusting
>>                      may not be a bad idea.
>>                      Of course, as Libertarians, you will do as you want
>>      but I
>>           do
>>              ask
>>                   for
>>                      your consideration!
>>                      Live Free,
>>                      --
>>                      Sam Goldstein
>>                      Libertarian National Committee
>>                      317-850-0726 Cell
>>                   --
>>                   --
>>                   In Liberty,
>>                   Caryn Ann Harlos
>>                   Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
>>           Secretary
>>                   - [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>>                   Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
>>      LPedia at LP.org
>>                   A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>                   We defend your rights
>>                   And oppose the use of force
>>                   Taxation is theft
>>                References
>>                   1. mailto:[3][4][5]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>                   2. mailto:[4]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>           References
>>              1. mailto:[5][6]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>              2. mailto:[6][7]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>              3. mailto:[7][8]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>              4. mailto:[8]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>         --
>>         Richard Longstreth
>>         Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA,
>>      WY)
>>         Libertarian National Committee
>>         [9][9]richard.longstreth at lp.org
>>         931.538.9300
>>      References
>>         1. mailto:[10]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>         2. mailto:[11]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>         3. mailto:[12]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>         4. mailto:[13]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>         5. mailto:[14]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>         6. mailto:[15]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>         7. mailto:[16]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>         8. mailto:[17]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>         9. mailto:[18]richard.longstreth at lp.org
>>
>>    --
>>    --
>>    In Liberty,
>>    Caryn Ann Harlos
>>    Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
>>    - [19]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>>    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>    We defend your rights
>>    And oppose the use of force
>>    Taxation is theft
>>
>> References
>>
>>    1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>    2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>    3. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>    4. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>    5. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>    6. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>    7. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>    8. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>    9. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
>>   10. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>   11. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>   12. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>   13. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>   14. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>   15. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>   16. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>   17. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>   18. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
>>   19. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>
> --
> Richard Longstreth
> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY)
> Libertarian National Committee
> richard.longstreth at lp.org
> 931.538.9300
>



-- 
-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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   I am also an automatic sponsor for e-meetings.  Personally I think we
   should be meeting every month.  How is that state affiliate boards meet
   every month (at least the larger ones) and we think the national party
   is a once a quarter job.  I don't get it.
   -Caryn Ann

   On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 9:52 PM, Richard Longstreth
   <[1]richard.longstreth at lp.org> wrote:

     I forgot about the emeeting rule. Go ahead and slate me as a
     cosponsor for any call for an electronic meeting. I'll formally jump
     on as they come up. I favor e meetings over email hash outs any day.

   RTL
   On Mon, Jul 16, 2018, 19:56 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
   <[2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

        Agree with everyone.
        Lord knows I love emails.  And don't worry about me keeping up
        secretarial-wise - but some things should wait for meeting to be
        properly hashed out.
        And..... remember..... five of us can band together to call for
     an
        emeeting.  Frankly I think it is almost ridiculous that we meet
     only
        once a quarter.
        -Caryn Ann
        On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 8:07 PM, brent.olsen--- via Lnc-business
        <[1][3]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
          Agreed!  100%!
          In Liberty,
          K. Brent Olsen
          Alterate, Region 4
        On 2018-07-16 18:51, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:
          I hear everyone but I have to pointout that we are the national
          board
             for the third largest political party in the US. That said,
     we
          only
             meet once a quarter. Business cannot realistically be done
     only
          three
             months if we want to see significant growth and empowerment
     of
             individuals, affiliates, and candidates.
             I say, keep the votes coming. If any member feels that they
     have
             something we need to move forward with, I don't want them
          discouraged
             from an email ballot. That is what the co-sponsorship
     requirement
          is
             all about.
             RTL
             On Sun, Jul 15, 2018, 07:50 Whitney Bilyeu via Lnc-business
             <[1][2][4]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
                  Hear! Hear!
                  Whitney Bilyeu
                  Region 7 Rep
                  On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 9:32 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via
               Lnc-business
                  <[1][2][3][5]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
                       It also allows for amendments if we wait.  Email
          ballots
               really
                    should
                       be things that just cannot wait or are really
     really
          simple.
                       -Caryn Ann
                     On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 7:53 AM, Sam Goldstein via
               Lnc-business

                   <[1][2][3][4][6]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
                        This may sound like lecturing on my part, but a
   word
        of
             advice
                or
                        pleading to new LNC members.  I understand your
             enthusiasm for
                     getting
                        things done but, for the most part, motions
   proposed
        and
                debated
                     by
                        email ballot should be few and far between.
   Please
             consider if
                     what
                        youare proposing can be better done in about a 1/2
        hour
             at an
                in
                     person
                        meeting and also the urgency of the need for your
             proposal.
                        At this time I think we are voting on at least two
             motions with
                     another
                        1/2 dozen in various stages of co-sponsoring or
             revision.  My
                LNC
                     email
                        has so many threads that I can't keep them
   straight
        and
             people
                     are
                        continuing discussion/argument on motions that are
             already in
                the
                        voting stage.
                        If you have interest in some matter that you think
        is
             important
                     to the
                        future of the party, please form a working group
   for
             discussion
                     off the
                        main LNC list then have a well thought out motion
   in
        hand
             for
                the
                     next
                        LNC meeting.  Count noses before the meeting to
   see
        what
             kind
                of
                        reception your motion will get.  Seek advice from
        those
             not on
                     the LNC
                        to determine acceptance by the membership if
        appropriate.
                        It may also be presumptive on my party, but
   keeping
        our
                Secretary
                        halfway sane and not overwhelmed with added work
        while
             she is
                     adjusting
                        may not be a bad idea.
                        Of course, as Libertarians, you will do as you
   want
        but I
             do
                ask
                     for
                        your consideration!
                        Live Free,
                        --
                        Sam Goldstein
                        Libertarian National Committee
                        317-850-0726 Cell
                     --
                     --
                     In Liberty,
                     Caryn Ann Harlos
                     Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
             Secretary
                     - [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
                     Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
        LPedia at LP.org
                     A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
                     We defend your rights
                     And oppose the use of force
                     Taxation is theft
                  References

                       1. mailto:[3][4][5][7]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
                       2. mailto:[4]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
               References
                  1. mailto:[5][6][8]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
                  2. mailto:[6][7][9]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
                  3. mailto:[7][8][10]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
                  4. mailto:[8]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
             --
             Richard Longstreth
             Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT,
     WA,
          WY)
             Libertarian National Committee
             [9][9][11]richard.longstreth at lp.org
             931.538.9300
          References
             1. mailto:[10][12]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
             2. mailto:[11][13]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
             3. mailto:[12][14]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
             4. mailto:[13][15]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
             5. mailto:[14][16]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
             6. mailto:[15][17]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
             7. mailto:[16][18]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
             8. mailto:[17]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
             9. mailto:[18][19]richard.longstreth at lp.org
        --
        --
        In Liberty,
        Caryn Ann Harlos
        Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
        - [19]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
        Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
        A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
        We defend your rights
        And oppose the use of force
        Taxation is theft
     References
        1. mailto:[20]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
        2. mailto:[21]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
        3. mailto:[22]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
        4. mailto:[23]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
        5. mailto:[24]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
        6. mailto:[25]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
        7. mailto:[26]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
        8. mailto:[27]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
        9. mailto:[28]richard.longstreth at lp.org
       10. mailto:[29]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
       11. mailto:[30]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
       12. mailto:[31]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
       13. mailto:[32]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
       14. mailto:[33]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
       15. mailto:[34]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
       16. mailto:[35]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
       17. mailto:[36]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
       18. mailto:[37]richard.longstreth at lp.org
       19. mailto:[38]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org

     --

   Richard Longstreth
   Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY)
   Libertarian National Committee
   [39]richard.longstreth at lp.org
   931.538.9300

   --
   --
   In Liberty,
   Caryn Ann Harlos
   Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
   - [40]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
   Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
   A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
   We defend your rights
   And oppose the use of force
   Taxation is theft

References

   1. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
   2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   3. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   4. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   5. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   6. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   7. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   8. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   9. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  10. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  11. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
  12. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  13. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  14. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  15. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  16. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  17. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  18. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  19. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
  20. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
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  26. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  27. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  28. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
  29. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  30. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  31. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
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  33. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  34. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  35. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  36. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
  37. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
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