[Lnc-business] Seeking Co-Sponsors: Motion to set the September Meeting Location
Caryn Ann Harlos
caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Thu Jul 19 14:20:12 EDT 2018
I am going to step back this convo. I saw that too Elizabeth, and it
bothered me. I think Starchild - on this issue - does this consistently
and that is partly why I went from zero to a hundred so quickly.
HOWEVER, I personally want to apologize to Starchild. It is my job to
listen to member concerns, even if it is for many times over. I lost my
patience, and I regret that. Please forgive me Starchild.
and please listen to what people are saying as to how they *hear* what you
are saying.
-Caryn Ann
On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> I'm none too happy to have gotten emails to my personal gmail account from
> Starchild, which included a dismissive (and mocking) comment regarding my
> concerns about my asthma. I've now blocked him on my gmail account, and
> any further comments from him on this list I'll send to my spam folder.
>
> Meanwhile. I've also gotten an "off list' message from someone else on
> this list who shares my health concern, and was happy I commented. (No
> doubt they'd prefer to not have to declare about their health concerns, and
> I don't much appreciate being put into this position either.) (See
> attached, I'm on a preventive treatment for severe asthma, and this isn't
> area where I'll compromise.)
>
> EVH
>
> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
>
>
>
> On 2018-07-19 07:28, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business wrote:
>
>> I read the email from Starchild, and appreciate the kind and generous
>> offer that's been extended from Ernest and Donna Hancock. I've also
>> read through the other exchanges regarding this topic, and would like
>> to add my perspective. I have asthma. As such, I'm careful about
>> where I go, as air quality can negatively affect my breathing. I also
>> have allergies, and some animals and other environmental aspects can
>> cause either, an asthma attack, or other allergic reactions.
>>
>> While I do attend gatherings at private residences, both indoor and
>> outdoor, I do so with the knowledge that if I leave, I'm not missing
>> anything important. (social gatherings, etc.) But, an LNC meeting is
>> LP business, and I have an obligation to Region 3, which includes
>> attending LNC meetings. I don't want to be in a situation where I'd
>> need to miss or even curtail, an LNC meeting due to the environment
>> (Indoor or outdoor) It's possible others on the LNC, LP members, or
>> guests, who may wish to attend an LNC, have similar health concerns.
>> Out of consideration of my own health, and that of others, I'd not be
>> in favor of an outdoor meeting, or one at a private residence.
>>
>>
>> ---
>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>>
>>
>> On 2018-07-18 22:49, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:
>>
>>> Motion: In order to save the general membership funds, I move to set
>>> the September Meeting location at the home of
>>> ===
>>> Rationale: A member in the Phoenix area has indicated that they have
>>> the space available, at no charge, to host our meeting. The meeting
>>> location has not currently been set and I am unaware of where we are
>>> at
>>> as far as determining a location. After asking the question last week
>>> and getting no official answer, I am now moving to set the location
>>> ahead of any official announcement. I would encourage everyone to
>>> review the email Starchild sent to us yesterday which includes
>>> comments
>>> from Ernie, the homeowner.
>>> Richard Longstreth
>>> Region 1 Representative
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Richard Longstreth
>>> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY)
>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>> [1]richard.longstreth at lp.org
>>> 931.538.9300
>>>
>>> References
>>>
>>> 1. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
>>
>>
--
--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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I am going to step back this convo. I saw that too Elizabeth, and it
bothered me. I think Starchild - on this issue - does this
consistently and that is partly why I went from zero to a hundred so
quickly.
HOWEVER, I personally want to apologize to Starchild. It is my job to
listen to member concerns, even if it is for many times over. I lost
my patience, and I regret that. Please forgive me Starchild.
and please listen to what people are saying as to how they *hear* what
you are saying.
-Caryn Ann
On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business
<[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
I'm none too happy to have gotten emails to my personal gmail
account from Starchild, which included a dismissive (and mocking)
comment regarding my concerns about my asthma. I've now blocked him
on my gmail account, and any further comments from him on this list
I'll send to my spam folder.
Meanwhile. I've also gotten an "off list' message from someone else
on this list who shares my health concern, and was happy I
commented. (No doubt they'd prefer to not have to declare about
their health concerns, and I don't much appreciate being put into
this position either.) (See attached, I'm on a preventive treatment
for severe asthma, and this isn't area where I'll compromise.)
EVH
---
Elizabeth Van Horn
On 2018-07-19 07:28, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business wrote:
I read the email from Starchild, and appreciate the kind and
generous
offer that's been extended from Ernest and Donna Hancock. I've also
read through the other exchanges regarding this topic, and would
like
to add my perspective. I have asthma. As such, I'm careful about
where I go, as air quality can negatively affect my breathing. I
also
have allergies, and some animals and other environmental aspects can
cause either, an asthma attack, or other allergic reactions.
While I do attend gatherings at private residences, both indoor and
outdoor, I do so with the knowledge that if I leave, I'm not missing
anything important. (social gatherings, etc.) But, an LNC meeting
is
LP business, and I have an obligation to Region 3, which includes
attending LNC meetings. I don't want to be in a situation where I'd
need to miss or even curtail, an LNC meeting due to the environment
(Indoor or outdoor) It's possible others on the LNC, LP members, or
guests, who may wish to attend an LNC, have similar health concerns.
Out of consideration of my own health, and that of others, I'd not
be
in favor of an outdoor meeting, or one at a private residence.
---
Elizabeth Van Horn
On 2018-07-18 22:49, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:
Motion: In order to save the general membership funds, I move to set
the September Meeting location at the home of
===
Rationale: A member in the Phoenix area has indicated that they
have
the space available, at no charge, to host our meeting. The
meeting
location has not currently been set and I am unaware of where we
are at
as far as determining a location. After asking the question last
week
and getting no official answer, I am now moving to set the
location
ahead of any official announcement. I would encourage everyone to
review the email Starchild sent to us yesterday which includes
comments
from Ernie, the homeowner.
Richard Longstreth
Region 1 Representative
--
Richard Longstreth
Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA,
WY)
Libertarian National Committee
[1][2]richard.longstreth at lp.org
931.538.9300
References
1. mailto:[3]richard.longstreth at lp.org
--
--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
- [4]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
References
1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
2. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
3. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
4. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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