[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-12: INDEPENDENT AUDIT OF AT-LARGE VOTE RESULTS
Alicia Mattson
alicia.mattson at lp.org
Fri Jul 20 16:58:49 EDT 2018
Nick,
This motion tasks you with appointing two auditors to complete this task.
Allow me to note that it's much better for the auditors to work with the
original ballots, rather than my scans of them. That way they can assure
themselves that there aren't other votes on the backs of other ballots, and
that there really was a ballot containing two votes for one candidate (one
on the front, and one on the back). Etc.
If you select two auditors who can be in the same place at the same time to
use the original ballots, that would be efficient.
Additionally, if you will select auditors who can be in the same place at
the same time within a reasonable driving distance of me (Phoenix is within
that zone, and you could personally supervise if you wish), I will
hand-deliver the ballots to them. I can sit in a corner and work on
something else while they do their task, but if at some point their number
doesn't match mine, we can all take a look at it right then without going
back and forth via email. If the two auditors and I can spend a day and
come out of this with agreement on the numbers, that would seem to me like
a solid result.
-Alicia
On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 1:44 PM, Alicia Mattson <alicia.mattson at lp.org>
wrote:
> Since these results include a vote change during the final day, I do think
> these results need to be footnoted as follows:
>
> * Since the published ending time of the ballot resulted in a voting
> period which exceeded 8 days, Ms. Mattson had expressed a belief that the
> end date should be changed from 7/19/18 to 7/18/18. During this final day
> of voting which is disputed, Mr. Redpath changed his vote from "no" to
> "yes". These reported results reflect the changed vote during the disputed
> time period, but the outcome of the vote is not impacted by the question of
> how to report this one vote.
>
> If they're footnoted, given that it doesn't impact the result, I won't
> feel a need to raise a point of order about the reported results and ask
> the LNC to make a decision on how to report that vote change.
>
> -Alicia
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 12:18 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
>> Voting has ENDED for the email ballot TITLE Voting "aye": Bilyeu,
>> Hagan, Harlos, Hewitt, Longstreth, Lyons, Mattson, Merced, Phillips,
>> Redpath, Smith Voting "nay": Bishop-Henchman, Goldstein, Van Horn
>> Express Abstention: Lark, Nekhaila With a final vote tally of 11-3-2,
>> the motion PASSES. Note: Sarwark did not vote. You can keep track of
>> the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
>> [1]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 7:30 AM, William Redpath via Lnc-business
>> <[2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> I will change my vote on an LNC At-Large voting audit to Yes. Bill
>> Redpath
>>
>> On 2018-07-19 02:11, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business wrote:
>>
>> I vote yes.
>> -Alicia
>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 11:53 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via
>> Lnc-business
>> <[1][3]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the
>> LNC-Business
>> list by July 19, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
>> Co-Sponsors:
>> Bowden,
>> Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson
>> Motion: Move that the LNC would have an audit of the At
>> Large
>> ballots
>> done by two independent auditors appointed by the Chair, ie
>> someone not
>> in the race. You can keep track of the Secretary's manual
>> tally
>> of
>> votes here: [1][2][4]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> --
>> --
>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
>> Secretary
>> - [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> We defend your rights
>> And oppose the use of force
>> Taxation is theft
>> References
>> 1. [3][5]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 2. mailto:[4]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> References
>> 1. mailto:[6]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 2. [7]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 3. [8]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 4. mailto:[9]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>
>> --
>> --
>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
>> - [10]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> We defend your rights
>> And oppose the use of force
>> Taxation is theft
>>
>> References
>>
>> 1. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 3. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 4. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 5. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 6. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 7. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 8. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 9. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> 10. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>
>
>
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Nick,
This motion tasks you with appointing two auditors to complete this
task.
Allow me to note that it's much better for the auditors to work with
the original ballots, rather than my scans of them. That way they can
assure themselves that there aren't other votes on the backs of other
ballots, and that there really was a ballot containing two votes for
one candidate (one on the front, and one on the back). Etc.
If you select two auditors who can be in the same place at the same
time to use the original ballots, that would be efficient.
Additionally, if you will select auditors who can be in the same place
at the same time within a reasonable driving distance of me (Phoenix is
within that zone, and you could personally supervise if you wish), I
will hand-deliver the ballots to them. I can sit in a corner and work
on something else while they do their task, but if at some point their
number doesn't match mine, we can all take a look at it right then
without going back and forth via email. If the two auditors and I can
spend a day and come out of this with agreement on the numbers, that
would seem to me like a solid result.
-Alicia
On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 1:44 PM, Alicia Mattson
<[1]alicia.mattson at lp.org> wrote:
Since these results include a vote change during the final day, I do
think these results need to be footnoted as follows:
* Since the published ending time of the ballot resulted in a voting
period which exceeded 8 days, Ms. Mattson had expressed a belief that
the end date should be changed from 7/19/18 to 7/18/18. During this
final day of voting which is disputed, Mr. Redpath changed his vote
from "no" to "yes". These reported results reflect the changed vote
during the disputed time period, but the outcome of the vote is not
impacted by the question of how to report this one vote.
If they're footnoted, given that it doesn't impact the result, I won't
feel a need to raise a point of order about the reported results and
ask the LNC to make a decision on how to report that vote change.
-Alicia
On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 12:18 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
<[2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
Voting has ENDED for the email ballot TITLE Voting "aye": Bilyeu,
Hagan, Harlos, Hewitt, Longstreth, Lyons, Mattson, Merced,
Phillips,
Redpath, Smith Voting "nay": Bishop-Henchman, Goldstein, Van Horn
Express Abstention: Lark, Nekhaila With a final vote tally of
11-3-2,
the motion PASSES. Note: Sarwark did not vote. You can keep track
of
the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
[1][3]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 7:30 AM, William Redpath via Lnc-business
<[2][4]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
I will change my vote on an LNC At-Large voting audit to Yes.
Bill
Redpath
On 2018-07-19 02:11, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business wrote:
I vote yes.
-Alicia
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 11:53 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via
Lnc-business
<[1][3][5]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the
LNC-Business
list by July 19, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors:
Bowden,
Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson
Motion: Move that the LNC would have an audit of the At
Large
ballots
done by two independent auditors appointed by the
Chair, ie
someone not
in the race. You can keep track of the Secretary's
manual
tally
of
votes here: [1][2][4][6]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
--
--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
Secretary
- [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
References
1. [3][5][7]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
2. mailto:[4]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
References
1. mailto:[6][8]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
2. [7][9]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
3. [8][10]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
4. mailto:[9]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
--
--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
- [10]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
References
1. [11]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
2. mailto:[12]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
3. mailto:[13]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
4. [14]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
5. [15]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
6. mailto:[16]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
7. [17]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
8. [18]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
9. mailto:[19]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
10. mailto:[20]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
References
1. mailto:alicia.mattson at lp.org
2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
3. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
4. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
5. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
6. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
7. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
8. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
9. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
10. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
11. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
12. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
13. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
14. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
15. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
16. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
17. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
18. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
19. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
20. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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