[Lnc-business] Fwd: Re: LPME Official Party & Ballot Access Reform
Elizabeth Van Horn
elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
Mon Jul 23 09:18:13 EDT 2018
Hi Chris,
The information came from our LP chair Nick Sarwark. I can see if he's
able to clarify, or ask the LP national legal counsel.
---
Elizabeth Van Horn
On 2018-07-22 15:18, chrislyons752 wrote:
> Thank you for looking into it. However, there seems to be confusion. We, in Maine can hold raffles and we are aware of all Maine and Irs restrictions. But, anybody can buy a raffle from another state. There seems to be no restrictions for buying a raffle ticket. The restrictions only apply to those hosting or holding a raffle and what their state restrictions are. Would it be possible to have this question answered by Oliver Hall before August 3rd to be on the safe side?
>
> Sent from my U.S. Cellular(R) Smartphone
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Elizabeth Van Horn
> Date:07/22/2018 12:55 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> Cc: chrislyons752 at gmail.com
> Subject: Fwd: Re: LPME Official Party & Ballot Access Reform
>
> Hello again Chris,
>
> I've asked about sharing the LPME raffle from the LP national FB page. Unfortunately, possible legal issues will prevent LP national from sharing a state affiliate raffle. Two legal possible issues:
>
> 1) The national party can't do direct solicitations of money for state and local candidates.
> 2) Also, even if the raffle is compliant with Maine laws, there could be legal issues in promoting to states that might have different laws regarding raffles.
>
> So, can't do sharing from the LP national social media for a state affiliate raffle.
>
> Now, I'm thinking that we may be able to set-up some state-affiliate share system with other LP state affiliates by going through several of the LP social media groups. So, send me the information about the LPME raffle, once you have it. I'll work to help get it shared to the other state affiliates.
>
> Elizabeth Van Horn
>
> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
>
> -------- Original Message --------
>
> SUBJECT:
> Re: LPME Official Party & Ballot Access Reform
>
> DATE:
> 2018-07-22 06:35
>
> FROM:
> chrislyons752 <chrislyons752 at gmail.com>
>
> TO:
> Elizabeth Van Horn <elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org>
>
> Thank you Elizabeth. It was kind of weird with the lobster raffle. A guy did win but it took 3 weeks for him to get back to me.
>
> Sent from my U.S. Cellular(R) Smartphone
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Elizabeth Van Horn
> Date:07/22/2018 5:49 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: Chris Lyons
> Cc: "Nicholas J. Sarwark" ,alex.merced at lp.org,treasurer at lp.org,secretary at lp.org,joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org,sam.goldstein at lp.org,alicia.mattson at lp.org,william.redpath at lp.org,joshua.smith at lp.org,richard.longstreth at lp.org,craig.bowden at lp.org,steven.nekhaila at lp.org,victoria.page.lee at lp.org,dustin.nanna at lp.org,jeffery.hewitt at lp.org,kenneth.olsen at lp.org,james.lark at lp.org,susan.hogarth at lp.org,john.phillips at lp.org,phillip.anderson at lp.org,whitney.bilyeu at lp.org,erin.adams at lp.org
> Subject: Re: LPME Official Party & Ballot Access Reform
>
> Hello Chris,
>
> Regarding #3, I'll take your request to the LP social media admin group, as there's where suggested postings to the LP national page get discussed. I'd be happy to post the raffle link to the LP national Fb page if given the ok. I'll get back to you once I get some feedback.
>
> (Oh, and I bought one of your lobster raffle tickets a while back. (I didn't win.) Sure was looking forward to some tasty lobster. : )
>
> Cheers,
> EVH
>
> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
>
> On 2018-07-22 05:38, Chris Lyons wrote:
>
>> Good morning officers of the LP.
>>
>> I am currently the chair of the Libertarian Party of Maine and held this position in 2016 into 2017 as well. During both these times, I have requested support, not just moral support, repeatedly to ensure LPME maintains official party status and thus, ballot access.
>>
>> Even though we have enjoyed growth and success,99% by our own means, it is apparent we are not a priority and other states are. So be it.
>> With no choice to but accept this reality, I respectfully request support in 3 other areas:
>>
>> 1) Will LP support our legal counsel to pressure and possible go to court with the state of Maine to not have our 5,800 enrolled Libertarians be unenrolled by the state after the general election and that Mainers will still be able to enroll as Libertarians once we lose official party status. It is my understanding that 8 cases have been argued on this matter and 7 were successful. Will LP support this?
>>
>> 2) LPME is working out the details with other organizations to begin a citizens' initiative for Ballot Access Reform. The Maine Green Independents (43,000 + registered) are on board. The language and details are being worked out and covers lowering the number of registered voters to achieve official party status, nomination by convention and if need be, lowering the number of petitioning signatures for candidates to be on the ballot. The number of signatures required for the initiative is 61,000+. The Greens are on board and other organizations will be as well. We intend to sublit and launch this coming September. We will be using volunteers and paid petitioners to get the signatures. We will also need funds to educate the voters to be successful on the general election in 2019. Will the LP, on our behalf, solicit donations for this initiative?
>>
>> 3)LPME has been hosting raffles for guns and lobsters. In August, we will be holding another raffle of Box of Maine. https://www.boxofmaine.com/ Would LP direct the management of the national party to post this raffle on the LP fb page on August 3, 10, 17, 24 & 31? I will have the particulars before this date so it merely needs to be posted. The revenue from these raffles goes towards growing county structures and is being saved to launch another registration drive in 2019 to gain official party status, again.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Cordially,
>> Chris Lyons
>> LPME, Chair
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Hi Chris,
The information came from our LP chair Nick Sarwark. I can see if
he's able to clarify, or ask the LP national legal counsel.
---
Elizabeth Van Horn
On 2018-07-22 15:18, chrislyons752 wrote:
Thank you for looking into it. However, there seems to be confusion.
We, in Maine can hold raffles and we are aware of all Maine and Irs
restrictions. But, anybody can buy a raffle from another state. There
seems to be no restrictions for buying a raffle ticket. The
restrictions only apply to those hosting or holding a raffle and what
their state restrictions are. Would it be possible to have this
question answered by Oliver Hall before August 3rd to be on the safe
side?
Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone
-------- Original message --------
From: Elizabeth Van Horn
Date:07/22/2018 12:55 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: lnc-business at hq.lp.org
Cc: chrislyons752 at gmail.com
Subject: Fwd: Re: LPME Official Party & Ballot Access Reform
Hello again Chris,
I've asked about sharing the LPME raffle from the LP national FB
page. Unfortunately, possible legal issues will prevent LP national
from sharing a state affiliate raffle. Two legal possible issues:
1) The national party can't do direct solicitations of money for
state and local candidates.
2) Also, even if the raffle is compliant with Maine laws, there
could be legal issues in promoting to states that might have
different laws regarding raffles.
So, can't do sharing from the LP national social media for a state
affiliate raffle.
Now, I'm thinking that we may be able to set-up some
state-affiliate share system with other LP state affiliates by going
through several of the LP social media groups. So, send me the
information about the LPME raffle, once you have it. I'll work to
help get it shared to the other state affiliates.
Elizabeth Van Horn
---
Elizabeth Van Horn
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: LPME Official Party & Ballot Access Reform
Date: 2018-07-22 06:35
From: chrislyons752 <chrislyons752 at gmail.com>
To: Elizabeth Van Horn <elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org>
Thank you Elizabeth. It was kind of weird with the lobster raffle. A
guy did win but it took 3 weeks for him to get back to me.
Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone
-------- Original message --------
From: Elizabeth Van Horn
Date:07/22/2018 5:49 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: Chris Lyons
Cc: "Nicholas J. Sarwark"
,alex.merced at lp.org,treasurer at lp.org,secretary at lp.org,joe.bishop-henchm
an at lp.org,sam.goldstein at lp.org,alicia.mattson at lp.org,william.redpath at lp
.org,joshua.smith at lp.org,richard.longstreth at lp.org,craig.bowden at lp.org,
steven.nekhaila at lp.org,victoria.page.lee at lp.org,dustin.nanna at lp.org,jef
fery.hewitt at lp.org,kenneth.olsen at lp.org,james.lark at lp.org,susan.hogarth
@lp.org,john.phillips at lp.org,phillip.anderson at lp.org,whitney.bilyeu at lp.
org,erin.adams at lp.org
Subject: Re: LPME Official Party & Ballot Access Reform
Hello Chris,
Regarding #3, I'll take your request to the LP social media admin
group, as there's where suggested postings to the LP national page
get discussed. I'd be happy to post the raffle link to the LP
national Fb page if given the ok. I'll get back to you once I get
some feedback.
(Oh, and I bought one of your lobster raffle tickets a while back.
(I didn't win.) Sure was looking forward to some tasty lobster. :
)
Cheers,
EVH
---
Elizabeth Van Horn
On 2018-07-22 05:38, Chris Lyons wrote:
Good morning officers of the LP.
I am currently the chair of the Libertarian Party of Maine and held
this position in 2016 into 2017 as well. During both these times, I
have requested support, not just moral support, repeatedly to ensure
LPME maintains official party status and thus, ballot access.
Even though we have enjoyed growth and success,99% by our own means, it
is apparent we are not a priority and other states are. So be it.
With no choice to but accept this reality, I respectfully request
support in 3 other areas:
1) Will LP support our legal counsel to pressure and possible go to
court with the state of Maine to not have our 5,800 enrolled
Libertarians be unenrolled by the state after the general election and
that Mainers will still be able to enroll as Libertarians once we lose
official party status. It is my understanding that 8 cases have been
argued on this matter and 7 were successful. Will LP support this?
2) LPME is working out the details with other organizations to begin a
citizens' initiative for Ballot Access Reform. The Maine Green
Independents (43,000 + registered) are on board. The language and
details are being worked out and covers lowering the number of
registered voters to achieve official party status, nomination by
convention and if need be, lowering the number of petitioning
signatures for candidates to be on the ballot. The number of signatures
required for the initiative is 61,000+. The Greens are on board and
other organizations will be as well. We intend to sublit and launch
this coming September. We will be using volunteers and paid petitioners
to get the signatures. We will also need funds to educate the voters to
be successful on the general election in 2019. Will the LP, on our
behalf, solicit donations for this initiative?
3)LPME has been hosting raffles for guns and lobsters. In August, we
will be holding another raffle of Box of Maine.
[1]https://www.boxofmaine.com/ Would LP direct the management of the
national party to post this raffle on the LP fb page on August 3, 10,
17, 24 & 31? I will have the particulars before this date so it merely
needs to be posted. The revenue from these raffles goes towards growing
county structures and is being saved to launch another registration
drive in 2019 to gain official party status, again.
Thank you.
Cordially,
Chris Lyons
LPME, Chair
References
1. https://www.boxofmaine.com/
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