[Lnc-business] Policy Manual 1.04 -Email Ballots

[Craig Bowden]

Language seems pretty clear to me. Says that ballots shall not have 
accompanying argument. So going forward, I say we just do a separate 
thread. That solves the issue. It doesn't need any additional language 
to it to clarify. I think if we try to debate stylistic changes to this, 
it will eat up a lot of time over an issue that doesn't really affect 
anything. If we simply do two threads, there ends up being self 
regulation on the issue and can't contradict the policy.

Craig Bowden
Region 1 Alternate

On 2018-08-01 19:33, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> Others interpret just as the initial stating of the ballot by the
> Secretary - it’s unclear.
> 
> I think at one time there were two lists - am I correct? lncvotes and
> lncdiscuss?
> 
> -Caryn Ann
> 
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 7:31 PM Craig Bowden <craig.bowden at lp.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> Clarity on this, as I read it, is simple:
>> Keep the ballot thread clean, just votes.
>> Have a separate thread that has debates on the motion.
>> 
>> So
>> 
>> I vote yes/no/abstain because [insert reasoning] would be a no go.
>> But
>> if a separate thread were addressing the discussion, it would work
>> just
>> fine.
>> 
>> So just as we title the ballot that it is an electronic ballot, we
>> have
>> a similar styling for debate on the issue.
>> 
>> Craig Bowden
>> Region 1 Alternate
>> 
>> On 2018-08-01 18:27, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>> I believe we may have been doing something incorrectly as per our
>>> special rules.  Specifically:
>>> 
>>> Section 1.04 ELECTRONIC MAIL BALLOT PROCEDURES
>>> 
>>> 1) Electronic Mail Ballots 30 Electronic mail ballots shall not
>>> include an accompanying argument for or against passage of the
>> motion.
>>> Notification of an electronic mail ballot shall be made by the
>>> Secretary by electronic mail. An LNC Member may change his or her
>> vote
>>> on an electronic mail ballot, provided that the change is received
>> by
>>> the Secretary by the deadline for return of ballots.
>>> 
>>> Because when I was first elected debate was permitted in the
>> threads I
>>> always interpreted this to mean that the ballot, i.e. the post by
>> the
>>> Secretary, should not include any argument.  But I see that in the
>>> past, this was not the case but was interpreted to mean no debate
>> at
>>> all by anyone.
>>> 
>>> I think we need clarity on this.
>>> 
>>> Personally - I am opposed to not having debate on the email thread
>> - I
>>> think it provides better results, but I think we may be violating
>> our
>>> rules and that we either need to cease allowing debate or modify
>> our
>>> Policy Manual.
>>> 
>>> -Caryn Ann
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