[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-19: AGREE TO "JC" DECISIONS

Thu Aug 2 11:43:52 EDT 2018

And that the fault and responsibility falls squarely on leadership.

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 9:43 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
wrote:

> No Whitney it is my personal position that the delegates were
> inadvertently unduly influenced and misled.
>
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 9:41 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> wrote:
>
>> It would require a bylaws change effective for that convention only.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 9:01 AM john.phillips at lp.org <john.phillips at lp.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Exactly, I think we already discussed this a bit.
>>>
>>> John Phillips
>>>
>>> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>>>
>>> Cell 217-412-5973
>>>
>>> ------ Original message------
>>> *From: *Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> *Date: *Thu, Aug 2, 2018 10:43 AM
>>> *To: *lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
>>> *Cc: *Sam Goldstein;john.phillips at lp.org;
>>> *Subject:*Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-19: AGREE TO "JC"
>>> DECISIONS
>>>
>>> At the beginning of convention someone will need to move to amend the
>>> convention agenda as specified in our rules
>>>
>>> It would behoove us to plan for that with a smooth process
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 7:56 AM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business <
>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just to be clear, one way or another I hope to get it moved to the
>>>> beginning of the 2020 convention rather than the end or waiting until 2022,
>>>> so that it can be done and have a fully functioning JC for anything that
>>>> may come up during the convention.
>>>>
>>>> John Phillips
>>>>
>>>> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>>>>
>>>> Cell 217-412-5973
>>>>
>>>> ------ Original message------
>>>> *From: *Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
>>>> *Date: *Thu, Aug 2, 2018 9:45 AM
>>>> *To: *Sam Goldstein;
>>>> *Cc: *Caryn Ann Harlos;lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
>>>> *Subject:*Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-19: AGREE TO "JC"
>>>> DECISIONS
>>>>
>>>> Unless the 2020 Convention takes care of the problem, yes.
>>>>
>>>> That solves the problem that we - through our chair - inadvertently
>>>> (but still grievously) caused.
>>>>
>>>> The delegates can take it up in 2020
>>>>
>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>
>>>> PS: the official results will be announced shortly
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 6:44 AM Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein at lp.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So this pretend JC will serve until 2022?
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Sam Goldstein
>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>>> 317-850-0726 Cell
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2018-08-02 02:22, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The motion specifies that things would continue as if elected which
>>>>> means their term would end as per Bylaws.  I explicitly anticipated that.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 11:13 PM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
>>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It occurs to me that this motion contains no expiration date, which
>>>>>> could lead to confusion about whether these 7 people would play this role
>>>>>> forever, even in a future LNC term, even after a Judicial Committee is
>>>>>> elected, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This motion needs to clarify that it expires at the end of this term.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Alicia
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 5:06 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
>>>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the
>>>>>>> LNC-Business
>>>>>>>    list by AUGUST 1, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors:
>>>>>>> Harlos,
>>>>>>>    Longstreth, Merced, Phillips Motion: Move that the Libertarian
>>>>>>> National
>>>>>>>    Committee agree to be bound by the decisions of the top-seven
>>>>>>>    vote-getters for the Judicial Committee at the 2018 Convention as
>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>    they were elected in the normal course of convention business and
>>>>>>>    follow the procedures and rules set forth in our Bylaws. It is
>>>>>>>    acknowledged that this agreement is not binding upon any member or
>>>>>>>    affiliate. You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of
>>>>>>> votes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    here: [1]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    --
>>>>>>>    In Liberty,
>>>>>>>    Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>    Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org <+Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>>>> <+Secretary at LP.org.>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>>>>>> <+LPedia at LP.org>
>>>>>>>    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>    We defend your rights
>>>>>>>    And oppose the use of force
>>>>>>>    Taxation is theft
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> References
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    1. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>    2. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>> --
>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>> <+Secretary at LP.org.>
>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>>>> <+LPedia at LP.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>> --
>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>>>> <+Secretary at LP.org.>
>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>>> <+LPedia at LP.org>
>>>>
>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>>> <+Secretary at LP.org.>
>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>> <+LPedia at LP.org>
>>>
>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>> *We defend your rights*
>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>
>> --
>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> *We defend your rights*
>> *And oppose the use of force*
>> *Taxation is theft*
>>
> --
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> *We defend your rights*
> *And oppose the use of force*
> *Taxation is theft*
>
-- 
-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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