[Lnc-business] Youth Committee

Sat Aug 4 11:40:22 EDT 2018

Most certainly.  Sam and I spent a good deal of time on Friday working with
Andy on this.

This will become a permanent feature so members know where to look for
upcoming appointments (a link will be placed on the current committees
page) and I’ll be writing a piece for LP news on it.

-Caryn Ann

On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 8:10 AM Elizabeth Van Horn <elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org>
wrote:

> Regarding the application, good! Also, please inform us (LNC) on this list
> when the site is published and the email blast is going out, that way we
> can promote to our regions, groups, etc.
> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
>
>
> On 2018-08-04 08:30, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>
> Without being pedantic of course people can be "told" anything.  I think
> the context of my statement was not quite so literally wooden.  I think we
> all know how language works. I still fail to see what was so originally
> horribly offensive but since the critique was directed to Richard, I leave
> that to him to sort out.
>
> On the topic of the application, yes, it will be published on the site and
> email blasted.  It is finished but pending Wes to put the new page and
> application through APRC approval.  I will be following up with him today.
>
> -Caryn Ann
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 11:00 PM Elizabeth Van Horn <
> elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>
>> You wrote:  "But no one can be told they cannot speech."
>>
>> Sure they can.  People can be told anything.  Whether one chooses to
>> listen, or do it, is a different matter.
>>
>> Regardless of who said what, or replied to whom, more focus on LP
>> business, would be good.
>>
>> With that in mind, the unified committee application will be on the LP
>> website?  If so, I'm guessing that staff will send out appropriate
>> information through the LP newsletter, emails, and/or contacts to state
>> affiliates.  I'm excited to let members in Region 3 know about the
>> committee applications.  I've already had multiple people inquire about the
>> various committees and express an interest.  I expect we'll have a good
>> response ratio from members who are wanting to serve on various
>> committees.  A great opportunity for members to help grow and build the
>> LP!
>>
>> EVH
>> ---
>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>>
>> On 2018-08-03 22:51, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>
>> It was enough to create something for the application.
>>
>> I - too - am lost as to what Joe was speaking about.  However we all from
>> time to time may read something on this list that we don't care for.  No
>> one is being personally cc'd - this is a distribution list and while we can
>> ask for different communication styles none of us can tell another member
>> that because we personally don't like what they had to say that they have
>> to take it off list to avoid offending a few people.  Members have a right
>> to send to the list and we have to choose to scroll by messages we don't
>> care for.  I scrolled by several over the past two weeks directed at me.
>>
>> Plus on all counts it seems the offense is highly selective and not
>> uniformly applied depending on who the target is.
>>
>> But no one can be told they cannot speech.  They can be exhorted to
>> elevate speech.  Though in this case I'm hard pressed to see where the
>> offense was.
>>
>> -Caryn Ann
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 7:55 PM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business <
>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Found it. Alicia shared this text as the full resolution:
>>>
>>> ---------------------
>>> Resolved, this convention seeks to recognize and promote young
>>> libertarian activists;
>>> Resolved, the convention instructs the Libertarian National Committee
>>> ("LNC") to create a Youth Engagement Committee ("the Committee");
>>> Resolved, the committee shall consist of five (5) members, of which;
>>> At least one shall be on the LNC,
>>> At least two shall be under the age of twenty-seven, and at least one
>>> shall be a current college student;
>>> Resolved, the LNC shall appoint the members of the committee;
>>> Resolved, the committee shall elect from its members a chair;
>>> Resolved, the committee shall make recommendations to the LNC on
>>> conducting outreach to younger voters and education such on what the
>>> party stands for; and
>>> Resolved, this resolution shall take effect after the first meeting of
>>> the LNC.
>>> ------------------------
>>>
>>> The details are slightly vague but do give enough direction for
>>> application purposes, I believe. We can either flush out more details or
>>> let the original resolution speak for itself and see what the committee
>>> comes up with. I err on the latter, personally.
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 3, 2018, 20:50 Richard Longstreth <richard.longstreth at lp.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> John, it was a resolution with some level of instruction to the
>>>> propose. It wasn't very detailed but did outline the intentions. I believe
>>>> Joe supplied the some of the original text. I will attempt to locate the
>>>> entirety and will share here if I can find it.
>>>>
>>>> Ricard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 3, 2018, 19:17 john.phillips--- via Lnc-business <
>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just to clear it up in my mind, I thought we passed a resolution to
>>>>> create a committee?  Not actually created one?
>>>>>
>>>>> Very good chance I am misremembering, as I was also fielding phone
>>>>> calls from my business and my state affiliate at the time it came up.
>>>>>
>>>>> But if I am right, then the language becomes a lesser issue as we can
>>>>> clear it up on creation.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I am wrong then someone please provide the actual verbage.
>>>>>
>>>>> John Phillips
>>>>>
>>>>> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>>>>>
>>>>> Cell 217-412-5973
>>>>>
>>>>> ------ Original message------
>>>>> *From: *Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business
>>>>> *Date: *Fri, Aug 3, 2018 6:47 PM
>>>>> *To: *lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
>>>>> *Cc: *Richard Longstreth;
>>>>> *Subject:*Re: [Lnc-business] Youth Committee
>>>>>
>>>>> It was done from the floor, Sam. The delegates voted on it. I didn't
>>>>> the hear you or anyone object to the language there; in fact I believe it
>>>>> passed unanimously. Also, why are you saying this was written on the fly?
>>>>> Do you know this to be true? If not, and if I was the author, I'd be
>>>>> tremendously insulted at your criticism rather than assistance in making it
>>>>> happen or helping to clear up the language before passage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 3, 2018, 14:55 Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business <
>>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Another fine example of writing policy on the fly with little or no
>>>>>> experience.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Sam Goldstein
>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>> 317-850-0726 Cell
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2018-08-03 15:45, Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>>>> > The resolution text was:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Make recommendations to the LNC on conducting outreach to younger
>>>>>> > voters and education such on what the party stands for
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I think "education" is supposed to be "educating," or perhaps
>>>>>> there's
>>>>>> > a missing "as" after "such"
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > JBH
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > ------------
>>>>>> > Joe Bishop-Henchman
>>>>>> > LNC Member (At-Large)
>>>>>> > joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>> > www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On 2018-08-03 15:15, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>>>> >> Need a little bit more detail
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 1:10 PM, john.phillips at lp.org
>>>>>> >> <john.phillips at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>> >>> Youth outreach, education, and recruitment i believe
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> John Phillips
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Cell 217-412-5973
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> ------ Original message------
>>>>>> >>> From: Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
>>>>>> >>> Date: Fri, Aug 3, 2018 2:06 PM
>>>>>> >>> To: Libertarian National Committee list;
>>>>>> >>> Cc: Caryn Ann Harlos;
>>>>>> >>> Subject:[Lnc-business] Youth Committee
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Okay so I know this was created by a resolution in convention but
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> >>> we have a description on what it is to do?  I am asking because
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >>> unified committee application web page and form is nearly done
>>>>>> and I
>>>>>> >>> need to add a description for that committee.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> --
>>>>>> >>> In Liberty,
>>>>>> >>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>> >>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
>>>>>> >>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org <+Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>>> <+Secretary at LP.org.>
>>>>>> >>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>>>>> <+LPedia at LP.org>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>> >>> We defend your rights
>>>>>> >>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>>> >>> Taxation is theft
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Richard Longstreth
>>>>> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY)
>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>>> richard.longstreth at lp.org
>>>>> 931.538.9300
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Richard Longstreth
>>>> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY)
>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>> richard.longstreth at lp.org
>>>> 931.538.9300
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Richard Longstreth
>>> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY)
>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>> richard.longstreth at lp.org
>>> 931.538.9300
>>>
>> --
>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> *We defend your rights*
>> *And oppose the use of force*
>> *Taxation is theft*
>>
>> --
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> *We defend your rights*
> *And oppose the use of force*
> *Taxation is theft*
>
> --
-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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