[Lnc-business] The Purging of Alex Jones

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

Does Westboro Baptist have clean hands?  I see a lot of Libertarians
jumping the case of the ACLU for caving on free speech yet in the past they
defended Westboro.  I doubt we would have the guts to.  So who are we to
criticize the ACLU?

-Caryn Ann

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 1:59 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Very few people who's alternate opinion is being silenced have "clean
> hands" - that is part and parcel of being on the fringe.  Liberty is not a
> tame lion.
>
> Defamation - that is what civil suits are for not judging before
> adjudicated.  Calls for violence?  Target removing those if they happened -
> I am not entirely sure (not an Alex Jones consumer) that they have.  People
> take our positions as calls to violence.
>
> -Caryn Ann
>
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 1:57 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> And that is the excuse we used to be silent about Melissa's Sweet Cakes.
>>
>> I never said any platform should be forced to do anything but that is not
>> where the argument ends.
>>
>> -Caryn Ann
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 1:32 PM, john.phillips at lp.org <
>> john.phillips at lp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Which is exactly why I said a party position should mirror the abortion
>>> platform, if we take one at all.
>>>
>>> Personally I would say we are in an election year, let the candidates
>>> make their own statements and focus on them.
>>>
>>> John Phillips
>>>
>>> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>>>
>>> Cell 217-412-5973
>>>
>>> ------ Original message------
>>> *From: *brent.olsen--- via Lnc-business
>>> *Date: *Thu, Aug 9, 2018 2:06 PM
>>> *To: *lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
>>> *Cc: *brent.olsen at lp.org;Caryn Ann Harlos;
>>> *Subject:*Re: [Lnc-business] The Purging of Alex Jones
>>>
>>> I am seeing a lot of divergent libertarian positions on this matter.
>>> For some of us, like myself, it is a matter of freedom of association -
>>> private organizations should not be forced to provide a platform for
>>> speech they disagree with.  For some it is a restriction on free speech,
>>> as they see these large corporations as monopolies with too much power
>>> to restrict speech.  So I would have to see what was in the statement
>>> before giving my thumbs up....
>>>
>>> In Liberty,
>>> Brent Olsen
>>> Alternate, Region 4
>>>
>>> On 2018-08-09 11:21, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>> > Is the LP going to issue an opinion on this?  It is the perfect
>>> > opportunity to affirm rights while showing that rights are not the end
>>> > all and be all to a healthy society.  A society of peaceful bigots -
>>> > for instance - is a sick society. So is a society that
>>> > paternalistically protects us all from "those unfit to speak".
>>> >
>>> > Whether or not they are *allowed* to do it misses the point.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> > IN LIBERTY,
>>> > CARYN ANN HARLOS
>>> > Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
>>> > Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org <+Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org. <+Secretary at LP.org.>
>>> > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org <+LPedia at LP.org>
>>> >
>>> > A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>> > _We defend your rights_
>>> > _And oppose the use of force_
>>> > _Taxation is theft_
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>
>>
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> *We defend your rights*
>> *And oppose the use of force*
>> *Taxation is theft*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> *We defend your rights*
> *And oppose the use of force*
> *Taxation is theft*
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org


A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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