[Lnc-business] Fwd: Unreadable emails
Caryn Ann Harlos
caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Sun Aug 12 21:34:32 EDT 2018
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From: Ken Moellman <ken.moellman at lp.org>
Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Unreadable emails
To: Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
CC: Libertarian National Committee list <lnc-business at hq.lp.org>, Ken
Moellman <ken at moellman.com>, <john.phillips at lp.org>
So here's an interesting phenomenon. Just this morning I had an issue with
my Android phone responding to a plain text message where it responded in
both plain text AND html. And I thought to myself, "Self, this is very
odd. Why did this happen?" Then I got busy doing campaign stuff, and I
totally forgot about it until now.
So after doing some investigation work, it appears that the default GMail
application on Android phones is going to send in HTML no matter what.
I made a tweak. Try it now. See what happens. If I've done it right, it
should delete the extra content and then convert the last HTML portion to
TXT.
---
Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
On 2018-08-12 19:48, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
Those setting will transfer to your gmail if you change them in the desktop
client.
Please get with IT on the issue.
-Caryn Ann
On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 3:37 PM, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> I honestly don't look at the list, I just follow my inbox. If my emails
> are still breaking threads I am happy to talk to anyone from IT to see if
> they can help figure out what setting I might have wrong.
>
> John Phillips
>
> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>
> Cell 217-412-5973
>
> ------ Original message------
> *From: *Justin O'Donnell via Lnc-business
> *Date: *Sun, Aug 12, 2018 4:21 PM
> *To: *lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
> *Cc: *Justin O'Donnell;
> *Subject:*Re: [Lnc-business] Unreadable emails
>
> The same as Mr Bishop-Henchman described, the process described to change
> settings doesn't work, as the mobile client does not have any option or
> ability to change those settings. I have also never signed into, and don't
> appear to be able to sign into this email via a gmail browser client on
> desktop. Emails semt from my desktop outlook client, or from the roundcube
> client apppear perfectly, however emails sent from mobile do not, and there
> is no way to edit the settings. There was no problem whatsoever during the
> previous LNC term, and none of the settings on my side have been changed or
> adultered since then.
>
> We also previously had no issues with replies breaking threads in 3rd
> party email clients (roundcube never had the emails threaded to begin with)
> until the problem arose with Mr Phillips' responses breaking threads.
>
> Is there a feature or change made on the IT side since the convention that
> could have caused these issues? Because prior to the convention they did
> not exist, and the client side settings have remained the same.
>
> Justin O'Donnell
> LNC Region 8 Representative
>
> On Aug 12, 2018 5:13 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business > wrote:
> <%3Clnc-business at hq.lp.org>
>
> I note for the members reading that if you click the link in the piper
> mail version you can see the text of both Joe's and Justin's emails in html
> code.
>
> -Caryn Ann
>
> On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 3:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> If you put that setting on the gmail interface on your computer it will
> change the one in your app. That pull down will be the default until you
> change it. See screenshot attached.
>
> -Caryn Ann
>
> On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 3:09 AM, Joe Bishop-Henchman <
> joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org> wrote:
>
> I have communicated the issue on three occasions, along with the issue of
> Mr. Phillips's emails breaking threads. My issue comes from when I send
> emails from my phone Gmail app. The setting you describe is not on the app.
>
> The issue popped after the recent setting change, from the prior practice
> of the server sending clean messages no problem but for those who send
> links and in-line images, it turned those into endnotes. Over my objection,
> that setting was turned off. I'm happy to try things on my end but I'll
> need direction from the IT folks.
>
> JBH
>
>
>
>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> <+Secretary at LP.org.>
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
> <+LPedia at LP.org>
>
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> *We defend your rights*
> *And oppose the use of force*
> *Taxation is theft*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> <+Secretary at LP.org.>
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
> <+LPedia at LP.org>
>
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> *We defend your rights*
> *And oppose the use of force*
> *Taxation is theft*
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
--
--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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From: Ken Moellman <[1]ken.moellman at lp.org>
Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Unreadable emails
To: Caryn Ann Harlos <[2]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
CC: Libertarian National Committee list <[3]lnc-business at hq.lp.org>,
Ken Moellman <[4]ken at moellman.com>, <[5]john.phillips at lp.org>
So here's an interesting phenomenon. Just this morning I had an issue
with my Android phone responding to a plain text message where it
responded in both plain text AND html. And I thought to myself,
"Self, this is very odd. Why did this happen?" Then I got busy doing
campaign stuff, and I totally forgot about it until now.
So after doing some investigation work, it appears that the default
GMail application on Android phones is going to send in HTML no matter
what.
I made a tweak. Try it now. See what happens. If I've done it right,
it should delete the extra content and then convert the last HTML
portion to TXT.
---
Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
On 2018-08-12 19:48, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
Those setting will transfer to your gmail if you change them in the
desktop client.
Please get with IT on the issue.
-Caryn Ann
On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 3:37 PM, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business
<[6]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
I honestly don't look at the list, I just follow my inbox. If my
emails are still breaking threads I am happy to talk to anyone from IT
to see if they can help figure out what setting I might have wrong.
John Phillips
Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
Cell [7]217-412-5973
------ Original message------
From: Justin O'Donnell via Lnc-business
Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2018 4:21 PM
To: [8]lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
Cc: Justin O'Donnell;
Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Unreadable emails
The same as Mr Bishop-Henchman described, the process described to
change settings doesn't work, as the mobile client does not have any
option or ability to change those settings. I have also never signed
into, and don't appear to be able to sign into this email via a gmail
browser client on desktop. Emails semt from my desktop outlook client,
or from the roundcube client apppear perfectly, however emails sent
from mobile do not, and there is no way to edit the settings. There was
no problem whatsoever during the previous LNC term, and none of the
settings on my side have been changed or adultered since then.
We also previously had no issues with replies breaking threads in 3rd
party email clients (roundcube never had the emails threaded to begin
with) until the problem arose with Mr Phillips' responses breaking
threads.
Is there a feature or change made on the IT side since the convention
that could have caused these issues? Because prior to the convention
they did not exist, and the client side settings have remained the
same.
Justin O'Donnell
LNC Region 8 Representative
On Aug 12, 2018 5:13 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business [9]> wrote:
I note for the members reading that if you click the link in the piper
mail version you can see the text of both Joe's and Justin's emails in
html code.
-Caryn Ann
On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 3:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
<[10]carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
If you put that setting on the gmail interface on your computer it will
change the one in your app. That pull down will be the default until
you change it. See screenshot attached.
-Caryn Ann
On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 3:09 AM, Joe Bishop-Henchman
<[11]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org> wrote:
I have communicated the issue on three occasions, along with the issue
of Mr. Phillips's emails breaking threads. My issue comes from when I
send emails from my phone Gmail app. The setting you describe is not on
the app.
The issue popped after the recent setting change, from the prior
practice of the server sending clean messages no problem but for those
who send links and in-line images, it turned those into endnotes. Over
my objection, that setting was turned off. I'm happy to try things on
my end but I'll need direction from the IT folks.
JBH
--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
[12]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or[13] Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[14] LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
[15]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or[16] Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[17] LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
--
--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
- [18]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
--
--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
- [19]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
References
1. mailto:ken.moellman at lp.org
2. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
3. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
4. mailto:ken at moellman.com
5. mailto:john.phillips at lp.org
6. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
7. tel:217-412-5973
8. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
9. mailto:<lnc-business at hq.lp.org
10. mailto:carynannharlos at gmail.com
11. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
12. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
13. mailto:+Secretary at LP.org.
14. mailto:+LPedia at LP.org
15. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
16. mailto:+Secretary at LP.org.
17. mailto:+LPedia at LP.org
18. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
19. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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