[Lnc-business] Resolution Proposal

Caryn Ann Harlos caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Tue Aug 14 08:04:13 EDT 2018


I likely would sponsor but I want to see the alternative that is being
worked on.

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 3:36 AM Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> I was thinking the same. It's better to define what something *is*,
> instead of what it's not.
>
> Instead of saying, "rent is not theft", say: "rent is a lawful use of a
> capital asset"
>
> I'd also change the word "retrieval" to "regain possession".
>
> Might want to use terms that are in rental and lease agreements,
> although probably not necessary if the general gist is there.  As the
> resolution is an educational statement regarding property use, not a
> legal agreement. Try this for that last section:
>
>
> THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, rent is a lawful use of a capital asset, and
> owners of property such as land and
> housing, have the right to regain possession of said property, and
> retain a security deposit, if damages violate the voluntary contractual
> agreements.
>
>
> ---------------------------
>
> Oh, and family has owned real estate for many decades, and yes, we
> collect rent. It's not theft. ; )
>
> I'll be a co-sponsor.
>
>
> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
>
>
> On 2018-08-14 05:07, Susan Hogarth via Lnc-business wrote:
> > “Its affiliates” (no apostrophe)
> >
> >    Try wording the resolution positively rather than negatively,
> > perhaps?
> >
> >    Susan Jane Hogarth
> >
> >    Region 5 Alternate
> >
> >    [1]919-906-2106
> >
> >    On Aug 14, 2018 at 5:04 AM, <[2]Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business>
> >    wrote:
> >
> >    Before I ask for co-sponsorship, is there anyone who would want to
> >    tweak some of the wording proposed by Matt kibler:
> >
> >    WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party supports the free market and
> > therefore
> >    free trade among individuals;
> >    WHEREAS, while free trade may include co-ops and resource pooling,
> > it
> >    must always be voluntary;
> >    WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party strongly supports the rights of
> >    individuals to own private property including land and housing;
> >    WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party supports the rights of individuals to
> >    engage in contractual agreements of their own free will, including
> > real
> >    estate rental contracts;
> >    WHEREAS, ownership of private property, including land and housing,
> >    does not require continual and personal use to exist as justly owned
> >    property;
> >    WHEREAS, these have been part of the principles of the Libertarian
> >    Party since its founding;
> >    THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, rent is not theft, and owners of land and
> >    housing have the right to retrieval of said property and other
> > damages
> >    if voluntary contractual agreements are breached.
> >    The Libertarian Party encourages it's affiliates to consider similar
> >    resolution. Liberty is a precious gift that require eternal
> > vigilance.
> >
> >    Richard
> >    ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> >    From: Mark Kibler <[1]mkibler160 at gmail.com>
> >    Date: Mon, Aug 13, 2018, 12:52
> >    Subject: Property rights
> >    To: <[2]Richard.longstreth at lp.org>
> >
> >    I would ask that you stand against the complaints filed against
> > Caryn
> >    Ann Harlos and Josh Smith for standing for Libertarian Principles
> > and
> >    would like you to propose the following resolution to the LNC
> >
> >    WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party supports the free market and
> > therefore
> >    free trade among individuals;
> >
> >    WHEREAS, while free trade may include co-ops and resource pooling,
> > it
> >    must always be voluntary;
> >
> >    WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party strongly supports the rights of
> >    individuals to own private property including land and housing;
> >
> >    WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party supports the rights of individuals to
> >    engage in contractual agreements of their own free will, including
> > real
> >    estate rental contracts;
> >
> >    WHEREAS, ownership of private property, including land and housing,
> >    does not require continual and personal use to exist as justly owned
> >    property;
> >
> >    WHEREAS, these have been part of the principles of the Libertarian
> >    Party since its founding;
> >
> >    THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, rent is not theft, and owners of land and
> >    housing have the right to retrieval of said property and other
> > damages
> >    if voluntary contractual agreements are breached.
> >
> >    The Libertarian Party encourages it's affiliates to consider similar
> >    resolution. Liberty is a precious gift that require eternal
> > vigilance.
> >
> >    In Liberty,
> >    Mark Kibler
> >
> >    --
> >
> >    Richard Longstreth
> >    Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY)
> >    Libertarian National Committee
> >    [3]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >    931.538.9300
> >
> > References
> >
> >    1. mailto:mkibler160 at gmail.com
> >    2. mailto:Richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >    3. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >
> > References
> >
> >    1. tel:919-906-2106
> >    2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>
-- 
-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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   I likely would sponsor but I want to see the alternative that is being
   worked on.
   On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 3:36 AM Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business
   <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

     I was thinking the same. It's better to define what something *is*,
     instead of what it's not.
     Instead of saying, "rent is not theft", say: "rent is a lawful use
     of a
     capital asset"
     I'd also change the word "retrieval" to "regain possession".
     Might want to use terms that are in rental and lease agreements,
     although probably not necessary if the general gist is there.  As
     the
     resolution is an educational statement regarding property use, not a
     legal agreement. Try this for that last section:
     THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, rent is a lawful use of a capital asset,
     and
     owners of property such as land and
     housing, have the right to regain possession of said property, and
     retain a security deposit, if damages violate the voluntary
     contractual
     agreements.
     ---------------------------
     Oh, and family has owned real estate for many decades, and yes, we
     collect rent. It's not theft. ; )
     I'll be a co-sponsor.
     ---
     Elizabeth Van Horn
     On 2018-08-14 05:07, Susan Hogarth via Lnc-business wrote:
     > “Its affiliates” (no apostrophe)
     >
     >    Try wording the resolution positively rather than negatively,
     > perhaps?
     >
     >    Susan Jane Hogarth
     >
     >    Region 5 Alternate
     >
     >    [1]919-906-2106
     >
     >    On Aug 14, 2018 at 5:04 AM, <[2]Richard Longstreth via
     Lnc-business>
     >    wrote:
     >
     >    Before I ask for co-sponsorship, is there anyone who would want
     to
     >    tweak some of the wording proposed by Matt kibler:
     >
     >    WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party supports the free market and
     > therefore
     >    free trade among individuals;
     >    WHEREAS, while free trade may include co-ops and resource
     pooling,
     > it
     >    must always be voluntary;
     >    WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party strongly supports the rights of
     >    individuals to own private property including land and housing;
     >    WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party supports the rights of
     individuals to
     >    engage in contractual agreements of their own free will,
     including
     > real
     >    estate rental contracts;
     >    WHEREAS, ownership of private property, including land and
     housing,
     >    does not require continual and personal use to exist as justly
     owned
     >    property;
     >    WHEREAS, these have been part of the principles of the
     Libertarian
     >    Party since its founding;
     >    THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, rent is not theft, and owners of
     land and
     >    housing have the right to retrieval of said property and other
     > damages
     >    if voluntary contractual agreements are breached.
     >    The Libertarian Party encourages it's affiliates to consider
     similar
     >    resolution. Liberty is a precious gift that require eternal
     > vigilance.
     >
     >    Richard
     >    ---------- Forwarded message ---------
     >    From: Mark Kibler <[1][2]mkibler160 at gmail.com>
     >    Date: Mon, Aug 13, 2018, 12:52
     >    Subject: Property rights
     >    To: <[2][3]Richard.longstreth at lp.org>
     >
     >    I would ask that you stand against the complaints filed against
     > Caryn
     >    Ann Harlos and Josh Smith for standing for Libertarian
     Principles
     > and
     >    would like you to propose the following resolution to the LNC
     >
     >    WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party supports the free market and
     > therefore
     >    free trade among individuals;
     >
     >    WHEREAS, while free trade may include co-ops and resource
     pooling,
     > it
     >    must always be voluntary;
     >
     >    WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party strongly supports the rights of
     >    individuals to own private property including land and housing;
     >
     >    WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party supports the rights of
     individuals to
     >    engage in contractual agreements of their own free will,
     including
     > real
     >    estate rental contracts;
     >
     >    WHEREAS, ownership of private property, including land and
     housing,
     >    does not require continual and personal use to exist as justly
     owned
     >    property;
     >
     >    WHEREAS, these have been part of the principles of the
     Libertarian
     >    Party since its founding;
     >
     >    THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, rent is not theft, and owners of
     land and
     >    housing have the right to retrieval of said property and other
     > damages
     >    if voluntary contractual agreements are breached.
     >
     >    The Libertarian Party encourages it's affiliates to consider
     similar
     >    resolution. Liberty is a precious gift that require eternal
     > vigilance.
     >
     >    In Liberty,
     >    Mark Kibler
     >
     >    --
     >
     >    Richard Longstreth
     >    Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT,
     WA, WY)
     >    Libertarian National Committee
     >    [3][4]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >    931.538.9300
     >
     > References
     >
     >    1. mailto:[5]mkibler160 at gmail.com
     >    2. mailto:[6]Richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >    3. mailto:[7]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >
     > References
     >
     >    1. tel:919-906-2106
     >    2. mailto:[8]lnc-business at hq.lp.org

   --

   --
   In Liberty,
   Caryn Ann Harlos
   Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
   - [9]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
   Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
   A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
   We defend your rights
   And oppose the use of force
   Taxation is theft

References

   1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   2. mailto:mkibler160 at gmail.com
   3. mailto:Richard.longstreth at lp.org
   4. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
   5. mailto:mkibler160 at gmail.com
   6. mailto:Richard.longstreth at lp.org
   7. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
   8. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   9. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org


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