[Lnc-business] Seeking Co-Sponsors for Resolution to Re-Affirm The LP's Stance For Property Rights
Elizabeth Van Horn
elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
Tue Aug 14 15:29:35 EDT 2018
Then why not a resolution saying that the LNC stands in support of our
LP platform? Because, I think it's pretty obvious that we do.
(Although, I know that the Radical caucus, Mises caucus, and libsocs,
all have their *own* platforms. I support our LP platform, and that's a
founding point of the caucus I'm in, that we don't have a separate
platform, we instead embrace the LP platform.
Do all the board members in various caucuses want to come out in favor
of the *LP Platform*? I like to see that resolution.
---
Elizabeth Van Horn
On 2018-08-14 15:07, Justin O'Donnell via Lnc-business wrote:
> This resolution is an affirmation of that platform and it's underlying
> principles. It serves simply to acknowledge rhetoric contrary to our
> platform and affirm that the Libertarian Party stands by the messaging
> and platform adopted by it's delegates in convention, as opposed to
> those who would argue otherwise. It does not purge anyone, but simply
> distances the LP from their economic views. They are members, and many
> will remain so, but the resolution is to affirm that their outspoken
> beliefs do not represent the party as a whole. Some of these
> individual members are even candidates in profiled races, where they
> are espousing ideas contrary to our platform, and it is incumbent upon
> this body to recognize that this is a risk to the integrity of our
> messaging. An individual or a candidate may proclaim whatever platform
> they wish, but when they claim that it is representative of
> Libertarian Ideology when it is clearly contrary to our platform and
> statement of principles, it requires an acknowledgement from the LNC.
>
> ---
> Yours in Liberty,
>
> Justin O'Donnell
> LNC Region 8 Representative
> LPNH Alternate- LNC Platform Committee
> Chair- LPNH Platform Committee
> Candidate for US Congress, NH-2
> www.odonnell2018.org
>
> On 2018-08-14 15:01, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business wrote:
>> We have a platform that states what we stand for, and you were the
>> platform committee chair for 2018. I was on that committee, as
>> were
>> several other members of this board.
>> Did we not do our duty? Did we leave the platform to be ambiguous
>> and
>> confusing? I don't think so.
>> Our wonderful LP platform speaks for the LP, and tells prospective
>> members where we stand. We educate from that document, and I know
>> that you understand this, as you were instrumental in doing
>> platform
>> plank posts on social media. You know that the platform speaks for
>> us
>> on issues of property rights.
>>
>> ---
>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>>
>> On 2018-08-14 14:55, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>
>> It is quite problematic that stating the Party's foundational
>> Principles is controversial or thought to need a platform change.
>>
>>
>>
>> We have gone far from our roots.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Caryn Ann
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 12:51 PM Elizabeth Van Horn via
>> Lnc-business
>> <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> I also would have supported the first effort (with my language
>> changes)
>> as it was a clear support of capitalism. Too bad that wasn't
>> embraced.
>> On this list I've seen multiple times someone talk about past
>> actions as
>> a reason, (we denounced that, so why not this?) the more times I
>> see,
>> the more this looks like a grudge match.
>> As the players in this drama, and yes it's a big drama on social
>> media,
>> are ones that have had an ongoing war-of-words with the targets
>> of
>> this
>> suggested resolution. Only, some of the players also happen to
>> be
>> on
>> the LNC, and are now using that position to escalate.
>> I was willing to support a resolution that embraced capitalism,
>> as I
>> live my life as a capitalist. It is my economic system of choice,
>> and I
>> make an effort to teach this to others.
>> Too bad this isn't about championing the wonderful economic
>> system
>> of
>> capitalism, but instead is about targeting a few noisy LP
>> members.
>> ---
>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>> On 2018-08-14 14:26, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business wrote:
>> > This is not the same language as was presented and discussed
>> earlier.
>> > Just to clarify for people who may just be skimming.
>> > I probably would have gone along with the first. This one
>> is
>> toxic
>> > and
>> > the language clearly meant to be be a purge.
>> > If it was just a supporting of property rights I would
>> absolutely
>> > support it. This is far more than that, and honestly far
>> exceeds
>> > the
>> > scope of the duties of this body. It is a direct change to
>> policy
>> > seriously impacts current members and activists.
>> > If you want a platform change take it to Austin. That is not
>> our
>> > job.
>> > I will be voting no on this, and urge everyone else to
>> seriously
>> > consider whether they support a precedent of purging groups.
>> Not to
>> > mention how many of you during the JC discussion were
>> treading
>> very
>> > carefully about not exceeding our scope, a point that was
>> well
>> taken
>> > after reflection, will you be consistent here?
>> > John Phillips
>> > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>> > Cell [1]217-412-5973
>> >
>> > ------ Original message------
>> > From: Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business
>> > Date: Tue, Aug 14, 2018 10:50 AM
>> > To: LNC-Business List;
>> > Cc: Steven Nekhaila;
>> > Subject:[Lnc-business] Seeking Co-Sponsors for Resolution to
>> > Re-Affirm
>> > The LP's Stance For Property Rights
>> > Dear Colleagues,
>> >
>> > I invite you to co-sponsor the following resolution which
>> disavows
>> > socialist & communist policies and re-affirms the Libertarian
>> Party
>> > position on championing property rights.
>> >
>> > Co-Sponsors: Joshua Smith, Justin O'Donnel, and Caryn Ann
>> Harlos
>> >
>> > WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party supports the free market and
>> therefore
>> > the right of privatization of property as an extension of the
>> > individual;
>> >
>> > WHEREAS, the Statement of Principles of The Libertarian Party
>> > explicitly
>> > supports the right to private property ownership, including the
>> right
>> > to
>> > do business utilizing that property as capital;
>> >
>> > WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party strongly supports the rights of
>> > individuals to own private property including land, structures,
>> natural
>> > resources and other private space through homesteading,
>> purchase,
>> and
>> > other lawful libertarian means;
>> >
>> > WHEREAS, ownership of private property, including but not
>> limited
>> to
>> > land and housing, does not require continual or personal use to
>> exist
>> > as
>> > justly owned property unless otherwise abandoned;
>> >
>> > WHEREAS, these have been part of the principles of the
>> Libertarian
>> > Party
>> > since its inception;
>> >
>> > THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that socialist and communist
>> property
>> > ownership schemes, including the collectivization of property,
>> unlawful
>> > usurpation of property, and incorrect characterizations of
>> private
>> > property, unless otherwise voluntarily agreed by all parties,
>> are
>> > incompatible with the philosophy of the Libertarian Party.
>> >
>> >
>> > In Liberty,
>> >
>> > Steven Nekhaila
>> > Region 2 Representative
>> > Libertarian National Committee
>> >
>> > Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt
>> > "Those without power cannot defend freedom"
>> >
>> > References
>> >
>> > 1. tel:217-412-5973
>>
>> --
>>
>> --
>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
>> - [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> We defend your rights
>> And oppose the use of force
>> Taxation is theft
>>
>> References
>>
>> 1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 2. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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