[Lnc-business] Seeking Co-Sponsors for Resolution to Re-Affirm The LP's Stance For Property Rights

Caryn Ann Harlos caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Wed Aug 15 01:21:05 EDT 2018


That statement of Nolan has conditions attached.  NON-AGRESSION which
depends on property rights.

Do I need to find for you the huge number of times he condemned socialism?

In LPNEWS ISSUE NUMBER 1 he denounced left economics.

-Caryn Ann


On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 10:39 PM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

>    Well said sir
>    John Phillips
>    Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>    Cell [1]217-412-5973
>
>    ------ Original message------
>    From: Jeff Lyons via Lnc-business
>    Date: Tue, Aug 14, 2018 5:08 PM
>    To: [2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
>    Cc: Jeff Lyons;
>    Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Seeking Co-Sponsors for Resolution to
>    Re-Affirm The LP's Stance For Property Rights
> Good Afternoon,
>
>       There are a bunch of different threads on this whole property
> rights vs. libsoc thing. I don't get where these discussions are going,
> I'm not going to go through it and as an Alternate my vote won't decide
> anything anyways.  I just think this is a completely fruitless effort, a
> waste of time, and of brainpower.
>
>       Some Libertarians have good ideas, some have bad ideas.  The answer
> is MORE speech, more dialogue, more ideas, and the good ideas will
> always win eventually.  People are smart enough to decide for themselves
> if socialism can be voluntary or if property should be personally /
> privately owned.  Let them debate it all they want.  I don't think
> anyone who can't make a serious case for whatever their ideology is will
> last long before they learn something new and inevitably evolve their
> position.  Libertarians don't have to agree on everything and I don't
> think we should bother trying to force them to get along.  The people
> will figure it out on their own, through their discussions.
>
>       I respectfully disagree there is even a need for US to have this
> discussion and vote no on whatever the resolution is because I don't
> think we really need one. At all. Ever.  That's not our job.
>
> --
> In Liberty,
> Jeff Lyons
>
> Region 8 Alternate
> (Acting Region 8 Rep)
>
> Libertarian Assoc. of MA
> Membership Director
> [3]http://www.lpmass.org/join
>
> Daniel Fishman for Auditor
> Campaign Manager
> [4]http://www.AuditMassachusetts.com
>
>
>
> On [5]2018-08-14 15:37, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business wrote:
> > BS.
> >    (all about brevity ; )
> >
> >    ---
> >    Elizabeth Van Horn
> >
> >    On [6]2018-08-14 15:34, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> >
> >    The brevity caucus keeps the exegesis of our Platform out.
> >
> >
> >
> >    It becomes necessary to apply and explicate.
> >
> >
> >
> >    -Caryn Ann
> >
> >
> >
> >    On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 1:29 PM Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business
> >    <[1[7]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> >      Then why not a resolution saying that the LNC stands in support of
> >      our
> >      LP platform?  Because, I think it's pretty obvious that we do.
> >      (Although, I know that the Radical caucus, Mises caucus, and
> >      libsocs,
> >      all have their *own* platforms.  I support our LP platform, and
> >      that's a
> >      founding point of the caucus I'm in, that we don't have a separate
> >      platform, we instead embrace the LP platform.
> >      Do all the board members in various caucuses want to come out in
> >      favor
> >      of the *LP Platform*?  I like to see that resolution.
> >      ---
> >      Elizabeth Van Horn
> >      On [8]2018-08-14 15:07, Justin O'Donnell via Lnc-business wrote:
> >      > This resolution is an affirmation of that platform and it's
> >      underlying
> >      > principles. It serves simply to acknowledge rhetoric contrary to
> >      our
> >      > platform and affirm that the Libertarian Party stands by the
> >      messaging
> >      > and platform adopted by it's delegates in convention, as opposed
> >      to
> >      > those who would argue otherwise. It does not purge anyone, but
> >      simply
> >      > distances the LP from their economic views. They are members,
> > and
> >      many
> >      > will remain so, but the resolution is to affirm that their
> >      outspoken
> >      > beliefs do not represent the party as a whole. Some of these
> >      > individual members are even candidates in profiled races, where
> >      they
> >      > are espousing ideas contrary to our platform, and it is
> > incumbent
> >      upon
> >      > this body to recognize that this is a risk to the integrity of
> > our
> >      > messaging. An individual or a candidate may proclaim whatever
> >      platform
> >      > they wish, but when they claim that it is representative of
> >      > Libertarian Ideology when it is clearly contrary to our platform
> >      and
> >      > statement of principles, it requires an acknowledgement from the
> >      LNC.
> >      >
> >      > ---
> >      > Yours in Liberty,
> >      >
> >      > Justin O'Donnell
> >      > LNC Region 8 Representative
> >      > LPNH Alternate- LNC Platform Committee
> >      > Chair- LPNH Platform Committee
> >      > Candidate for US Congress, NH-2
> >      > [2][9]www.odonnell2018.org
> >      >
> >      > On [10]2018-08-14 15:01, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business
> wrote:
> >      >> We have a platform that states what we stand for, and you were
> >      the
> >      >>    platform committee chair for 2018.  I was on that committee,
> >      as
> >      >> were
> >      >>    several other members of this board.
> >      >>    Did we not do our duty?  Did we leave the platform to be
> >      ambiguous
> >      >> and
> >      >>    confusing?  I don't think so.
> >      >>    Our wonderful LP platform speaks for the LP, and tells
> >      prospective
> >      >>    members where we stand.   We educate from that document, and
> > I
> >      know
> >      >>    that you understand this, as you were instrumental in doing
> >      >> platform
> >      >>    plank posts on social media.  You know that the platform
> >      speaks for
> >      >> us
> >      >>    on issues of property rights.
> >      >>
> >      >>    ---
> >      >>    Elizabeth Van Horn
> >      >>
> >      >>    On [11]2018-08-14 14:55, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> >      >>
> >      >>    It is quite problematic that stating the Party's
> > foundational
> >      >>    Principles is controversial or thought to need a platform
> >      change.
> >      >>
> >      >>
> >      >>
> >      >>    We have gone far from our roots.
> >      >>
> >      >>
> >      >>
> >      >>    -Caryn Ann
> >      >>
> >      >>
> >      >>
> >      >>    On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 12:51 PM Elizabeth Van Horn via
> >      >> Lnc-business
> >      >>    <[1][3[12]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >      >>
> >      >>      I also would have supported the first effort (with my
> >      language
> >      >>      changes)
> >      >>      as it was a clear support of capitalism.  Too bad that
> >      wasn't
> >      >>      embraced.
> >      >>      On this list I've seen multiple times someone talk about
> >      past
> >      >>      actions as
> >      >>      a reason, (we denounced that, so why not this?) the more
> >      times I
> >      >>      see,
> >      >>      the more this looks like a grudge match.
> >      >>      As the players in this drama, and yes it's a big drama on
> >      social
> >      >>      media,
> >      >>      are ones that have had an ongoing war-of-words with the
> >      targets
> >      >> of
> >      >>      this
> >      >>      suggested resolution.  Only, some of the players also
> > happen
> >      to
> >      >> be
> >      >>      on
> >      >>      the LNC, and are now using that position to escalate.
> >      >>      I was willing to support a resolution that embraced
> >      capitalism,
> >      >> as I
> >      >>      live my life as a capitalist. It is my economic system of
> >      choice,
> >      >>      and I
> >      >>      make an effort to teach this to others.
> >      >>      Too bad this isn't about championing the wonderful
> > economic
> >      >> system
> >      >>      of
> >      >>      capitalism, but instead is about targeting a few noisy LP
> >      >> members.
> >      >>      ---
> >      >>      Elizabeth Van Horn
> >      >>      On [13]2018-08-14 14:26, [14]john.phillips--- via
> Lnc-business
> >      wrote:
> >      >>      > This is not the same language as was presented and
> >      discussed
> >      >>      earlier.
> >      >>      >    Just to clarify for people who may just be skimming.
> >      >>      >    I probably would have gone along with the first.
> > This
> >      one
> >      >> is
> >      >>      toxic
> >      >>      > and
> >      >>      >    the language clearly meant to be be a purge.
> >      >>      >    If it was just a supporting of property rights I
> > would
> >      >>      absolutely
> >      >>      >    support it.  This is far more than that, and honestly
> >      far
> >      >>      exceeds
> >      >>      > the
> >      >>      >    scope of the duties of this body.  It is a direct
> >      change to
> >      >>      policy
> >      >>      >    seriously impacts current members and activists.
> >      >>      >    If you want a platform change take it to Austin. That
> >      is not
> >      >>      our
> >      >>      > job.
> >      >>      >    I will be voting no on this, and urge everyone else
> > to
> >      >>      seriously
> >      >>      >    consider whether they support a precedent of purging
> >      groups.
> >      >>      Not to
> >      >>      >    mention how many of you during the JC discussion were
> >      >> treading
> >      >>      very
> >      >>      >    carefully about not exceeding our scope, a point that
> >      was
> >      >> well
> >      >>      taken
> >      >>      >    after reflection, will you be consistent here?
> >      >>      >    John Phillips
> >      >>      >    Libertarian National Committee Region 6
> > Representative
> >      >>      >    Cell [1][15]217-412-5973
> >      >>      >
> >      >>      >    ------ Original message------
> >      >>      >    From: Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business
> >      >>      >    Date: Tue, Aug 14, 2018 10:50 AM
> >      >>      >    To: LNC-Business List;
> >      >>      >    Cc: Steven Nekhaila;
> >      >>      >    Subject:[Lnc-business] Seeking Co-Sponsors for
> >      Resolution to
> >      >>      > Re-Affirm
> >      >>      >    The LP's Stance For Property Rights
> >      >>      > Dear Colleagues,
> >      >>      >
> >      >>      > I invite you to co-sponsor the following resolution
> > which
> >      >> disavows
> >      >>      > socialist & communist policies and re-affirms the
> >      Libertarian
> >      >>      Party
> >      >>      > position on championing property rights.
> >      >>      >
> >      >>      > Co-Sponsors: Joshua Smith, Justin O'Donnel, and Caryn
> > Ann
> >      >> Harlos
> >      >>      >
> >      >>      > WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party supports the free market
> >      and
> >      >>      therefore
> >      >>      > the right of privatization of property as an extension
> > of
> >      the
> >      >>      > individual;
> >      >>      >
> >      >>      > WHEREAS, the Statement of Principles of The Libertarian
> >      Party
> >      >>      > explicitly
> >      >>      > supports the right to private property ownership,
> >      including the
> >      >>      right
> >      >>      > to
> >      >>      > do business utilizing that property as capital;
> >      >>      >
> >      >>      > WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party strongly supports the
> >      rights of
> >      >>      > individuals to own private property including land,
> >      structures,
> >      >>      natural
> >      >>      > resources and other private space through homesteading,
> >      >> purchase,
> >      >>      and
> >      >>      > other lawful libertarian means;
> >      >>      >
> >      >>      > WHEREAS, ownership of private property, including but
> > not
> >      >> limited
> >      >>      to
> >      >>      > land and housing, does not require continual or personal
> >      use to
> >      >>      exist
> >      >>      > as
> >      >>      > justly owned property unless otherwise abandoned;
> >      >>      >
> >      >>      > WHEREAS, these have been part of the principles of the
> >      >> Libertarian
> >      >>      > Party
> >      >>      > since its inception;
> >      >>      >
> >      >>      > THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that socialist and communist
> >      >> property
> >      >>      > ownership schemes, including the collectivization of
> >      property,
> >      >>      unlawful
> >      >>      > usurpation of property, and incorrect characterizations
> > of
> >      >> private
> >      >>      > property, unless otherwise voluntarily agreed by all
> >      parties,
> >      >> are
> >      >>      > incompatible with the philosophy of the Libertarian
> > Party.
> >      >>      >
> >      >>      >
> >      >>      > In Liberty,
> >      >>      >
> >      >>      > Steven Nekhaila
> >      >>      > Region 2 Representative
> >      >>      > Libertarian National Committee
> >      >>      >
> >      >>      > Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt
> >      >>      > "Those without power cannot defend freedom"
> >      >>      >
> >      >>      > References
> >      >>      >
> >      >>      >    1. tel:[16]217-412-5973
> >      >>
> >      >>      --
> >      >>
> >      >>    --
> >      >>    In Liberty,
> >      >>    Caryn Ann Harlos
> >      >>    Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
> > Secretary
> >      >>    - [2][17]Caryn.Ann.[18] Harlos at LP.org or[19]
> Secretary at LP.org.
> >      >>    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[20]
> LPedia at LP.org
> >      >>
> >      >>    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> >      >>    We defend your rights
> >      >>    And oppose the use of force
> >      >>    Taxation is theft
> >      >>
> >      >> References
> >      >>
> >      >>    1. mailto:[4[21]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >      >>    2. mailto:[5[22]]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >
> >      --
> >
> >    --
> >    In Liberty,
> >    Caryn Ann Harlos
> >    Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
> >    - [6][23]Caryn.Ann.[24] Harlos at LP.org or[25] Secretary at LP.org.
> >    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[26] LPedia at LP.org
> >
> >    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> >    We defend your rights
> >    And oppose the use of force
> >    Taxation is theft
> >
> > References
> >
> >    1. mailto[27]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >    2. [28]http://www.odonnell2018.org/
> >    3. mailto[29]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >    4. mailto[30]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >    5. mailto[31]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >    6. mailto[32]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>
> References
>
>    1. tel:217-412-5973
>    2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>    3. http://www.lpmass.org/join
>    4. http://www.AuditMassachusetts.com/
>    5. tel:2018-08-14 15
>    6. tel:2018-08-14 15
>    7. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>    8. tel:2018-08-14 15
>    9. http://www.odonnell2018.org/
>   10. tel:2018-08-14 15
>   11. tel:2018-08-14 14
>   12. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>   13. tel:2018-08-14 14
>   14. http://john.ph/
>   15. tel:217-412-5973
>   16. tel:217-412-5973
>   17. http://Caryn.An/
>   18. mailto: Harlos at LP.org
>   19. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
>   20. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
>   21. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>   22. mailto:]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>   23. http://Caryn.An/
>   24. mailto: Harlos at LP.org
>   25. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
>   26. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
>   27. mailto::lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>   28. http://www.odonnell2018.org/
>   29. mailto::lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>   30. mailto::lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>   31. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>   32. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>
-- 
-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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   That statement of Nolan has conditions attached.  NON-AGRESSION which
   depends on property rights.

   Do I need to find for you the huge number of times he condemned
   socialism?

   In LPNEWS ISSUE NUMBER 1 he denounced left economics.

   -Caryn Ann

   On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 10:39 PM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business
   <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

        Well said sir
        John Phillips
        Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
        Cell [1]217-412-5973
        ------ Original message------
        From: Jeff Lyons via Lnc-business
        Date: Tue, Aug 14, 2018 5:08 PM
        To: [2][2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
        Cc: Jeff Lyons;
        Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Seeking Co-Sponsors for Resolution to
        Re-Affirm The LP's Stance For Property Rights
     Good Afternoon,
           There are a bunch of different threads on this whole property
     rights vs. libsoc thing. I don't get where these discussions are
     going,
     I'm not going to go through it and as an Alternate my vote won't
     decide
     anything anyways.  I just think this is a completely fruitless
     effort, a
     waste of time, and of brainpower.
           Some Libertarians have good ideas, some have bad ideas.  The
     answer
     is MORE speech, more dialogue, more ideas, and the good ideas will
     always win eventually.  People are smart enough to decide for
     themselves
     if socialism can be voluntary or if property should be personally /
     privately owned.  Let them debate it all they want.  I don't think
     anyone who can't make a serious case for whatever their ideology is
     will
     last long before they learn something new and inevitably evolve
     their
     position.  Libertarians don't have to agree on everything and I
     don't
     think we should bother trying to force them to get along.  The
     people
     will figure it out on their own, through their discussions.
           I respectfully disagree there is even a need for US to have
     this
     discussion and vote no on whatever the resolution is because I don't
     think we really need one. At all. Ever.  That's not our job.
     --
     In Liberty,
     Jeff Lyons
     Region 8 Alternate
     (Acting Region 8 Rep)
     Libertarian Assoc. of MA
     Membership Director
     [3][3]http://www.lpmass.org/join
     Daniel Fishman for Auditor
     Campaign Manager
     [4][4]http://www.AuditMassachusetts.com
     On [5]2018-08-14 15:37, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business wrote:
     > BS.
     >    (all about brevity ; )
     >
     >    ---
     >    Elizabeth Van Horn
     >
     >    On [6]2018-08-14 15:34, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
     >
     >    The brevity caucus keeps the exegesis of our Platform out.
     >
     >
     >
     >    It becomes necessary to apply and explicate.
     >
     >
     >
     >    -Caryn Ann
     >
     >
     >
     >    On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 1:29 PM Elizabeth Van Horn via
     Lnc-business
     >    <[1[7]][5]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
     >
     >      Then why not a resolution saying that the LNC stands in
     support of
     >      our
     >      LP platform?  Because, I think it's pretty obvious that we
     do.
     >      (Although, I know that the Radical caucus, Mises caucus, and
     >      libsocs,
     >      all have their *own* platforms.  I support our LP platform,
     and
     >      that's a
     >      founding point of the caucus I'm in, that we don't have a
     separate
     >      platform, we instead embrace the LP platform.
     >      Do all the board members in various caucuses want to come out
     in
     >      favor
     >      of the *LP Platform*?  I like to see that resolution.
     >      ---
     >      Elizabeth Van Horn
     >      On [8]2018-08-14 15:07, Justin O'Donnell via Lnc-business
     wrote:
     >      > This resolution is an affirmation of that platform and it's
     >      underlying
     >      > principles. It serves simply to acknowledge rhetoric
     contrary to
     >      our
     >      > platform and affirm that the Libertarian Party stands by
     the
     >      messaging
     >      > and platform adopted by it's delegates in convention, as
     opposed
     >      to
     >      > those who would argue otherwise. It does not purge anyone,
     but
     >      simply
     >      > distances the LP from their economic views. They are
     members,
     > and
     >      many
     >      > will remain so, but the resolution is to affirm that their
     >      outspoken
     >      > beliefs do not represent the party as a whole. Some of
     these
     >      > individual members are even candidates in profiled races,
     where
     >      they
     >      > are espousing ideas contrary to our platform, and it is
     > incumbent
     >      upon
     >      > this body to recognize that this is a risk to the integrity
     of
     > our
     >      > messaging. An individual or a candidate may proclaim
     whatever
     >      platform
     >      > they wish, but when they claim that it is representative of
     >      > Libertarian Ideology when it is clearly contrary to our
     platform
     >      and
     >      > statement of principles, it requires an acknowledgement
     from the
     >      LNC.
     >      >
     >      > ---
     >      > Yours in Liberty,
     >      >
     >      > Justin O'Donnell
     >      > LNC Region 8 Representative
     >      > LPNH Alternate- LNC Platform Committee
     >      > Chair- LPNH Platform Committee
     >      > Candidate for US Congress, NH-2
     >      > [2][9][6]www.odonnell2018.org
     >      >
     >      > On [10]2018-08-14 15:01, Elizabeth Van Horn via
     Lnc-business wrote:
     >      >> We have a platform that states what we stand for, and you
     were
     >      the
     >      >>    platform committee chair for 2018.  I was on that
     committee,
     >      as
     >      >> were
     >      >>    several other members of this board.
     >      >>    Did we not do our duty?  Did we leave the platform to
     be
     >      ambiguous
     >      >> and
     >      >>    confusing?  I don't think so.
     >      >>    Our wonderful LP platform speaks for the LP, and tells
     >      prospective
     >      >>    members where we stand.   We educate from that
     document, and
     > I
     >      know
     >      >>    that you understand this, as you were instrumental in
     doing
     >      >> platform
     >      >>    plank posts on social media.  You know that the
     platform
     >      speaks for
     >      >> us
     >      >>    on issues of property rights.
     >      >>
     >      >>    ---
     >      >>    Elizabeth Van Horn
     >      >>
     >      >>    On [11]2018-08-14 14:55, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
     >      >>
     >      >>    It is quite problematic that stating the Party's
     > foundational
     >      >>    Principles is controversial or thought to need a
     platform
     >      change.
     >      >>
     >      >>
     >      >>
     >      >>    We have gone far from our roots.
     >      >>
     >      >>
     >      >>
     >      >>    -Caryn Ann
     >      >>
     >      >>
     >      >>
     >      >>    On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 12:51 PM Elizabeth Van Horn via
     >      >> Lnc-business
     >      >>    <[1][3[12]][7]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
     >      >>
     >      >>      I also would have supported the first effort (with my
     >      language
     >      >>      changes)
     >      >>      as it was a clear support of capitalism.  Too bad
     that
     >      wasn't
     >      >>      embraced.
     >      >>      On this list I've seen multiple times someone talk
     about
     >      past
     >      >>      actions as
     >      >>      a reason, (we denounced that, so why not this?) the
     more
     >      times I
     >      >>      see,
     >      >>      the more this looks like a grudge match.
     >      >>      As the players in this drama, and yes it's a big
     drama on
     >      social
     >      >>      media,
     >      >>      are ones that have had an ongoing war-of-words with
     the
     >      targets
     >      >> of
     >      >>      this
     >      >>      suggested resolution.  Only, some of the players also
     > happen
     >      to
     >      >> be
     >      >>      on
     >      >>      the LNC, and are now using that position to escalate.
     >      >>      I was willing to support a resolution that embraced
     >      capitalism,
     >      >> as I
     >      >>      live my life as a capitalist. It is my economic
     system of
     >      choice,
     >      >>      and I
     >      >>      make an effort to teach this to others.
     >      >>      Too bad this isn't about championing the wonderful
     > economic
     >      >> system
     >      >>      of
     >      >>      capitalism, but instead is about targeting a few
     noisy LP
     >      >> members.
     >      >>      ---
     >      >>      Elizabeth Van Horn
     >      >>      On [13]2018-08-14 14:26, [14]john.phillips--- via
     Lnc-business
     >      wrote:
     >      >>      > This is not the same language as was presented and
     >      discussed
     >      >>      earlier.
     >      >>      >    Just to clarify for people who may just be
     skimming.
     >      >>      >    I probably would have gone along with the first.
     > This
     >      one
     >      >> is
     >      >>      toxic
     >      >>      > and
     >      >>      >    the language clearly meant to be be a purge.
     >      >>      >    If it was just a supporting of property rights I
     > would
     >      >>      absolutely
     >      >>      >    support it.  This is far more than that, and
     honestly
     >      far
     >      >>      exceeds
     >      >>      > the
     >      >>      >    scope of the duties of this body.  It is a
     direct
     >      change to
     >      >>      policy
     >      >>      >    seriously impacts current members and activists.
     >      >>      >    If you want a platform change take it to Austin.
     That
     >      is not
     >      >>      our
     >      >>      > job.
     >      >>      >    I will be voting no on this, and urge everyone
     else
     > to
     >      >>      seriously
     >      >>      >    consider whether they support a precedent of
     purging
     >      groups.
     >      >>      Not to
     >      >>      >    mention how many of you during the JC discussion
     were
     >      >> treading
     >      >>      very
     >      >>      >    carefully about not exceeding our scope, a point
     that
     >      was
     >      >> well
     >      >>      taken
     >      >>      >    after reflection, will you be consistent here?
     >      >>      >    John Phillips
     >      >>      >    Libertarian National Committee Region 6
     > Representative
     >      >>      >    Cell [1][15]217-412-5973
     >      >>      >
     >      >>      >    ------ Original message------
     >      >>      >    From: Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business
     >      >>      >    Date: Tue, Aug 14, 2018 10:50 AM
     >      >>      >    To: LNC-Business List;
     >      >>      >    Cc: Steven Nekhaila;
     >      >>      >    Subject:[Lnc-business] Seeking Co-Sponsors for
     >      Resolution to
     >      >>      > Re-Affirm
     >      >>      >    The LP's Stance For Property Rights
     >      >>      > Dear Colleagues,
     >      >>      >
     >      >>      > I invite you to co-sponsor the following resolution
     > which
     >      >> disavows
     >      >>      > socialist & communist policies and re-affirms the
     >      Libertarian
     >      >>      Party
     >      >>      > position on championing property rights.
     >      >>      >
     >      >>      > Co-Sponsors: Joshua Smith, Justin O'Donnel, and
     Caryn
     > Ann
     >      >> Harlos
     >      >>      >
     >      >>      > WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party supports the free
     market
     >      and
     >      >>      therefore
     >      >>      > the right of privatization of property as an
     extension
     > of
     >      the
     >      >>      > individual;
     >      >>      >
     >      >>      > WHEREAS, the Statement of Principles of The
     Libertarian
     >      Party
     >      >>      > explicitly
     >      >>      > supports the right to private property ownership,
     >      including the
     >      >>      right
     >      >>      > to
     >      >>      > do business utilizing that property as capital;
     >      >>      >
     >      >>      > WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party strongly supports
     the
     >      rights of
     >      >>      > individuals to own private property including land,
     >      structures,
     >      >>      natural
     >      >>      > resources and other private space through
     homesteading,
     >      >> purchase,
     >      >>      and
     >      >>      > other lawful libertarian means;
     >      >>      >
     >      >>      > WHEREAS, ownership of private property, including
     but
     > not
     >      >> limited
     >      >>      to
     >      >>      > land and housing, does not require continual or
     personal
     >      use to
     >      >>      exist
     >      >>      > as
     >      >>      > justly owned property unless otherwise abandoned;
     >      >>      >
     >      >>      > WHEREAS, these have been part of the principles of
     the
     >      >> Libertarian
     >      >>      > Party
     >      >>      > since its inception;
     >      >>      >
     >      >>      > THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that socialist and
     communist
     >      >> property
     >      >>      > ownership schemes, including the collectivization
     of
     >      property,
     >      >>      unlawful
     >      >>      > usurpation of property, and incorrect
     characterizations
     > of
     >      >> private
     >      >>      > property, unless otherwise voluntarily agreed by
     all
     >      parties,
     >      >> are
     >      >>      > incompatible with the philosophy of the Libertarian
     > Party.
     >      >>      >
     >      >>      >
     >      >>      > In Liberty,
     >      >>      >
     >      >>      > Steven Nekhaila
     >      >>      > Region 2 Representative
     >      >>      > Libertarian National Committee
     >      >>      >
     >      >>      > Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt
     >      >>      > "Those without power cannot defend freedom"
     >      >>      >
     >      >>      > References
     >      >>      >
     >      >>      >    1. tel:[16]217-412-5973
     >      >>
     >      >>      --
     >      >>
     >      >>    --
     >      >>    In Liberty,
     >      >>    Caryn Ann Harlos
     >      >>    Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
     > Secretary
     >      >>    - [2][17]Caryn.Ann.[18] Harlos at LP.org or[19]
     Secretary at LP.org.
     >      >>    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[20]
     LPedia at LP.org
     >      >>
     >      >>    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
     >      >>    We defend your rights
     >      >>    And oppose the use of force
     >      >>    Taxation is theft
     >      >>
     >      >> References
     >      >>
     >      >>    1. mailto:[4[21]][8]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >      >>    2. mailto:[5[22]]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >
     >      --
     >
     >    --
     >    In Liberty,
     >    Caryn Ann Harlos
     >    Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
     >    - [6][23]Caryn.Ann.[24] Harlos at LP.org or[25] Secretary at LP.org.
     >    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[26] LPedia at LP.org
     >
     >    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
     >    We defend your rights
     >    And oppose the use of force
     >    Taxation is theft
     >
     > References
     >
     >    1. mailto[27]:[9]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >    2. [28][10]http://www.odonnell2018.org/
     >    3. mailto[29]:[11]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >    4. mailto[30]:[12]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >    5. mailto[31]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >    6. mailto[32]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     References
        1. tel:217-412-5973
        2. mailto:[13]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
        3. [14]http://www.lpmass.org/join
        4. [15]http://www.AuditMassachusetts.com/
        5. tel:2018-08-14 15
        6. tel:2018-08-14 15
        7. mailto:][16]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
        8. tel:2018-08-14 15
        9. [17]http://www.odonnell2018.org/
       10. tel:2018-08-14 15
       11. tel:2018-08-14 14
       12. mailto:][18]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
       13. tel:2018-08-14 14
       14. [19]http://john.ph/
       15. tel:217-412-5973
       16. tel:217-412-5973
       17. [20]http://Caryn.An/
       18. mailto: Harlos at LP.org
       19. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
       20. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
       21. mailto:][21]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
       22. mailto:]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
       23. [22]http://Caryn.An/
       24. mailto: Harlos at LP.org
       25. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
       26. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
       27. mailto::[23]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
       28. [24]http://www.odonnell2018.org/
       29. mailto::[25]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
       30. mailto::[26]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
       31. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
       32. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org

   --

   --
   In Liberty,
   Caryn Ann Harlos
   Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
   - [27]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
   Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
   A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
   We defend your rights
   And oppose the use of force
   Taxation is theft

References

   1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   3. http://www.lpmass.org/join
   4. http://www.AuditMassachusetts.com/
   5. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   6. http://www.odonnell2018.org/
   7. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   8. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   9. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  10. http://www.odonnell2018.org/
  11. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  12. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  13. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  14. http://www.lpmass.org/join
  15. http://www.AuditMassachusetts.com/
  16. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  17. http://www.odonnell2018.org/
  18. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  19. http://john.ph/
  20. http://Caryn.An/
  21. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  22. http://Caryn.An/
  23. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  24. http://www.odonnell2018.org/
  25. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  26. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  27. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org


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