[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-22: PROPERTY RIGHTS RESOLUTION

Susan Hogarth susan.hogarth at lp.org
Thu Aug 16 08:23:10 EDT 2018


      
  

 Please stop this. It is -incredibly- rude and destructive.
  

  
I don’t know what’s worse - the people saying that the supporters of this resolution are calling for a purge, or the people saying that those who oppose it don’t support the Party’s principles.   
  

  
A resolution may sound like a straightforward declaration of principle, but they are always issued for strategic reasons. The fact that some people disagree with your strategy does not mean they oppose your principles or indeed even goals. It’s very destructive to behave as if they do.   
  

  
Give the reasons for your preferred strategy. Argue passionately for it. But stop accusing your allies of being your enemies.   
  

  
  
  
  Susan Jane Hogarth
  
  Region 5 Alternate
  
  919-906-2106 (tel:919-906-2106)
  
  
  
  

  
  
>   
> On Aug 16, 2018 at 8:01 AM,  <Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business (mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org)>  wrote:
>   
>   
>   
>  But not enough to vote in favor of affirming them? I'm confused...  
>
>  Richard  
>  On Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 22:58 Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business  
>   <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org>  wrote:  
>
>  I vote No.  
>  The LP Platform and Statement of Principles clearly illustrate our  
>  position on Property Rights and I fully support them.  
>  ---  
>  Sam Goldstein  
>  Libertarian National Committee  
>  317-850-0726 Cell  
>  On 2018-08-15 06:23, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:  
>   >  BALLOT CORRECTION: Expiration date is AUGUST 22, 2018.  
>   >  My mind has been left in July. September will really throw it  
>  for a  
>   >  loop.  
>   >   
>   >  On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 3:56 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos  
>   >   <[1][2]carynannharlos at gmail.com>  wrote:  
>   >   
>   >  We have an electronic mail ballot.  
>   >   
>   >  Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 22, 2018 at  
>   >  11:59:59pm  
>   >  Pacific time.  
>   >   
>   >  Co-Sponsors: Caryn Ann Harlos, Richard Longstreth, Steven  
>  Nekhaila,  
>   >  Justin O’Donnell, Joshua Smith  
>   >   
>   >  Motion: Move to adopt the following resolution:  
>   >   
>   >  WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party supports the free market and  
>   >  therefore  
>   >  the right of privatization of property as an extension of the  
>   >  individual;  
>   >   
>   >  WHEREAS, the Statement of Principles of The Libertarian Party  
>   >  explicitly supports the right to private property ownership,  
>   >  including  
>   >  the right to do business utilizing that property as capital;  
>   >   
>   >  WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party strongly supports the rights of  
>   >  individuals to own private property including land, structures,  
>   >  natural  
>   >  resources and other private space through homesteading,  
>  purchase,  
>   >  and  
>   >  other lawful libertarian means;  
>   >   
>   >  WHEREAS, ownership of private property, including but not  
>  limited to  
>   >  land and housing, does not require continual or personal use to  
>   >  exist  
>   >  as justly owned property unless otherwise abandoned;  
>   >   
>   >  WHEREAS, these have been part of the principles of the  
>  Libertarian  
>   >  Party since its inception;  
>   >   
>   >  THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that socialist and communist  
>  property  
>   >  ownership schemes, including the collectivization of property,  
>   >  unlawful  
>   >  usurpation of property, and incorrect characterizations of  
>  private  
>   >  property, unless otherwise voluntarily agreed by all parties,  
>  are  
>   >  incompatible with the philosophy of the Libertarian Party.  
>   >   
>   >  =============================================  
>   >   
>   >  Important Bylaws note:  
>   >   
>   >  Resolutions require passage by 3/4 vote as follows:  
>   >   
>   >  Article 7:  
>   >   
>   >  ***  
>   >   
>   >  The National Committee may adopt public policy resolutions by a  
>  ¾  
>   >  vote  
>   >  with previous notice or by unanimous consent without previous  
>   >  notice.  
>   >   
>   >  =============================================  
>   >   
>   >  You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes  
>  here:  
>   >  [2][3]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting. Votes are noted with a  
>  link to  
>   >  the  
>   >  actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that  
>  the  
>   >  manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.  
>   >   
>   >  Please notify me of any discrepancies.  
>   >  --  
>   >  In Liberty,  
>   >  Caryn Ann Harlos  
>   >  Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary  
>  -  
>   >  [3]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.  
>   >  Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org  
>   >  A haiku to the Statement of Principles:  
>   >  We defend your rights  
>   >  And oppose the use of force  
>   >  Taxation is theft  
>   >   
>   >  --  
>   >  In Liberty,  
>   >  Caryn Ann Harlos  
>   >  Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary  
>  -  
>   >  [4]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.  
>   >  Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org  
>   >  A haiku to the Statement of Principles:  
>   >  We defend your rights  
>   >  And oppose the use of force  
>   >  Taxation is theft  
>   >   
>   >  References  
>   >   
>   >  1. mailto:[4]carynannharlos at gmail.com  
>   >  2. [5]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting  
>   >  3. mailto:[6]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org  
>   >  4. mailto:[7]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org  
>
>  --  
>
>  Richard Longstreth  
>  Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY)  
>  Libertarian National Committee  
>  [8]richard.longstreth at lp.org  
>  931.538.9300  
>
> References  
>
>  1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org  
>  2. mailto:carynannharlos at gmail.com  
>  3. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting  
>  4. mailto:carynannharlos at gmail.com  
>  5. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting  
>  6. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org  
>  7. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org  
>  8. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org  
>
>                
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   Please stop this. It is -incredibly- rude and destructive.

   I don’t know what’s worse - the people saying that the supporters of
   this resolution are calling for a purge, or the people saying that
   those who oppose it don’t support the Party’s principles.

   A resolution may sound like a straightforward declaration of principle,
   but they are always issued for strategic reasons. The fact that some
   people disagree with your strategy does not mean they oppose your
   principles or indeed even goals. It’s very destructive to behave as if
   they do.

   Give the reasons for your preferred strategy. Argue passionately for
   it. But stop accusing your allies of being your enemies.

   Susan Jane Hogarth

   Region 5 Alternate

   [1]919-906-2106

   On Aug 16, 2018 at 8:01 AM, <[2]Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business>
   wrote:

   But not enough to vote in favor of affirming them? I'm confused...

   Richard
   On Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 22:58 Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business
   <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

     I vote No.
     The LP Platform and Statement of Principles clearly illustrate our
     position on Property Rights and I fully support them.
     ---
     Sam Goldstein
     Libertarian National Committee
     317-850-0726 Cell
     On 2018-08-15 06:23, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
     > BALLOT CORRECTION:  Expiration date is AUGUST 22, 2018.
     >    My mind has been left in July.  September will really throw it
     for a
     >    loop.
     >
     >    On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 3:56 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
     >    <[1][2]carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
     >
     >    We have an electronic mail ballot.
     >
     >    Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 22, 2018 at
     > 11:59:59pm
     >    Pacific time.
     >
     >    Co-Sponsors:  Caryn Ann Harlos, Richard Longstreth, Steven
     Nekhaila,
     >    Justin O’Donnell, Joshua Smith
     >
     >    Motion: Move to adopt the following resolution:
     >
     >    WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party supports the free market and
     > therefore
     >    the right of privatization of property as an extension of the
     >    individual;
     >
     >    WHEREAS, the Statement of Principles of The Libertarian Party
     >    explicitly supports the right to private property ownership,
     > including
     >    the right to do business utilizing that property as capital;
     >
     >    WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party strongly supports the rights of
     >    individuals to own private property including land, structures,
     > natural
     >    resources and other private space through homesteading,
     purchase,
     > and
     >    other lawful libertarian means;
     >
     >    WHEREAS, ownership of private property, including but not
     limited to
     >    land and housing, does not require continual or personal use to
     > exist
     >    as justly owned property unless otherwise abandoned;
     >
     >    WHEREAS, these have been part of the principles of the
     Libertarian
     >    Party since its inception;
     >
     >    THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that socialist and communist
     property
     >    ownership schemes, including the collectivization of property,
     > unlawful
     >    usurpation of property, and incorrect characterizations of
     private
     >    property, unless otherwise voluntarily agreed by all parties,
     are
     >    incompatible with the philosophy of the Libertarian Party.
     >
     >    =============================================
     >
     >    Important Bylaws note:
     >
     >    Resolutions require passage by 3/4 vote as follows:
     >
     >    Article 7:
     >
     >    ***
     >
     >    The National Committee may adopt public policy resolutions by a
     ¾
     > vote
     >    with previous notice or by unanimous consent without previous
     > notice.
     >
     >    =============================================
     >
     >    You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes
     here:
     >    [2][3]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting.  Votes are noted with a
     link to
     > the
     >    actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that
     the
     >    manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
     >
     >    Please notify me of any discrepancies.
     >    --
     >    In Liberty,
     >    Caryn Ann Harlos
     >    Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
     -
     >    [3]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
     >    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
     >    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
     >    We defend your rights
     >    And oppose the use of force
     >    Taxation is theft
     >
     >    --
     >    In Liberty,
     >    Caryn Ann Harlos
     >    Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
     -
     >    [4]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
     >    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
     >    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
     >    We defend your rights
     >    And oppose the use of force
     >    Taxation is theft
     >
     > References
     >
     >    1. mailto:[4]carynannharlos at gmail.com
     >    2. [5]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
     >    3. mailto:[6]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >    4. mailto:[7]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org

   --

   Richard Longstreth
   Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY)
   Libertarian National Committee
   [8]richard.longstreth at lp.org
   931.538.9300

References

   1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   2. mailto:carynannharlos at gmail.com
   3. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
   4. mailto:carynannharlos at gmail.com
   5. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
   6. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
   7. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
   8. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org

References

   1. tel:919-906-2106
   2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org


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