[Lnc-business] (Partial) mirror of backchannel discussion
Susan Hogarth
susan.hogarth at lp.org
Fri Aug 17 05:47:14 EDT 2018
FACEBOOK GROUP REPOST
(I’m leaving out lots of chatter in favor of substance. I hope to see the substantive discussion move back here)
John Phillips Jr wrote
Too long. As I said on the mailing list.
"We affirm 2.1 of the plank, recognizing property rights, therefore Rent agreed on voluntarily without state interference is not Theft" is enough
Susan Jane Hogarth
Region 5 Alternate
919-906-2106 (tel:919-906-2106)
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> On Aug 17, 2018 at 5:45 AM, <Susan Hogarth via Lnc-business (mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org)> wrote:
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> Joshua Smith wrote (adding ‘there. Ship it.’ afterward)
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> WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party supports the free market and therefore
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> the right of privatization of property as an extension of the
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> individual;
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> WHEREAS, the Statement of Principles of The Libertarian Party
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> explicitly supports the right to private property ownership, including
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> the right to do business utilizing that property as capital;
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> WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party strongly supports the rights of
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> individuals to own private property including land, structures, natural
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> resources and other private space through homesteading, purchase, and
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> other lawful libertarian means;
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> WHEREAS, ownership of private property, including but not limited to
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> land and housing, does not require continual or personal use to exist
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> as justly owned property unless otherwise abandoned;
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> WHEREAS, these have been part of the principles of the Libertarian
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> Party since its inception;
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> THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that socialist and communist property
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> ownership schemes, including the collectivization of property, Naturally unlawful
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> usurpation of property, and incorrect characterizations of private
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> property, unless otherwise voluntarily agreed by all parties, are
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> incompatible with the philosophy of the Libertarian Party.
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> Susan Jane Hogarth
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> 919-906-2106 (tel:919-906-2106)
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> > On Aug 17, 2018 at 5:43 AM, <Susan Hogarth via Lnc-business (mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org)> wrote:
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> > Alex Merced wrote:
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> > For those who want to try improving the current motion, here’s a thread for that.
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> > WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party supports the free market and therefore
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> > the right of privatization of property as an extension of the
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> > individual;
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> > WHEREAS, the Statement of Principles of The Libertarian Party
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> > explicitly supports the right to private property ownership, including
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> > the right to do business utilizing that property as capital;
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> > WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party strongly supports the rights of
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> > individuals to own private property including land, structures, natural
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> > resources and other private space through homesteading, purchase, and
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> > other lawful libertarian means;
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> > WHEREAS, ownership of private property, including but not limited to
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> > land and housing, does not require continual or personal use to exist
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> > as justly owned property unless otherwise abandoned;
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> > WHEREAS, these have been part of the principles of the Libertarian
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> > Party since its inception;
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> > THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that socialist and communist property
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> > ownership schemes, including the collectivization of property, unlawful
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> > usurpation of property, and incorrect characterizations of private
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> > property, unless otherwise voluntarily agreed by all parties, are
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> > incompatible with the philosophy of the Libertarian Party.
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> > Susan Jane Hogarth
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> > 919-906-2106 (tel:919-906-2106)
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> > > On Aug 17, 2018 at 5:40 AM, <Susan Hogarth via Lnc-business (mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org)> wrote:
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> > > Although I appreciate his sincere desire for creating a workspace for lnc members I am opposed to Alex’s beginning of another list for ‘workshopping’ resolutions because I think lnc businnes should be done here on this list unless we are appointing a Resolutions Committee.
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> > > However, as long as it does continue I’ll try to post relevant material here where I believe it belongs. I will not get it all. But I felt very blindsided when a motion was introduced and fully cosponsored here with what felt like zero discussion when other motions were being kicked around, and I don’t want that to keep happening.
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FACEBOOK GROUP REPOST
(I’m leaving out lots of chatter in favor of substance. I hope to see
the substantive discussion move back here)
John Phillips Jr wrote
Too long. As I said on the mailing list.
"We affirm 2.1 of the plank, recognizing property rights, therefore
Rent agreed on voluntarily without state interference is not Theft" is
enough
Susan Jane Hogarth
Region 5 Alternate
[1]919-906-2106
On Aug 17, 2018 at 5:45 AM, <[2]Susan Hogarth via Lnc-business> wrote:
FACEBOOK GROUP REPOST
Joshua Smith wrote (adding ‘there. Ship it.’ afterward)
WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party supports the free market and therefore
the right of privatization of property as an extension of the
individual;
WHEREAS, the Statement of Principles of The Libertarian Party
explicitly supports the right to private property ownership, including
the right to do business utilizing that property as capital;
WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party strongly supports the rights of
individuals to own private property including land, structures, natural
resources and other private space through homesteading, purchase, and
other lawful libertarian means;
WHEREAS, ownership of private property, including but not limited to
land and housing, does not require continual or personal use to exist
as justly owned property unless otherwise abandoned;
WHEREAS, these have been part of the principles of the Libertarian
Party since its inception;
THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that socialist and communist property
ownership schemes, including the collectivization of property, Naturally unla
wful
usurpation of property, and incorrect characterizations of private
property, unless otherwise voluntarily agreed by all parties, are
incompatible with the philosophy of the Libertarian Party.
Susan Jane Hogarth
Region 5 Alternate
919-906-2106 (tel:919-906-2106)
>
> On Aug 17, 2018 at 5:43 AM, <Susan Hogarth via Lnc-business (mailto:lnc-busin
ess at hq.lp.org)> wrote:
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>
>
>
> FACEBOOK GROUP REPOST
>
>
>
>
>
> Alex Merced wrote:
>
>
>
>
> For those who want to try improving the current motion, here’s a thread for th
at.
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>
>
> —————
>
>
>
> WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party supports the free market and therefore
>
> the right of privatization of property as an extension of the
>
> individual;
>
>
>
> WHEREAS, the Statement of Principles of The Libertarian Party
>
> explicitly supports the right to private property ownership, including
>
> the right to do business utilizing that property as capital;
>
>
>
> WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party strongly supports the rights of
>
> individuals to own private property including land, structures, natural
>
> resources and other private space through homesteading, purchase, and
>
> other lawful libertarian means;
>
>
>
> WHEREAS, ownership of private property, including but not limited to
>
> land and housing, does not require continual or personal use to exist
>
> as justly owned property unless otherwise abandoned;
>
>
>
> WHEREAS, these have been part of the principles of the Libertarian
>
> Party since its inception;
>
>
>
> THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that socialist and communist property
>
> ownership schemes, including the collectivization of property, unlawful
>
> usurpation of property, and incorrect characterizations of private
>
> property, unless otherwise voluntarily agreed by all parties, are
>
> incompatible with the philosophy of the Libertarian Party.
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>
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> Susan Jane Hogarth
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> Region 5 Alternate
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> 919-906-2106 (tel:919-906-2106)
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> > On Aug 17, 2018 at 5:40 AM, <Susan Hogarth via Lnc-business (mailto:lnc-bu
siness at hq.lp.org)> wrote:
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> >
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> > Although I appreciate his sincere desire for creating a workspace for lnc m
embers I am opposed to Alex’s beginning of another list for ‘workshopping’ resol
utions because I think lnc businnes should be done here on this list unless we a
re appointing a Resolutions Committee.
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> >
> >
> > However, as long as it does continue I’ll try to post relevant material her
e where I believe it belongs. I will not get it all. But I felt very blindsided
when a motion was introduced and fully cosponsored here with what felt like zero
discussion when other motions were being kicked around, and I don’t want that t
o keep happening.
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> > Susan Jane Hogarth
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> > Region 5 Alternate
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> > 919-906-2106 (tel:919-906-2106)
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2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
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