[Lnc-business] the FB group
brent.olsen at lp.org
brent.olsen at lp.org
Fri Aug 17 19:13:52 EDT 2018
For the record, not that it matters, I am tolerant of whatever way
people want to communicate, as long as it is respectful. I try to be
respectful, but when I see people becoming disrespectful it gets
hard.... Though I still try.
I don't mind the 68 email from Caryn Ann. I don't mind the snarky emails
from Sam Goldstein. I don't mind the well-thought and generally
diplomatic emails from Alex Merced or Joe Bishop-Henchman. I get
annoyed, however, with the constant belittling and berating from some on
this list towards others. I sure would love to see everyone working
together in a generally civil manner. I hope as we get to know each
other in person at LNC meetings the manner in which we interact online
changes. Because the lack of tolerance I see for like-minded individuals
in this group is barely tolerable for me. Sure, I may not want to be
tolerant to Libertarians running for office expressing support for the
use of force to usurp property from property owners, and I feel our body
(or preferably our Chair) should make a statement against such things
(especially when aid candidate is going to do interviews on RT or other
media networks), just as I would expect my Chair (or this body) to make
a statement against a Libertarian candidate supporting a eugenics
program.... But, in general, I am usually pretty tolerant, and hope
you'd all be tolerant. But sometimes I wonder.... Just my two cents...
In Liberty,
K. Brent Olsen, Psy.D.
Alternate, Region 4
On 2018-08-17 14:38, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> Not everyone communicates the same way Joe, and we all have to be
> tolerant of that. It is demeaning to be singled out- just consider
> that, that’s all I ask.
>
> Some folks here react with far more emotion than I care for. But I
> try
> hard not to shame them for it but rather just ignore it if it is not
> my
> thing.
>
> Personal styles are personal, and people are far more likely to
> adjust
> habits when they feel respected because they then like the requester
> which results in everyone voluntarily going out of their way to
> accommodate other people.
>
> Your way is not my way. My way is not your way. And that’s okay.
>
> I think that’s the beginning of a spicey maymay.
>
> Hey hey.
>
> -Caryn Ann
>
> -Caryn Ann
>
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 3:03 PM Joe Bishop-Henchman
> <[1]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org> wrote:
>
> Efforts to work are welcome. Sending 68 emails in four days saying
> the
> same thing over and over, rushing to immediately respond to every.
> single. email. as if one has a duty to rise to the challenge for
> truth,
> justice, and the American Way, is counterproductive.
> I often sleep on an email before I reply to it, if it's important
> but
> not urgent. Most people are very careful with how they write
> emails,
> with meanings that take a couple of readings. If I rush to get my
> word
> in edgewise, I miss that and people notice that I'm not hearing
> what
> they're trying to say.
> JBH
> ------------
> Joe Bishop-Henchman
> LNC Member (At-Large)
> [2]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> [3]www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
> On 2018-08-17 16:36, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> > It’s unfortunate Alex when no good deed goes unpunished.
> > If needed (ie if efforts to work here keep getting met by
> email
> > tallies), I will recreate a group - as an openly viewable
> group
> for
> > anyone who needs to workshop something.
> > This is now a step backwards in transparency since people
> will
> go
> > back
> > to personal discussions. It’s really unfortunate.
> > -Caryn Ann
> > On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 1:43 PM Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair)
> via
> > Lnc-business <[1][4]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> > My intention was to try to facilitate working on business
> but
> that
> > seems to have been the result, I apologize for not helping.
> I
> will
> > delete the group, I haven’t done anything yet cause I
> wanted
> feed
> > back and also cause I’m currently at work. This is not
> worth
> this
> > level of frustration, I’m deleting the group.
> > I was totally fine with making it open which I was planning
> to do
> > when I got home from work but all this back and forth I’m
> seeing
> > is
> > not worth it when my intention was the opposite so I’ll be
> > deleting
> > the group. I figured another outlet could of been great way
> to
> > facilitate work and reduce frustration, and making it
> transparent
> > was fine with me of course I just wanted everyone on the
> same
> > page.
> > I’m deleting the group, to the extent people work off the
> list I
> > ask
> > that you keep me informed so I can help and give feedback
> but
> I’m
> > at
> > least for the time being taking a step back from trying to
> > facilitate as their are many campaigns and efforts I want
> to
> be
> > committing my efforts too.
> > Alex Merced
> > Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP
> >
> > --
> >
> > --
> > In Liberty,
> > Caryn Ann Harlos
> > Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
> Secretary
> > - [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
> > A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> > We defend your rights
> > And oppose the use of force
> > Taxation is theft
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. mailto:[5]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> > 2. mailto:[6]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>
> --
>
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
> - [7]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> 2. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> 3. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
> 4. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 5. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 6. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> 7. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
More information about the Lnc-business
mailing list