[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-22: PROPERTY RIGHTS RESOLUTION

Caryn Ann Harlos caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Wed Aug 22 19:49:14 EDT 2018


Thank you Alex, I echo your sentiments, and since there seems to be some
residual issues, if I went overboard in my defense or advocacy and crossed
a line with anyone, please accept my deepest apologies.  You can always
call me and yell at me.  I miss Daniel Hayes calling me and yelling at me.
Please know my motivation is simple raw passion for our principles.

Alex also echoes something that is a real big deal to me.  OPPOSE IDEAS,
don't oppose PEOPLE.  There are many reasons for this, but here are a few:

1.  It de-personalizes
2.  It honours the whole human being by realizing that they are more than
walking containers for ideas, that they are more than their ideas, and
their value transcends their ideas.
3.  People change.  Treating ideas and people as interchangeable "bakes" in
an idea in an identity which makes a meeting of the minds and souls
difficult.

-Caryn Ann

PS:  I will be repeating this is a new thread later that has nothing to do
with this vote.

On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 5:25 PM, Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via
Lnc-business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

>    Dear LNC,
>
>    As I stated in my in the initial vote, my door would be open for the
>    entire LNC and Membership to discuss many of the strong emotions and
>    sentiments on both sides of this motion.
>
>    In doing so I have decided to change my vote to Yes. Although in doing
>    so I want to reaffirm the following.
>
>     1. My door is open to everyone on anything you think is important for
>        the LNC to consider. I do encourage people to reach out to me so I
>        can be an ally in your efforts. Although, as originally stated if a
>        motion seems rushed or creates an environment where good faith
>        disagreement can't be had I'll be pushing against it.
>     2. I've spoken to many of you on both sides and from the members of
>        this body, all I've seen is good faith and passionate sentiments
>        behind every vote. I ask that members who read this please respect
>        my fellow LNC members and realize disagreement isn't and shouldn't
>        be personal or an end to a conversation.
>     3. I hope that in the weeks to come we can continue to focus on
>        committee assignments and candidate support as I've seen so many
>        exciting candidates make exciting moves and hit amazing milestones,
>        to members reading please find the entire list at
>        [1]LP.org/candidates.
>     4. So hopefully, with all these lessons learned I want to show my
>        appreciation for those whose passion for our core values led to
>        them to putting forth this motion with my vote. While this motion
>        may not be passed I want you to know I have heard your concerns and
>        hope we can ALL forward together on the work that needs doing.
>     5. I also reiterate my statement the other day regarding people vs
>        ideas. As a party we are always inclusive of people who want to be
>        part of what we’re building, but I hope those people in their
>        participation in the exchanges of ideas with other members always
>        come closer to our core values and further away from bad ideas that
>        revolve around the compulsion of others and closer to the
>        non-violent individualist world that I know our diverse membership
>        wants to march towards through the success of our party.
>
>    In Liberty,
>
>    Alex Merced
>    Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP
>
>    On Aug 21, 2018, at 11:43 PM, James Lark via Lnc-business
>    <[2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
>      Dear colleagues:
>          I hope all is well with you.  I am writing in my capacity as
>    Region
>      5 representative to vote "nay" on the motion.
>          As always, thanks for your work for liberty.
>          Take care,
>          Jim
>          James W. Lark, III
>          Professor, Dept. of Systems and Information Engineering
>          Professor, Applied Mathematics Program, Dept. of Engineering and
>      Society
>          Affiliated Faculty, Department of Statistics
>          University of Virginia
>          Advisor, The Liberty Coalition
>          University of Virginia
>          Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>      -----
>      On 8/15/2018 5:56 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>      We have an electronic mail ballot.
>      Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 22, 2018 at 11:59:59pm
>      Pacific time.
>      Co-Sponsors:  Caryn Ann Harlos, Richard Longstreth, Steven Nekhaila,
>      Justin O’Donnell, Joshua Smith
>      Motion: Move to adopt the following resolution:
>      WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party supports the free market and therefore
>      the right of privatization of property as an extension of the
>      individual;
>      WHEREAS, the Statement of Principles of The Libertarian Party
>      explicitly supports the right to private property ownership,
>    including
>      the right to do business utilizing that property as capital;
>      WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party strongly supports the rights of
>      individuals to own private property including land, structures,
>    natural
>      resources and other private space through homesteading, purchase, and
>      other lawful libertarian means;
>      WHEREAS, ownership of private property, including but not limited to
>      land and housing, does not require continual or personal use to exist
>      as justly owned property unless otherwise abandoned;
>      WHEREAS, these have been part of the principles of the Libertarian
>      Party since its inception;
>      THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that socialist and communist property
>      ownership schemes, including the collectivization of property,
>    unlawful
>      usurpation of property, and incorrect characterizations of private
>      property, unless otherwise voluntarily agreed by all parties, are
>      incompatible with the philosophy of the Libertarian Party.
>      =============================================
>      Important Bylaws note:
>      Resolutions require passage by 3/4 vote as follows:
>      Article 7:
>      ***
>      The National Committee may adopt public policy resolutions by a ¾
>    vote
>      with previous notice or by unanimous consent without previous notice.
>      =============================================
>      You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
>      [1][1][3]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting.  Votes are noted with a link
>    to the
>      actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the
>      manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
>      Please notify me of any discrepancies.
>      --
>      In Liberty,
>      Caryn Ann Harlos
>      Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
>      [2]Caryn.Ann. [2][4]Harlos at LP.org or [3][5]Secretary at LP.org.
>      Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - [4][6]LPedia at LP.org
>      A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>      We defend your rights
>      And oppose the use of force
>      Taxation is theft
>    References
>      1. [5][7]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>      2. [6][8]mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>    References
>      1. [9]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>      2. [10]mailto:Harlos at LP.org
>      3. [11]mailto:Secretary at LP.org
>      4. [12]mailto:LPedia at LP.org
>      5. [13]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>      6. [14]mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>
> References
>
>    1. http://LP.org/candidates
>    2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>    3. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>    4. mailto:Harlos at LP.org
>    5. mailto:Secretary at LP.org
>    6. mailto:LPedia at LP.org
>    7. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>    8. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>    9. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>   10. mailto:Harlos at LP.org
>   11. mailto:Secretary at LP.org
>   12. mailto:LPedia at LP.org
>   13. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>   14. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>



-- 
-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
-------------- next part --------------
   Thank you Alex, I echo your sentiments, and since there seems to be
   some residual issues, if I went overboard in my defense or advocacy and
   crossed a line with anyone, please accept my deepest apologies.  You
   can always call me and yell at me.  I miss Daniel Hayes calling me and
   yelling at me.  Please know my motivation is simple raw passion for our
   principles.
   Alex also echoes something that is a real big deal to me.  OPPOSE
   IDEAS, don't oppose PEOPLE.  There are many reasons for this, but here
   are a few:
   1.  It de-personalizes
   2.  It honours the whole human being by realizing that they are more
   than walking containers for ideas, that they are more than their ideas,
   and their value transcends their ideas.
   3.  People change.  Treating ideas and people as interchangeable
   "bakes" in an idea in an identity which makes a meeting of the minds
   and souls difficult.
   -Caryn Ann
   PS:  I will be repeating this is a new thread later that has nothing to
   do with this vote.

   On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 5:25 PM, Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via
   Lnc-business <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

        Dear LNC,
        As I stated in my in the initial vote, my door would be open for
     the
        entire LNC and Membership to discuss many of the strong emotions
     and
        sentiments on both sides of this motion.
        In doing so I have decided to change my vote to Yes. Although in
     doing
        so I want to reaffirm the following.
         1. My door is open to everyone on anything you think is
     important for
            the LNC to consider. I do encourage people to reach out to me
     so I
            can be an ally in your efforts. Although, as originally
     stated if a
            motion seems rushed or creates an environment where good
     faith
            disagreement can't be had I'll be pushing against it.
         2. I've spoken to many of you on both sides and from the members
     of
            this body, all I've seen is good faith and passionate
     sentiments
            behind every vote. I ask that members who read this please
     respect
            my fellow LNC members and realize disagreement isn't and
     shouldn't
            be personal or an end to a conversation.
         3. I hope that in the weeks to come we can continue to focus on
            committee assignments and candidate support as I've seen so
     many
            exciting candidates make exciting moves and hit amazing
     milestones,
            to members reading please find the entire list at
            [1]LP.org/candidates.
         4. So hopefully, with all these lessons learned I want to show
     my
            appreciation for those whose passion for our core values led
     to
            them to putting forth this motion with my vote. While this
     motion
            may not be passed I want you to know I have heard your
     concerns and
            hope we can ALL forward together on the work that needs
     doing.
         5. I also reiterate my statement the other day regarding people
     vs
            ideas. As a party we are always inclusive of people who want
     to be
            part of what we’re building, but I hope those people in their
            participation in the exchanges of ideas with other members
     always
            come closer to our core values and further away from bad
     ideas that
            revolve around the compulsion of others and closer to the
            non-violent individualist world that I know our diverse
     membership
            wants to march towards through the success of our party.
        In Liberty,
        Alex Merced
        Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP
        On Aug 21, 2018, at 11:43 PM, James Lark via Lnc-business

      <[2][2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
        Dear colleagues:
            I hope all is well with you.  I am writing in my capacity as
      Region
        5 representative to vote "nay" on the motion.
            As always, thanks for your work for liberty.
            Take care,
            Jim
            James W. Lark, III
            Professor, Dept. of Systems and Information Engineering
            Professor, Applied Mathematics Program, Dept. of Engineering
   and
        Society
            Affiliated Faculty, Department of Statistics
            University of Virginia
            Advisor, The Liberty Coalition
            University of Virginia
            Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
        -----
        On 8/15/2018 5:56 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
        We have an electronic mail ballot.
        Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 22, 2018 at
   11:59:59pm
        Pacific time.
        Co-Sponsors:  Caryn Ann Harlos, Richard Longstreth, Steven
   Nekhaila,
        Justin O’Donnell, Joshua Smith
        Motion: Move to adopt the following resolution:
        WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party supports the free market and
   therefore
        the right of privatization of property as an extension of the
        individual;
        WHEREAS, the Statement of Principles of The Libertarian Party
        explicitly supports the right to private property ownership,
      including
        the right to do business utilizing that property as capital;
        WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party strongly supports the rights of
        individuals to own private property including land, structures,
      natural
        resources and other private space through homesteading, purchase,
   and
        other lawful libertarian means;
        WHEREAS, ownership of private property, including but not limited
   to
        land and housing, does not require continual or personal use to
   exist
        as justly owned property unless otherwise abandoned;
        WHEREAS, these have been part of the principles of the Libertarian
        Party since its inception;
        THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that socialist and communist property
        ownership schemes, including the collectivization of property,
      unlawful
        usurpation of property, and incorrect characterizations of private
        property, unless otherwise voluntarily agreed by all parties, are
        incompatible with the philosophy of the Libertarian Party.
        =============================================
        Important Bylaws note:
        Resolutions require passage by 3/4 vote as follows:
        Article 7:
        ***
        The National Committee may adopt public policy resolutions by a ¾
      vote
        with previous notice or by unanimous consent without previous
   notice.
        =============================================
        You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:

          [1][1][3][3]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting.  Votes are noted
     with a link
        to the
          actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that
     the
          manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
          Please notify me of any discrepancies.
          --
          In Liberty,
          Caryn Ann Harlos
          Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
     -
          [2]Caryn.Ann. [2][4]Harlos at LP.org or [3][5]Secretary at LP.org.
          Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
     [4][6]LPedia at LP.org
          A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
          We defend your rights
          And oppose the use of force
          Taxation is theft
        References
          1. [5][7][4]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
          2. [6][8]mailto:[5]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
        References
          1. [9][6]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
          2. [10]mailto:[7]Harlos at LP.org
          3. [11]mailto:[8]Secretary at LP.org
          4. [12]mailto:[9]LPedia at LP.org
          5. [13][10]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
          6. [14]mailto:[11]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     References
        1. [12]http://LP.org/candidates
        2. mailto:[13]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
        3. [14]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
        4. mailto:[15]Harlos at LP.org
        5. mailto:[16]Secretary at LP.org
        6. mailto:[17]LPedia at LP.org
        7. [18]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
        8. mailto:[19]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
        9. [20]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
       10. mailto:[21]Harlos at LP.org
       11. mailto:[22]Secretary at LP.org
       12. mailto:[23]LPedia at LP.org
       13. [24]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
       14. mailto:[25]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org

   --
   --
   In Liberty,
   Caryn Ann Harlos
   Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
   - [26]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
   Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
   A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
   We defend your rights
   And oppose the use of force
   Taxation is theft

References

   1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   3. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
   4. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
   5. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
   6. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
   7. mailto:Harlos at LP.org
   8. mailto:Secretary at LP.org
   9. mailto:LPedia at LP.org
  10. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
  11. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
  12. http://LP.org/candidates
  13. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  14. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
  15. mailto:Harlos at LP.org
  16. mailto:Secretary at LP.org
  17. mailto:LPedia at LP.org
  18. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
  19. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
  20. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
  21. mailto:Harlos at LP.org
  22. mailto:Secretary at LP.org
  23. mailto:LPedia at LP.org
  24. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
  25. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
  26. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org


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