[Lnc-business] Social Media Links on LNC page on lp.org
Richard Longstreth
richard.longstreth at lp.org
Wed Aug 29 16:13:06 EDT 2018
I agree! Let's remove our email addresses and phone numbers as well. In
fact, why let anyone know who we are or how to contact us at all. I say we
remove our names from the website all together. Let's discuss that!
Yes, this is sarcastic. Yes, it may be viewed as inappropriate. I apologize
for tone, not for content. This should be a non-troversy and it seems the
same parties are always doomed to butt heads. If you have a problem with
this, the executive director is the one to take it up with as he manages
the website. The Secretary is doing as requested in seeking out this
information. If you think it is such a bad move, then make a motion and
seek sponsors to instruct the ED otherwise. Let's not spend another 8+ days
arguing something silly that literally NOBODY outside of this small
committee cares about.
Richard
On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:56 AM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> I'm going to agree that this is something the LNC should discuss
> before doing. When we link to someone's social media, it makes it
> harder to distance the party from it if they say something amiss.
> Would we have wanted to link to Arvin Vohra's social media last term?
>
> Also the personal social media accounts are used to promote internal
> caucus, candidates for party office, etc. We have restrictions on
> using party assets for those sorts of things, so should we link to
> them from our social media assets?
>
> -Alicia
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:48 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
> <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> > There wasn't any formal motion. There was discussion both on the list
> > and at the first (or second) LNC meeting after the 2016 convention. I
> > do not think this requires a motion and is within the ED's discretion
> > if it can be worked into the page (which was the concern after the new
> > website launched).
> > -Caryn Ann
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:43 PM Elizabeth Van Horn
> > <[1]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
> >
> > I forgot to erase your signature Caryn Ann, but why is there some
> > 'blocked gif" that appears? I can't see it, and since I normally
> > erase
> > the signatures to not have long-add-ons per Chuck Moulton's
> > suggestion,
> > I normally don't notice that there's some blocked gif. Is that
> > something that's seen elsewhere by people reading? Oy.
> > ---
> > Elizabeth Van Horn
> > On 2018-08-29 14:40, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business wrote:
> > > Caryn Ann, by Trent I gather you mean Trent Somes when he was an
> > LNC
> > > alternate.
> > >
> > > I don't recall such by Trent Somes, so when did this get
> > approved? You
> > > said last term, what specifically do you mean by term? (I guess I
> > can
> > > look through past LNC minutes, but I don't recall this being asked
> > or
> > > being approved.)
> > >
> > > I'm not questioning having the secretary gather information for
> > needed
> > > use, I'm questioning the "why" part of the whole thing. I'd like
> > to
> > > see
> > > the wording of what was approved.
> > >
> > > Again, I think the LP and LNC should focus on candidates, and
> > we're the
> > > back-end management, not the front-men. I don't see how adding
> > social
> > > media profiles helps with communication, on the contrary, it makes
> > it
> > > more confusing for members to know the official channels through
> > which
> > > they can reach LNC members. Social media isn't the same, and that
> > > means
> > > the LP and LNC is by some sort of proxy, promoting whatever people
> > have
> > > on their social media. Is that what we want? I'm not sure that's
> > a
> > > good
> > > idea. How would the LP distance itself from social media pages or
> > > profiles that post questionable content? Or, inflammatory,
> > decisive,
> > > etc? I think this idea is fraught with potential problems.
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Elizabeth Van Horn
> > >
> > > On 2018-08-29 13:55, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> > >
> > >> This was approved last term when Trent asked.
> > >>
> > >> Wes is in charge of the website.
> > >>
> > >> Social media contact information is pretty standard in most
> > public
> > >> facing positions and not particularly controversial.
> > >>
> > >> If you would like to make a motion or such please do, but
> > otherwise
> > >> assisting Wes in contact information is routine and ordinary.
> > >>
> > >> -Caryn Ann
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:46 AM Elizabeth Van Horn
> > >> <[2]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Also, why are you compiling such a list for Wes? Where did this
> > idea
> > >>> originate?
> > >>>
> > >>> How is this approved without the input from the LNC?
> > >>>
> > >>> ---
> > >>> Elizabeth Van Horn
> > >>>
> > >>> On 2018-08-29 13:45, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business wrote:
> > >>>> Why would Wes be putting social media links for LNC members on
> > the
> > >>>> website?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I think this is something that this body should discuss. The
> > LP
> > >>>> website is an asset of the LP, and not for LNC member
> > >>>> self-promotion.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> We shouldn't be the front-men, our candidates should be.
> > >>>> ---
> > >>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
> > >>>> LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
> > >>>> Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
> > >>>> Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
> > >>>> [3]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 2018-08-29 00:32, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> > >>>>> Hi everyone, if you have "official" or "public figure" social
> > >>>>> media
> > >>>>> accounts that you would like listed on the LNC page, please
> > respond
> > >>>>> off-list to me as I am compiling this list for Wes.
> > >>>>>
> > >> --
> > >
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> > 2. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> > 3. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>
--
Richard Longstreth
Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY)
Libertarian National Committee
richard.longstreth at lp.org
931.538.9300
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I agree! Let's remove our email addresses and phone numbers as well. In
fact, why let anyone know who we are or how to contact us at all. I say
we remove our names from the website all together. Let's discuss that!
Yes, this is sarcastic. Yes, it may be viewed as inappropriate. I
apologize for tone, not for content. This should be a non-troversy and
it seems the same parties are always doomed to butt heads. If you have
a problem with this, the executive director is the one to take it up
with as he manages the website. The Secretary is doing as requested in
seeking out this information. If you think it is such a bad move, then
make a motion and seek sponsors to instruct the ED otherwise. Let's not
spend another 8+ days arguing something silly that literally NOBODY
outside of this small committee cares about.
Richard
On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:56 AM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business
<[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
I'm going to agree that this is something the LNC should discuss
before doing. When we link to someone's social media, it makes it
harder to distance the party from it if they say something amiss.
Would we have wanted to link to Arvin Vohra's social media last
term?
Also the personal social media accounts are used to promote internal
caucus, candidates for party office, etc. We have restrictions on
using party assets for those sorts of things, so should we link to
them from our social media assets?
-Alicia
On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:48 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
<[2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> There wasn't any formal motion. There was discussion both on
the list
> and at the first (or second) LNC meeting after the 2016
convention. I
> do not think this requires a motion and is within the ED's
discretion
> if it can be worked into the page (which was the concern after
the new
> website launched).
> -Caryn Ann
>
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:43 PM Elizabeth Van Horn
> <[1][3]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>
> I forgot to erase your signature Caryn Ann, but why is there
some
> 'blocked gif" that appears? I can't see it, and since I
normally
> erase
> the signatures to not have long-add-ons per Chuck Moulton's
> suggestion,
> I normally don't notice that there's some blocked gif. Is
that
> something that's seen elsewhere by people reading? Oy.
> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
> On 2018-08-29 14:40, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business
wrote:
> > Caryn Ann, by Trent I gather you mean Trent Somes when he
was an
> LNC
> > alternate.
> >
> > I don't recall such by Trent Somes, so when did this get
> approved? You
> > said last term, what specifically do you mean by term? (I
guess I
> can
> > look through past LNC minutes, but I don't recall this
being asked
> or
> > being approved.)
> >
> > I'm not questioning having the secretary gather information
for
> needed
> > use, I'm questioning the "why" part of the whole thing.
I'd like
> to
> > see
> > the wording of what was approved.
> >
> > Again, I think the LP and LNC should focus on candidates,
and
> we're the
> > back-end management, not the front-men. I don't see how
adding
> social
> > media profiles helps with communication, on the contrary,
it makes
> it
> > more confusing for members to know the official channels
through
> which
> > they can reach LNC members. Social media isn't the same,
and that
> > means
> > the LP and LNC is by some sort of proxy, promoting whatever
people
> have
> > on their social media. Is that what we want? I'm not sure
that's
> a
> > good
> > idea. How would the LP distance itself from social media
pages or
> > profiles that post questionable content? Or, inflammatory,
> decisive,
> > etc? I think this idea is fraught with potential problems.
> >
> > ---
> > Elizabeth Van Horn
> >
> > On 2018-08-29 13:55, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> >
> >> This was approved last term when Trent asked.
> >>
> >> Wes is in charge of the website.
> >>
> >> Social media contact information is pretty standard in
most
> public
> >> facing positions and not particularly controversial.
> >>
> >> If you would like to make a motion or such please do, but
> otherwise
> >> assisting Wes in contact information is routine and
ordinary.
> >>
> >> -Caryn Ann
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:46 AM Elizabeth Van Horn
> >> <[2][4]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Also, why are you compiling such a list for Wes? Where
did this
> idea
> >>> originate?
> >>>
> >>> How is this approved without the input from the LNC?
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>> Elizabeth Van Horn
> >>>
> >>> On 2018-08-29 13:45, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business
wrote:
> >>>> Why would Wes be putting social media links for LNC
members on
> the
> >>>> website?
> >>>>
> >>>> I think this is something that this body should
discuss. The
> LP
> >>>> website is an asset of the LP, and not for LNC member
> >>>> self-promotion.
> >>>>
> >>>> We shouldn't be the front-men, our candidates should be.
> >>>> ---
> >>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
> >>>> LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
> >>>> Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
> >>>> Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
> >>>> [3][5]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2018-08-29 00:32, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
wrote:
> >>>>> Hi everyone, if you have "official" or "public figure"
social
> >>>>> media
> >>>>> accounts that you would like listed on the LNC page,
please
> respond
> >>>>> off-list to me as I am compiling this list for Wes.
> >>>>>
> >> --
> >
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:[6]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> 2. mailto:[7]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> 3. [8]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
--
Richard Longstreth
Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY)
Libertarian National Committee
[9]richard.longstreth at lp.org
931.538.9300
References
1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
3. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
4. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
5. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
6. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
7. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
8. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
9. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
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