[Lnc-business] Social Media Links on LNC page on lp.org

Joe Bishop-Henchman joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
Wed Aug 29 17:09:27 EDT 2018


People should be permitted to express objections without unprofessional 
sarcasm.

As this is a change in practice, discussion about it is valid.

JBH

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Joe Bishop-Henchman
LNC Member (At-Large)
joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837

On 2018-08-29 16:13, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:
> I agree! Let's remove our email addresses and phone numbers as well. In
>    fact, why let anyone know who we are or how to contact us at all. I 
> say
>    we remove our names from the website all together. Let's discuss 
> that!
>    Yes, this is sarcastic. Yes, it may be viewed as inappropriate. I
>    apologize for tone, not for content. This should be a non-troversy 
> and
>    it seems the same parties are always doomed to butt heads. If you 
> have
>    a problem with this, the executive director is the one to take it up
>    with as he manages the website. The Secretary is doing as requested 
> in
>    seeking out this information. If you think it is such a bad move, 
> then
>    make a motion and seek sponsors to instruct the ED otherwise. Let's 
> not
>    spend another 8+ days arguing something silly that literally NOBODY
>    outside of this small committee cares about.
>    Richard
> 
>    On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:56 AM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business
>    <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> 
>      I'm going to agree that this is something the LNC should discuss
>      before doing.  When we link to someone's social media, it makes it
>      harder to distance the party from it if they say something amiss.
>      Would we have wanted to link to Arvin Vohra's social media last
>      term?
>      Also the personal social media accounts are used to promote 
> internal
>      caucus, candidates for party office, etc.  We have restrictions on
>      using party assets for those sorts of things, so should we link to
>      them from our social media assets?
>      -Alicia
>      On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:48 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
>      <[2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>      >
>      >    There wasn't any formal motion.  There was discussion both on
>      the list
>      >    and at the first (or second) LNC meeting after the 2016
>      convention.  I
>      >    do not think this requires a motion and is within the ED's
>      discretion
>      >    if it can be worked into the page (which was the concern 
> after
>      the new
>      >    website launched).
>      >     -Caryn Ann
>      >
>      >    On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:43 PM Elizabeth Van Horn
>      >    <[1][3]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>      >
>      >      I forgot to erase your signature Caryn Ann, but why is 
> there
>      some
>      >      'blocked gif" that appears?  I can't see it, and since I
>      normally
>      >      erase
>      >      the signatures to not have long-add-ons per Chuck Moulton's
>      >      suggestion,
>      >      I normally don't notice that there's some blocked gif.  Is
>      that
>      >      something that's seen elsewhere by people reading? Oy.
>      >      ---
>      >      Elizabeth Van Horn
>      >      On 2018-08-29 14:40, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business
>      wrote:
>      >      > Caryn Ann, by Trent I gather you mean Trent Somes when he
>      was an
>      >      LNC
>      >      > alternate.
>      >      >
>      >      > I don't recall such by Trent Somes, so when did this get
>      >      approved?  You
>      >      > said last term, what specifically do you mean by term?  
> (I
>      guess I
>      >      can
>      >      > look through past LNC minutes, but I don't recall this
>      being asked
>      >      or
>      >      > being approved.)
>      >      >
>      >      > I'm not questioning having the secretary gather 
> information
>      for
>      >      needed
>      >      > use, I'm questioning the "why" part of the whole thing.
>      I'd like
>      >      to
>      >      > see
>      >      > the wording of what was approved.
>      >      >
>      >      > Again, I think the LP and LNC should focus on candidates,
>      and
>      >      we're the
>      >      > back-end management, not the front-men.  I don't see how
>      adding
>      >      social
>      >      > media profiles helps with communication, on the contrary,
>      it makes
>      >      it
>      >      > more confusing for members to know the official channels
>      through
>      >      which
>      >      > they can reach LNC members.  Social media isn't the same,
>      and that
>      >      > means
>      >      > the LP and LNC is by some sort of proxy, promoting 
> whatever
>      people
>      >      have
>      >      > on their social media. Is that what we want?  I'm not 
> sure
>      that's
>      >      a
>      >      > good
>      >      > idea.  How would the LP distance itself from social media
>      pages or
>      >      > profiles that post questionable content?  Or, 
> inflammatory,
>      >      decisive,
>      >      > etc?  I think this idea is fraught with potential 
> problems.
>      >      >
>      >      > ---
>      >      > Elizabeth Van Horn
>      >      >
>      >      > On 2018-08-29 13:55, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>      >      >
>      >      >> This was approved last term when Trent asked.
>      >      >>
>      >      >> Wes is in charge of the website.
>      >      >>
>      >      >> Social media contact information is pretty standard in
>      most
>      >      public
>      >      >> facing positions and not particularly controversial.
>      >      >>
>      >      >> If you would like to make a motion or such please do, 
> but
>      >      otherwise
>      >      >> assisting Wes in contact information is routine and
>      ordinary.
>      >      >>
>      >      >> -Caryn Ann
>      >      >>
>      >      >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:46 AM Elizabeth Van Horn
>      >      >> <[2][4]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>      >      >>
>      >      >>> Also, why are you compiling such a list for Wes?  Where
>      did this
>      >      idea
>      >      >>> originate?
>      >      >>>
>      >      >>> How is this approved without the input from the LNC?
>      >      >>>
>      >      >>> ---
>      >      >>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>      >      >>>
>      >      >>> On 2018-08-29 13:45, Elizabeth Van Horn via 
> Lnc-business
>      wrote:
>      >      >>>> Why would Wes be putting social media links for LNC
>      members on
>      >      the
>      >      >>>> website?
>      >      >>>>
>      >      >>>> I think this is something that this body should
>      discuss.  The
>      >      LP
>      >      >>>> website is an asset of the LP, and not for LNC member
>      >      >>>> self-promotion.
>      >      >>>>
>      >      >>>> We shouldn't be the front-men, our candidates should 
> be.
>      >      >>>> ---
>      >      >>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>      >      >>>> LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>      >      >>>> Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
>      >      >>>> Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
>      >      >>>> [3][5]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>      >      >>>>
>      >      >>>>
>      >      >>>>
>      >      >>>> On 2018-08-29 00:32, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
>      wrote:
>      >      >>>>> Hi everyone, if you have  "official" or "public 
> figure"
>      social
>      >      >>>>> media
>      >      >>>>> accounts that you would like listed on the LNC page,
>      please
>      >      respond
>      >      >>>>> off-list to me as I am compiling this list for Wes.
>      >      >>>>>
>      >      >> --
>      >      >
>      >
>      > References
>      >
>      >    1. mailto:[6]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>      >    2. mailto:[7]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>      >    3. [8]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
> 
>    --
> 
>    Richard Longstreth
>    Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY)
>    Libertarian National Committee
>    [9]richard.longstreth at lp.org
>    931.538.9300
> 
> References
> 
>    1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>    2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>    3. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>    4. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>    5. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>    6. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>    7. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>    8. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>    9. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org



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