[Lnc-business] notice of motions

Caryn Ann Harlos caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Thu Sep 20 02:44:34 EDT 2018


I was thinking that as well but I think that is expanding rather than
restricting so maybe okay?  I could argue that both ways.  I definitely
don’t think we can further restrict the age qualifications though - to me
that’s clearer.

-Caryn Ann

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 9:24 PM Tim Hagan via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> The convention motion explicitly stated the committee shall consist of
> five members. The LNC doesn't have the authority to change the number of
> members.
>
> ---
> Tim Hagan
> Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
>
> On 2018-09-19 19:19, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> > It seems the thing passed explicitly did not entirely age restrict and
> >    thus we cannot do that - it would be out of order - in spirit at the
> >    very least.
> >
> >    No issue with making it larger.
> >
> >    On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 5:44 PM Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business
> >    <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> >      Attached is a motion to carry out the motion adopted on the
> >      convention
> >      floor directing us to create a Youth Engagement Committee. We may
> >      have
> >      already executed that at our last meeting (I forget) but this
> > makes
> >      two
> >      major changes: (1) expanding its membership to seven members,
> >      instead of
> >      the five originally envisioned, and (2) requiring that all its
> >      members,
> >      aside from the LNC representative, be either under the age of 27
> > or
> >      a
> >      current college student. It also corrects some grammar errors in
> > the
> >      original motion as to its purpose:
> >        ---------------------
> >      Pursuant to a resolution adopted by the Libertarian National
> >      Convention,
> >      there is established a Youth Engagement Committee to make
> >      recommendations to the LNC on conducting outreach to younger
> > voters,
> >      consisting of seven (7) members appointed by the LNC:
> >      At least one member shall be on the LNC;
> >      The remaining six members shall be under the age of twenty-seven
> >      and/or
> >      a current college student.
> >      The committee shall elect from its members a chair.
> >        ---------------------
> >      I've also attached it in DOC format.
> >      I'd like us to consider the expansion of the committee's
> > membership
> >      from
> >      five to seven due to the enormous number of applicants we
> > received,
> >      and
> >      a desire to accommodate at least two more of the dozens and dozens
> >      of
> >      young people eager to help steer our outreach to this important
> >      demographic. I've gotten the blessing of the original sponsor (Mr.
> >      Long)
> >      on this; he said he limited it to five because he honestly didn't
> >      think
> >      there would be many applicants. He'll be very glad to have been
> >      proven
> >      wrong on that.
> >      The second change is to ensure that this committee serves a
> > purpose
> >      of
> >      being young people advising us (the LNC). Aside from the LNC
> >      liaison, I
> >      see no reason for any of the other members to be non-youth.
> >      I'd also appreciate time on the agenda for this motion's
> >      consideration.
> >      For reference and comparison, the language adopted on the
> > convention
> >      floor was:
> >        ---------------------
> >          Resolved, this convention seeks to recognize and promote young
> >          libertarian activists;
> >          Resolved, the convention instructs the Libertarian National
> >      Committee
> >          (“LNC”) to create a Youth Engagement Committee (“the
> >      Committee”);
> >          Resolved, the committee shall consist of five (5) members, of
> >      which;
> >          At least one shall be on the LNC,
> >          At least two shall be under the age of twenty-seven, and at
> >      least one
> >          shall be a current college student;
> >          Resolved, the LNC shall appoint the members of the committee;
> >          Resolved, the committee shall elect from its members a chair;
> >          Resolved, the committee shall make recommendations to the LNC
> > on
> >          conducting outreach to younger voters and education such on
> > what
> >      the
> >          party stands for; and
> >          Resolved, this resolution shall take effect after the first
> >      meeting
> >      of
> >          the LNC.
> >          ------------------------
> >      Thank you!
> >      JBH
> >      ------------
> >      Joe Bishop-Henchman
> >      LNC Member (At-Large)
> >      [2]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> >      [3]www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
> >      On 2018-09-15 18:34, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business wrote:
> >      > I'm giving previous notice for the four attached motions and
> >      requesting
> >      >    agenda items for each.
> >      >    1.  Restore LNC review of director contracts - This provision
> >      had
> >      > been
> >      >    in the policy manual for quite some time.  During the 6/30/18
> >      >    pre-convention LNC meeting, to avoid a one-day delay in the
> >      > effective
> >      >    date of a proposed contract, it was deleted from our policy
> >      manual.
> >      >    However, it is a good policy.  It was put there for good
> > reason
> >      so
> >      > that
> >      >    the LNC could have time to object and act, should a proposed
> >      > contract
> >      >    obligate us to absurd financial commitments, and the policy
> >      should
> >      > be
> >      >    restored for future contract decisions.
> >      >    2.  Apply ending date to email ballot 2018-19 - I brought up
> >      the
> >      > need
> >      >    for this amendment while the email ballot was underway.
> >      >    3.  Provide for Blockchain Committee permanent chair - The
> >      motion we
> >      >    adopted provided only for an interim chair for this
> > committee,
> >      but
> >      > said
> >      >    nothing of how a permanent chair would be chosen.
> >      >    4.  Rescind Geoff Neale rule for APRC - This one is a little
> >      more
> >      >    complex, and I will provide further explanation before we
> > vote
> >      on
> >      >    this.  The LNC Policy Manual has established some operational
> >      rules
> >      > for
> >      >    the APRC (also attached for convenience).  During the
> > 2012-2014
> >      term
> >      >    when Geoff Neale was chair, he issued a directive to staff
> > that
> >      > changed
> >      >    the way the APRC operates.  This rule is still in effect and
> >      still
> >      >    influences how the APRC functions.  I think it creates a
> > number
> >      of
> >      >    serious problems, sometimes releasing publications too
> > quickly,
> >      and
> >      >    sometimes holding them up for too long.  My motion is for the
> >      LNC to
> >      >    rescind the Geoff Neale rule (not the one in the policy
> >      manual).
> >      >    Chair's directives to staff are subject to the policies and
> >      > directives
> >      >    of the LNC, per our bylaws, so it is within our purview to
> >      rescind
> >      >    this.
> >      >    You may recall that this came up during our brief
> >      post-convention
> >      >    meeting on 7/3/18 in New Orleans.  A staff member raised an
> >      issue
> >      > with
> >      >    delays on time-sensitive-subject publications.  Mr.
> >      Bishop-Henchman
> >      >    expressed that he and I had experienced inordinate delay in
> >      getting
> >      > the
> >      >    survey out for the Bylaws and Rules Committee.
> >      >    I actually had made a motion to rescind this provision during
> >      the
> >      > prior
> >      >    term, at the August 2017 LNC meeting.  After there was a
> >      suggestion
> >      >    that staff might have other undocumented rules that we'd need
> >      to
> >      > also
> >      >    consider, the LNC chose to postpone the agenda item
> >      indefinitely.
> >      > No
> >      >    such additional rules were ever forwarded to the LNC, only
> >      this.  I
> >      >    requested an agenda item for the December 2017 meeting, but
> >      then my
> >      >    flight to that meeting was canceled due to weather
> > conditions,
> >      and
> >      > the
> >      >    LNC again punted the agenda item in my absence.  The April
> > 2018
> >      > meeting
> >      >    was during an incredibly busy time for me, and I didn't
> > request
> >      an
> >      >    agenda item for it.  We have never gone back an finished this
> >      > subject.
> >      >    -Alicia
> >
> >    --
> >
> >      In Liberty,
> >    [uc?id=1DeRjq-L8dvRZabgEG94VkkUvjoHatcfP&export=download]
> >    Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
> >    Secretary - [4]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> >    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
> >    Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page
> >    at [5]facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> >
> > =======================================================================
> >    ==
> >    Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism *
> > Re-Legalize
> >    All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
> >    Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The
> >    Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and
> > Repeal
> >    the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure *
> > Free-market
> >    Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To
> >    The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation *
> >    VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or [6]http://www.LP.org
> >
> > =======================================================================
> >    ==
> >
> > References
> >
> >    1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >    2. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> >    3. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
> >    4. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >    5. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> >    6. http://www.lp.org/
>
-- 

*  In Liberty,*

*Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
*Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/

=========================================================================
Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
* Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
* Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
Eliminate Regulation *

*VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/>*
=========================================================================
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   I was thinking that as well but I think that is expanding rather than
   restricting so maybe okay?  I could argue that both ways.  I definitely
   don’t think we can further restrict the age qualifications though - to
   me that’s clearer.

   -Caryn Ann

   On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 9:24 PM Tim Hagan via Lnc-business
   <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

     The convention motion explicitly stated the committee shall consist
     of
     five members. The LNC doesn't have the authority to change the
     number of
     members.
     ---
     Tim Hagan
     Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
     On 2018-09-19 19:19, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
     > It seems the thing passed explicitly did not entirely age restrict
     and
     >    thus we cannot do that - it would be out of order - in spirit
     at the
     >    very least.
     >
     >    No issue with making it larger.
     >
     >    On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 5:44 PM Joe Bishop-Henchman via
     Lnc-business
     >    <[1][2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
     >
     >      Attached is a motion to carry out the motion adopted on the
     >      convention
     >      floor directing us to create a Youth Engagement Committee. We
     may
     >      have
     >      already executed that at our last meeting (I forget) but this
     > makes
     >      two
     >      major changes: (1) expanding its membership to seven members,
     >      instead of
     >      the five originally envisioned, and (2) requiring that all
     its
     >      members,
     >      aside from the LNC representative, be either under the age of
     27
     > or
     >      a
     >      current college student. It also corrects some grammar errors
     in
     > the
     >      original motion as to its purpose:
     >        ---------------------
     >      Pursuant to a resolution adopted by the Libertarian National
     >      Convention,
     >      there is established a Youth Engagement Committee to make
     >      recommendations to the LNC on conducting outreach to younger
     > voters,
     >      consisting of seven (7) members appointed by the LNC:
     >      At least one member shall be on the LNC;
     >      The remaining six members shall be under the age of
     twenty-seven
     >      and/or
     >      a current college student.
     >      The committee shall elect from its members a chair.
     >        ---------------------
     >      I've also attached it in DOC format.
     >      I'd like us to consider the expansion of the committee's
     > membership
     >      from
     >      five to seven due to the enormous number of applicants we
     > received,
     >      and
     >      a desire to accommodate at least two more of the dozens and
     dozens
     >      of
     >      young people eager to help steer our outreach to this
     important
     >      demographic. I've gotten the blessing of the original sponsor
     (Mr.
     >      Long)
     >      on this; he said he limited it to five because he honestly
     didn't
     >      think
     >      there would be many applicants. He'll be very glad to have
     been
     >      proven
     >      wrong on that.
     >      The second change is to ensure that this committee serves a
     > purpose
     >      of
     >      being young people advising us (the LNC). Aside from the LNC
     >      liaison, I
     >      see no reason for any of the other members to be non-youth.
     >      I'd also appreciate time on the agenda for this motion's
     >      consideration.
     >      For reference and comparison, the language adopted on the
     > convention
     >      floor was:
     >        ---------------------
     >          Resolved, this convention seeks to recognize and promote
     young
     >          libertarian activists;
     >          Resolved, the convention instructs the Libertarian
     National
     >      Committee
     >          (“LNC”) to create a Youth Engagement Committee (“the
     >      Committee”);
     >          Resolved, the committee shall consist of five (5)
     members, of
     >      which;
     >          At least one shall be on the LNC,
     >          At least two shall be under the age of twenty-seven, and
     at
     >      least one
     >          shall be a current college student;
     >          Resolved, the LNC shall appoint the members of the
     committee;
     >          Resolved, the committee shall elect from its members a
     chair;
     >          Resolved, the committee shall make recommendations to the
     LNC
     > on
     >          conducting outreach to younger voters and education such
     on
     > what
     >      the
     >          party stands for; and
     >          Resolved, this resolution shall take effect after the
     first
     >      meeting
     >      of
     >          the LNC.
     >          ------------------------
     >      Thank you!
     >      JBH
     >      ------------
     >      Joe Bishop-Henchman
     >      LNC Member (At-Large)
     >      [2][3]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
     >      [3][4]www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
     >      On 2018-09-15 18:34, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business wrote:
     >      > I'm giving previous notice for the four attached motions
     and
     >      requesting
     >      >    agenda items for each.
     >      >    1.  Restore LNC review of director contracts - This
     provision
     >      had
     >      > been
     >      >    in the policy manual for quite some time.  During the
     6/30/18
     >      >    pre-convention LNC meeting, to avoid a one-day delay in
     the
     >      > effective
     >      >    date of a proposed contract, it was deleted from our
     policy
     >      manual.
     >      >    However, it is a good policy.  It was put there for good
     > reason
     >      so
     >      > that
     >      >    the LNC could have time to object and act, should a
     proposed
     >      > contract
     >      >    obligate us to absurd financial commitments, and the
     policy
     >      should
     >      > be
     >      >    restored for future contract decisions.
     >      >    2.  Apply ending date to email ballot 2018-19 - I
     brought up
     >      the
     >      > need
     >      >    for this amendment while the email ballot was underway.
     >      >    3.  Provide for Blockchain Committee permanent chair -
     The
     >      motion we
     >      >    adopted provided only for an interim chair for this
     > committee,
     >      but
     >      > said
     >      >    nothing of how a permanent chair would be chosen.
     >      >    4.  Rescind Geoff Neale rule for APRC - This one is a
     little
     >      more
     >      >    complex, and I will provide further explanation before
     we
     > vote
     >      on
     >      >    this.  The LNC Policy Manual has established some
     operational
     >      rules
     >      > for
     >      >    the APRC (also attached for convenience).  During the
     > 2012-2014
     >      term
     >      >    when Geoff Neale was chair, he issued a directive to
     staff
     > that
     >      > changed
     >      >    the way the APRC operates.  This rule is still in effect
     and
     >      still
     >      >    influences how the APRC functions.  I think it creates a
     > number
     >      of
     >      >    serious problems, sometimes releasing publications too
     > quickly,
     >      and
     >      >    sometimes holding them up for too long.  My motion is
     for the
     >      LNC to
     >      >    rescind the Geoff Neale rule (not the one in the policy
     >      manual).
     >      >    Chair's directives to staff are subject to the policies
     and
     >      > directives
     >      >    of the LNC, per our bylaws, so it is within our purview
     to
     >      rescind
     >      >    this.
     >      >    You may recall that this came up during our brief
     >      post-convention
     >      >    meeting on 7/3/18 in New Orleans.  A staff member raised
     an
     >      issue
     >      > with
     >      >    delays on time-sensitive-subject publications.  Mr.
     >      Bishop-Henchman
     >      >    expressed that he and I had experienced inordinate delay
     in
     >      getting
     >      > the
     >      >    survey out for the Bylaws and Rules Committee.
     >      >    I actually had made a motion to rescind this provision
     during
     >      the
     >      > prior
     >      >    term, at the August 2017 LNC meeting.  After there was a
     >      suggestion
     >      >    that staff might have other undocumented rules that we'd
     need
     >      to
     >      > also
     >      >    consider, the LNC chose to postpone the agenda item
     >      indefinitely.
     >      > No
     >      >    such additional rules were ever forwarded to the LNC,
     only
     >      this.  I
     >      >    requested an agenda item for the December 2017 meeting,
     but
     >      then my
     >      >    flight to that meeting was canceled due to weather
     > conditions,
     >      and
     >      > the
     >      >    LNC again punted the agenda item in my absence.  The
     April
     > 2018
     >      > meeting
     >      >    was during an incredibly busy time for me, and I didn't
     > request
     >      an
     >      >    agenda item for it.  We have never gone back an finished
     this
     >      > subject.
     >      >    -Alicia
     >
     >    --
     >
     >      In Liberty,
     >    [uc?id=1DeRjq-L8dvRZabgEG94VkkUvjoHatcfP&export=download]
     >    Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
     >    Secretary - [4]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
     >    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
     >    Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page
     >    at [5][5]facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
     >
     >
     ====================================================================
     ===
     >    ==
     >    Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism *
     > Re-Legalize
     >    All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal
     All Gun
     >    Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money *
     Abolish The
     >    Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and
     > Repeal
     >    the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure *
     > Free-market
     >    Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government
     Schools To
     >    The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation *
     >    VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or [6][6]http://www.LP.org
     >
     >
     ====================================================================
     ===
     >    ==
     >
     > References
     >
     >    1. mailto:[7]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >    2. mailto:[8]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
     >    3. [9]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
     >    4. mailto:[10]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >    5. [11]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
     >    6. [12]http://www.lp.org/

   --

     In Liberty,
   [uc?id=1DeRjq-L8dvRZabgEG94VkkUvjoHatcfP&export=download]
   Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
   Secretary - [13]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
   Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
   Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page
   at [14]facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
   =======================================================================
   ==
   Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
   All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
   Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The
   Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal
   the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market
   Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To
   The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation *
   VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or [15]http://www.LP.org
   =======================================================================
   ==

References

   1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   3. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
   4. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
   5. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
   6. http://www.LP.org/
   7. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   8. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
   9. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
  10. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
  11. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
  12. http://www.lp.org/
  13. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
  14. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
  15. http://www.lp.org/


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