[Lnc-business] Fwd: survey former libertarians

Caryn Ann Harlos caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Wed Nov 21 16:57:57 EST 2018


No phone numbers with the voter reg file

On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 2:15 PM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> I don't see the LNC getting involved in this type of project for one
> state and not for every state that wants similar help, especially in our
> current financial condition.  I doubt the participation rate in this
> survey would be over 10% and most likely significantly less than that.
>
> Do CO voter registrations include phone numbers?  If so then the LPCO
> should get volunteers to call these 5,000+ former registered
> Libertarians.  Or the state party can fund this project itself.  It
> would probably cost less than $5000 to print and mail postcards.
>
> Live Free,
>
> ---
> Sam Goldstein
> Libertarian National Committee
> 317-850-0726 Cell
>
> On 2018-11-21 14:37, Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business wrote:
> > I'm open to it but am mostly replying to add an observation from DC.
> > DC affiliate did a check-in mailing in October, both to all previous
> > donors/members and to current registered voters, about 2,500
> > altogether. We haven't been official party long enough to have many
> > who have switched parties. A lot of moved out of state, moved no
> > forwarding address. The non-insignificant detailed replies from the
> > non-renewals were that the person supports Trump now or that we're
> > wrong on immigration.
> >
> > JBH
> >
> > ------------
> > Joe Bishop-Henchman
> > LNC Member (At-Large)
> > joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> > www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
> >
> > On 2018-11-21 14:18, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:
> >> Fellow LNC Members,
> >>
> >>    Please read what Dave Aitken, Colorado, has written below. In
> >> short,
> >>    there have been many (about 5400) in Colorado who have changed
> >> their
> >>    registration from Libertarian and he would like the LNC to consider
> >>    funding in whole or part a postcard campaign to try to identify
> >> their
> >>    reasons for leaving. If there is preliminary support I will craft a
> >>    motion. Thoughts?
> >>
> >>    While I recognize that this would primarily benefit Colorado, the
> >> data
> >>    collected could give us a blue print for other areas in the nation.
> >> I'm
> >>    not sold on postcards, however.
> >>
> >>    Richard
> >>    ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> >>    From: Database Manager <da***[1]ger at lpcolorado.org>
> >>    Date: Wed, Nov 21, 2018, 09:54
> >>    Subject: survey former libertarians
> >>    To: <[2]richard.longstreth at lp.org>
> >>
> >>    Hi Richard:
> >>    I believe you've had some discussions with Roger Barris and Lauren
> >>    Daugherty about this. I spoke with Wayne Harlos (chair) about this
> >> last
> >>    night at the Denver meeting. He told to run with it.
> >>    As a result of importing the SOS voter registration file over the
> >> past
> >>    2-3 years, I have captured the names and addresses of over 5400
> >> people
> >>    in Colorado who changed their registration from Libertarian to
> >>    something else. I expect to have another 1000 when I get the next
> >> voter
> >>    file in February. They left the party for some reason or other.
> >> It's
> >>    possible that some of them moved and did not update their
> >> registration.
> >>    I have the impression that everybody in LPCO leadership thinks we
> >>    should find out why they left.
> >>    I am suggesting sending a postcard to these people with a link to
> >> an
> >>    online survey (hosted by survey monkey, us, or someone else). The
> >>    postcard could say something like ""Hello: According to our
> >> records,
> >>    you changed your voter registration from Libertarian
> >>    to something else. Please help us understand why you did this and
> >>    answer some questions in our short, anonymous, online survey. You
> >> can
> >>    start the survey by entering this web address in your internet
> >> browser
> >>    address bar: [3]https://lp.org/survey1"
> >>    I am writing to you because 1) I believe this will benefit the
> >> entire
> >>    party; and 2) LPCO can't afford to fund the whole cost. I estimate
> >> the
> >>    printing and mailing cost for 7,000 postcards to be about $3,500.
> >> I'm
> >>    assuming the cost for putting the survey online is minimal and that
> >>    processing the results can be handled in house.
> >>    Here's a possible list of questions for the survey. I think we
> >> should
> >>    be brutally honest with ourselves and find out the truth. I don't
> >> know
> >>    anything about polling or survey design, so suggestions are
> >> welcome.
> >>    ---------
> >>    1.  on a scale of 1-10, are national Libertarian candidates too
> >> radical
> >>    or not radical enough?
> >>    2.  on a scale of 1-10, are state Libertarian candidates too
> >> radical or
> >>    not radical enough?
> >>    3.  1-10, should Libertarian candidates be more mainstream or less
> >>    mainstream?
> >>    4.  1-10, is the LP effective or not?
> >>    5.  1-10, how far left or right is the party.
> >>    6.  if there is one political issue that caused you to leave the
> >> party,
> >>    what is it? (dropdown)
> >>    7. if there is one management issue that caused you to leave the
> >> party,
> >>    what is it? (dropdown)   (not organized, not effective, candidate
> >>    quality, too small, etc)
> >>    8.  1-10, where on spectrum between freedom and slavery do you fit?
> >>    9.  1-10, are Libertarian candidates professional or amateur?
> >>    10.  1-10, are Libertarian candidates regular people or not?
> >>    11.  1-10, do we need more govt, less govt?
> >>    12. Do you consider yourself  Socialist, Progressive, Liberal, Free
> >>    Market Conservative, Social Conservative,  Libertarian, Centrist,
> >>    Authoritarian
> >>    13. Current party affiliation (D,R,L,G,ACP,UAF,Other)
> >>    14. 1-10, did you get too much contact or not enough contact from
> >> the
> >>    party.
> >>    --------
> >>    --
> >>    David Aitken, Database Manager
> >>    Libertarian Party of Colorado
> >>
> >>    --
> >>
> >>    Richard Longstreth
> >>    Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA,
> >> WY)
> >>    Libertarian National Committee
> >>    [4]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >>    931.538.9300
> >>
> >> References
> >>
> >>    1. mailto:ger at lpcolorado.org
> >>    2. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >>    3. https://lp.org/survey1
> >>    4. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
>
-- 

*  In Liberty,*

*Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
*Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
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Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
* Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
* Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
Eliminate Regulation *

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   No phone numbers with the voter reg file

   On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 2:15 PM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business
   <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

     I don't see the LNC getting involved in this type of project for one
     state and not for every state that wants similar help, especially in
     our
     current financial condition.  I doubt the participation rate in this
     survey would be over 10% and most likely significantly less than
     that.
     Do CO voter registrations include phone numbers?  If so then the
     LPCO
     should get volunteers to call these 5,000+ former registered
     Libertarians.  Or the state party can fund this project itself.  It
     would probably cost less than $5000 to print and mail postcards.
     Live Free,
     ---
     Sam Goldstein
     Libertarian National Committee
     317-850-0726 Cell
     On 2018-11-21 14:37, Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business wrote:
     > I'm open to it but am mostly replying to add an observation from
     DC.
     > DC affiliate did a check-in mailing in October, both to all
     previous
     > donors/members and to current registered voters, about 2,500
     > altogether. We haven't been official party long enough to have
     many
     > who have switched parties. A lot of moved out of state, moved no
     > forwarding address. The non-insignificant detailed replies from
     the
     > non-renewals were that the person supports Trump now or that we're
     > wrong on immigration.
     >
     > JBH
     >
     > ------------
     > Joe Bishop-Henchman
     > LNC Member (At-Large)
     > [2]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
     > [3]www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
     >
     > On 2018-11-21 14:18, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:
     >> Fellow LNC Members,
     >>
     >>    Please read what Dave Aitken, Colorado, has written below. In
     >> short,
     >>    there have been many (about 5400) in Colorado who have changed
     >> their
     >>    registration from Libertarian and he would like the LNC to
     consider
     >>    funding in whole or part a postcard campaign to try to
     identify
     >> their
     >>    reasons for leaving. If there is preliminary support I will
     craft a
     >>    motion. Thoughts?
     >>
     >>    While I recognize that this would primarily benefit Colorado,
     the
     >> data
     >>    collected could give us a blue print for other areas in the
     nation.
     >> I'm
     >>    not sold on postcards, however.
     >>
     >>    Richard
     >>    ---------- Forwarded message ---------
     >>    From: Database Manager <da***[1][4]ger at lpcolorado.org>
     >>    Date: Wed, Nov 21, 2018, 09:54
     >>    Subject: survey former libertarians
     >>    To: <[2][5]richard.longstreth at lp.org>
     >>
     >>    Hi Richard:
     >>    I believe you've had some discussions with Roger Barris and
     Lauren
     >>    Daugherty about this. I spoke with Wayne Harlos (chair) about
     this
     >> last
     >>    night at the Denver meeting. He told to run with it.
     >>    As a result of importing the SOS voter registration file over
     the
     >> past
     >>    2-3 years, I have captured the names and addresses of over
     5400
     >> people
     >>    in Colorado who changed their registration from Libertarian to
     >>    something else. I expect to have another 1000 when I get the
     next
     >> voter
     >>    file in February. They left the party for some reason or
     other.
     >> It's
     >>    possible that some of them moved and did not update their
     >> registration.
     >>    I have the impression that everybody in LPCO leadership thinks
     we
     >>    should find out why they left.
     >>    I am suggesting sending a postcard to these people with a link
     to
     >> an
     >>    online survey (hosted by survey monkey, us, or someone else).
     The
     >>    postcard could say something like ""Hello: According to our
     >> records,
     >>    you changed your voter registration from Libertarian
     >>    to something else. Please help us understand why you did this
     and
     >>    answer some questions in our short, anonymous, online survey.
     You
     >> can
     >>    start the survey by entering this web address in your internet
     >> browser
     >>    address bar: [3][6]https://lp.org/survey1"
     >>    I am writing to you because 1) I believe this will benefit the
     >> entire
     >>    party; and 2) LPCO can't afford to fund the whole cost. I
     estimate
     >> the
     >>    printing and mailing cost for 7,000 postcards to be about
     $3,500.
     >> I'm
     >>    assuming the cost for putting the survey online is minimal and
     that
     >>    processing the results can be handled in house.
     >>    Here's a possible list of questions for the survey. I think we
     >> should
     >>    be brutally honest with ourselves and find out the truth. I
     don't
     >> know
     >>    anything about polling or survey design, so suggestions are
     >> welcome.
     >>    ---------
     >>    1.  on a scale of 1-10, are national Libertarian candidates
     too
     >> radical
     >>    or not radical enough?
     >>    2.  on a scale of 1-10, are state Libertarian candidates too
     >> radical or
     >>    not radical enough?
     >>    3.  1-10, should Libertarian candidates be more mainstream or
     less
     >>    mainstream?
     >>    4.  1-10, is the LP effective or not?
     >>    5.  1-10, how far left or right is the party.
     >>    6.  if there is one political issue that caused you to leave
     the
     >> party,
     >>    what is it? (dropdown)
     >>    7. if there is one management issue that caused you to leave
     the
     >> party,
     >>    what is it? (dropdown)   (not organized, not effective,
     candidate
     >>    quality, too small, etc)
     >>    8.  1-10, where on spectrum between freedom and slavery do you
     fit?
     >>    9.  1-10, are Libertarian candidates professional or amateur?
     >>    10.  1-10, are Libertarian candidates regular people or not?
     >>    11.  1-10, do we need more govt, less govt?
     >>    12. Do you consider yourself  Socialist, Progressive, Liberal,
     Free
     >>    Market Conservative, Social Conservative,  Libertarian,
     Centrist,
     >>    Authoritarian
     >>    13. Current party affiliation (D,R,L,G,ACP,UAF,Other)
     >>    14. 1-10, did you get too much contact or not enough contact
     from
     >> the
     >>    party.
     >>    --------
     >>    --
     >>    David Aitken, Database Manager
     >>    Libertarian Party of Colorado
     >>
     >>    --
     >>
     >>    Richard Longstreth
     >>    Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT,
     WA,
     >> WY)
     >>    Libertarian National Committee
     >>    [4][7]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >>    931.538.9300
     >>
     >> References
     >>
     >>    1. mailto:[8]ger at lpcolorado.org
     >>    2. mailto:[9]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >>    3. [10]https://lp.org/survey1
     >>    4. mailto:[11]richard.longstreth at lp.org

   --

     In Liberty,
   [uc?id=1DeRjq-L8dvRZabgEG94VkkUvjoHatcfP&export=download]
   Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
   Secretary - [12]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
   Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
   Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page
   at [13]facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
   =======================================================================
   ==
   Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
   All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
   Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The
   Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal
   the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market
   Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To
   The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation *
   VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or [14]http://www.LP.org
   =======================================================================
   ==

References

   1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   2. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
   3. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
   4. mailto:ger at lpcolorado.org
   5. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
   6. https://lp.org/survey1
   7. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
   8. mailto:ger at lpcolorado.org
   9. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
  10. https://lp.org/survey1
  11. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
  12. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
  13. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
  14. http://www.lp.org/


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