[Lnc-business] Alicia, can you please advise...

Alicia Mattson alicia.mattson at lp.org
Tue Nov 27 18:10:50 EST 2018


Caryn Ann,

If I were aware of some particular pressing need to know what state
affiliate X's bylaws were five years ago, this would have been a higher
priority for me.  If some new situation were to arise, it would be much
more likely we would be interested in their current bylaws.

As I previously informed you, I intend to do this after I reorganize them
in a manner that will make more sense to someone besides me, and that
intent hasn't changed.  After several years of my performance for the LNC,
there's no good reason to think that the only way to get me to take care of
a task is to demand updates from me on a public email lists, or to add
comments to the Secretary's Report incorrectly implying that I am causing
some sort of bylaw violation.

Your report for the upcoming meeting suggests that the archive is "required
by the national bylaws Article 5.2".  Bylaw Article 5.2 is about how the
LNC initially charters a new affiliate.  The sentence to which I presume
you are referring is:

"Affiliate party status shall be granted only to those organizations which
adopt the Statement of Principles and file a copy of their Constitution
and/or Bylaws with the Party Secretary."

The section as a whole is about actions taken at the time of initial
affiliation.  The sentence itself says that filing a copy of governing
documents with the Party Secretary is a prerequisite for the LNC "granting"
affiliate status.  I see nothing there about a recurring requirement to
maintain an archive of ever-changing affiliate bylaws after the point of
initial affiliation.  Given that the document filing requirement is tied to
affiliate status, is it your position that all the affiliates who have not
regularly sent updates of their governing documents are no longer
affiliates?

I am not aware of any party secretary before me who spent time obtaining
and maintaining periodic copies of updated bylaws.  I became concerned at
how frequently we have affiliates atrophy, and one affiliate even contacted
me because they had lost their bylaws after officer turnover.  I did not
have a copy to provide back to them.  So just in case, I started
periodically snagging copies from websites, or requesting copies if they
weren't on the website.  I do not possess a history of state affiliate
bylaws from inception.  It's an incomplete (not all state affiliates would
respond to my requests) set of data starting during my tenure as party
secretary.

The files aren't going anywhere.  I have them on two computers, plus in an
offsite backup.  Staff has an older version that I sent them maybe three
years ago.  I still plan to reorganize them and then share a copy, but it
is not urgent, and drumming up drama about it is just unwarranted.  I do
not feel guilty for having put other projects ahead of this task.

-Alicia



On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 1:27 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

>    Hi Alicia, I am following up on my prior requests for your archive of
>    the affiliate bylaws from last term.  Can you please send those over to
>    me now that the busyness of elections and convention is over?
>    --
>      In Liberty,
>    [uc?id=1DeRjq-L8dvRZabgEG94VkkUvjoHatcfP&export=download]
>    Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
>    - [1]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>    Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page
>    at [2]facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>    =======================================================================
>    ==
>    Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
>    All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
>    Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The
>    Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal
>    the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market
>    Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To
>    The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation *
>    VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or [3]http://www.LP.org
>    =======================================================================
>    ==
>
> References
>
>    1. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>    2. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>    3. http://www.lp.org/
>
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   Caryn Ann,
   If I were aware of some particular pressing need to know what state
   affiliate X's bylaws were five years ago, this would have been a higher
   priority for me.  If some new situation were to arise, it would be much
   more likely we would be interested in their current bylaws.
   As I previously informed you, I intend to do this after I reorganize
   them in a manner that will make more sense to someone besides me, and
   that intent hasn't changed.  After several years of my performance for
   the LNC, there's no good reason to think that the only way to get me to
   take care of a task is to demand updates from me on a public email
   lists, or to add comments to the Secretary's Report incorrectly
   implying that I am causing some sort of bylaw violation.
   Your report for the upcoming meeting suggests that the archive is
   "required by the national bylaws Article 5.2".  Bylaw Article 5.2 is
   about how the LNC initially charters a new affiliate.  The sentence to
   which I presume you are referring is:
   "Affiliate party status shall be granted only to those organizations
   which adopt the Statement of Principles and file a copy of their
   Constitution and/or Bylaws with the Party Secretary."
   The section as a whole is about actions taken at the time of initial
   affiliation.  The sentence itself says that filing a copy of governing
   documents with the Party Secretary is a prerequisite for the LNC
   "granting" affiliate status.  I see nothing there about a recurring
   requirement to maintain an archive of ever-changing affiliate bylaws
   after the point of initial affiliation.  Given that the document filing
   requirement is tied to affiliate status, is it your position that all
   the affiliates who have not regularly sent updates of their governing
   documents are no longer affiliates?
   I am not aware of any party secretary before me who spent time
   obtaining and maintaining periodic copies of updated bylaws.  I became
   concerned at how frequently we have affiliates atrophy, and one
   affiliate even contacted me because they had lost their bylaws after
   officer turnover.  I did not have a copy to provide back to them.  So
   just in case, I started periodically snagging copies from websites, or
   requesting copies if they weren't on the website.  I do not possess a
   history of state affiliate bylaws from inception.  It's an incomplete
   (not all state affiliates would respond to my requests) set of data
   starting during my tenure as party secretary.
   The files aren't going anywhere.  I have them on two computers, plus in
   an offsite backup.  Staff has an older version that I sent them maybe
   three years ago.  I still plan to reorganize them and then share a
   copy, but it is not urgent, and drumming up drama about it is just
   unwarranted.  I do not feel guilty for having put other projects ahead
   of this task.
   -Alicia

   On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 1:27 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
   <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

        Hi Alicia, I am following up on my prior requests for your
     archive of
        the affiliate bylaws from last term.  Can you please send those
     over to
        me now that the busyness of elections and convention is over?
        --
          In Liberty,
        [uc?id=1DeRjq-L8dvRZabgEG94VkkUvjoHatcfP&export=download]
        Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
        - [1]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
        Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
        Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page
        at [2][2]facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/

     ====================================================================
     ===
        ==
        Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism *
     Re-Legalize
        All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All
     Gun
        Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish
     The
        Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and
     Repeal
        the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure *
     Free-market
        Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools
     To
        The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation *
        VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or [3][3]http://www.LP.org

     ====================================================================
     ===
        ==
     References
        1. mailto:[4]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
        2. [5]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
        3. [6]http://www.lp.org/

References

   1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   2. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
   3. http://www.LP.org/
   4. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
   5. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
   6. http://www.lp.org/


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