[Lnc-business] Koerner proposal
Caryn Ann Harlos
carynannharlos at gmail.com
Sat Dec 22 14:08:17 EST 2018
And I am earnestly asking for a moment of self-reflection here.
We complain about lack of support and resources. Robin is a dynamic
political consultant who is enthusiastic about our brand and has skills in
persuasion we need. And after the over the moon welcome we gave him in
Sept, our Dec reaction was schizophrenic.
I’m not opposed to a competition but after the dismissive way his idea was
described I despair that we know our ass from our hat when it comes to
marketing.
On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 12:03 PM john.phillips at lp.org <john.phillips at lp.org>
wrote:
> Agreed. I have suggested a competition many times.
>
> I like Robin's idea a lot, but not the proposal.
>
> I am with Caryn Ann in asking for info tho. Even those of us in the email
> chain last time somehow got lots of info left out.
>
> John Phillips
>
> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>
> Cell 217-412-5973
>
> ------ Original message------
> *From: *Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business
> *Date: *Sat, Dec 22, 2018 9:40 AM
> *To: *Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business;
> *Cc: *Richard Longstreth;Caryn Ann Harlos;
> *Subject:*Re: [Lnc-business] Koerner proposal
>
> Here's my perspective:
>
> A proposal was brought forth.
> LNC discussed and gave feedback as to several changes that each of us would
> be more likely to consider.
> Presumably a counter offer was made with those requests or thoughts.
> The LNC formally rejected the original proposal.
> As far as I see it, I'm waiting on Koerner to get back to us with a
> reasonable proposal stemming from the feedback he has already received.
>
> Until I see another proposal, I don't have anything more to discuss on this
> because the original was rejected. I would rather the LP hold a contest to
> come up with voluntarily submitted branding ideas rather than pursue this
> idea where the contract was unreasonable and no response is being made to
> our public comment and our input for a renegotiation. Either Koerner wants
> to pursue this or not, I will not be further pursuing it for him.
>
> If the lack of negotiation stems from nobody on our end formally reaching
> out and negotiating the contract with him, despite his efforts, that is
> very irresponsible but the only person charged to do that from this body is
> Nick and I trust he has done what he has been charged with. I also trust
> that he hasn't gotten responses which is why nothing else has come before
> the body.
>
> I am very open and willing to discuss other proposals he brings forth,
> however, at this time, there is nothing on the table.
>
> Richard Longstreth
> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY)
> Libertarian National Committee
>
>
> richard.longstreth at lp.org931.538.9300
>
> Sent from my Mobile Device
>
> On Dec 21, 2018 23:18, "Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business" <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> As I think I made clear during our last meeting, I was really unhappy
> with how we handled this (praxis, not necessarily the result). Where
> are we at? Is the Chair still engaging in negotiations? I ask that
> this be added to the e-agenda for the January meeting.
> --
> In Liberty,
> [uc?id=1DeRjq-L8dvRZabgEG94VkkUvjoHatcfP&export=download]
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
> - [1]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org <+Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org. <+Secretary at LP.org.>
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org <+LPedia at LP.org>
> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page
> at [2]facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> =======================================================================
> ==
> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
> All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
> Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The
> Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal
> the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market
> Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To
> The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation *
> VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or [3]http://www.LP.org
> =======================================================================
> ==
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> 2. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> 3. http://www.lp.org/
>
> Here's my perspective:
> A proposal was brought forth.
> LNC discussed and gave feedback as to several changes that each of us
> would be more likely to consider.
> Presumably a counter offer was made with those requests or thoughts.
> The LNC formally rejected the original proposal.
> As far as I see it, I'm waiting on Koerner to get back to us with a
> reasonable proposal stemming from the feedback he has already received.
> Until I see another proposal, I don't have anything more to discuss on
> this because the original was rejected. I would rather the LP hold a
> contest to come up with voluntarily submitted branding ideas rather
> than pursue this idea where the contract was unreasonable and no
> response is being made to our public comment and our input for a
> renegotiation. Either Koerner wants to pursue this or not, I will not
> be further pursuing it for him.
> If the lack of negotiation stems from nobody on our end formally
> reaching out and negotiating the contract with him, despite his
> efforts, that is very irresponsible but the only person charged to do
> that from this body is Nick and I trust he has done what he has been
> charged with. I also trust that he hasn't gotten responses which is why
> nothing else has come before the body.
> I am very open and willing to discuss other proposals he brings forth,
> however, at this time, there is nothing on the table.
> Richard Longstreth
> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY)
> Libertarian National Committee
> [1]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> 931.538.9300
> Sent from my Mobile Device
>
> On Dec 21, 2018 23:18, "Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business"
> <[2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> As I think I made clear during our last meeting, I was really
> unhappy
> with how we handled this (praxis, not necessarily the result).
> Where
> are we at? Is the Chair still engaging in negotiations? I ask
> that
> this be added to the e-agenda for the January meeting.
> --
> In Liberty,
> [uc?id=1DeRjq-L8dvRZabgEG94VkkUvjoHatcfP&export=download]
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
> - [1]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org <+Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org. <+Secretary at LP.org.>
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org <+LPedia at LP.org>
> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page
> at [2][3]facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>
> ====================================================================
> ===
> ==
> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism *
> Re-Legalize
> All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All
> Gun
> Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish
> The
> Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and
> Repeal
> the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure *
> Free-market
> Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools
> To
> The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation *
> VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or [3][4]http://www.LP.org
>
> ====================================================================
> ===
> ==
> References
> 1. mailto:[5]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> 2. [6]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> 3. [7]http://www.lp.org/
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> 2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 3. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> 4. http://www.LP.org/
> 5. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>
> 6. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> 7. http://www.lp.org/
>
> --
* In Liberty,*
*Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
*Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
=========================================================================
Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
* Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
* Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
Eliminate Regulation *
*VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/>*
=========================================================================
-------------- next part --------------
And I am earnestly asking for a moment of self-reflection here.
We complain about lack of support and resources. Robin is a dynamic
political consultant who is enthusiastic about our brand and has skills
in persuasion we need. And after the over the moon welcome we gave him
in Sept, our Dec reaction was schizophrenic.
I’m not opposed to a competition but after the dismissive way his idea
was described I despair that we know our ass from our hat when it comes
to marketing.
On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 12:03 PM [1]john.phillips at lp.org
<[2]john.phillips at lp.org> wrote:
Agreed. I have suggested a competition many times.
I like Robin's idea a lot, but not the proposal.
I am with Caryn Ann in asking for info tho. Even those of us in the
email chain last time somehow got lots of info left out.
John Phillips
Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
Cell [3]217-412-5973
------ Original message------
From: Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business
Date: Sat, Dec 22, 2018 9:40 AM
To: Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business;
Cc: Richard Longstreth;Caryn Ann Harlos;
Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Koerner proposal
Here's my perspective:
A proposal was brought forth.
LNC discussed and gave feedback as to several changes that each of us would
be more likely to consider.
Presumably a counter offer was made with those requests or thoughts.
The LNC formally rejected the original proposal.
As far as I see it, I'm waiting on Koerner to get back to us with a
reasonable proposal stemming from the feedback he has already received.
Until I see another proposal, I don't have anything more to discuss on this
because the original was rejected. I would rather the LP hold a contest to
come up with voluntarily submitted branding ideas rather than pursue this
idea where the contract was unreasonable and no response is being made to
our public comment and our input for a renegotiation. Either Koerner wants
to pursue this or not, I will not be further pursuing it for him.
If the lack of negotiation stems from nobody on our end formally reaching
out and negotiating the contract with him, despite his efforts, that is
very irresponsible but the only person charged to do that from this body is
Nick and I trust he has done what he has been charged with. I also trust
that he hasn't gotten responses which is why nothing else has come before
the body.
I am very open and willing to discuss other proposals he brings forth,
however, at this time, there is nothing on the table.
Richard Longstreth
Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY)
Libertarian National Committee
[4]richard.longstreth at lp.org
[5]931.538.9300
Sent from my Mobile Device
On Dec 21, 2018 23:18, "Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business" <[6]
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
As I think I made clear during our last meeting, I was really unhappy
with how we handled this (praxis, not necessarily the result). Where
are we at? Is the Chair still engaging in negotiations? I ask that
this be added to the e-agenda for the January meeting.
--
In Liberty,
[uc?id=1DeRjq-L8dvRZabgEG94VkkUvjoHatcfP&export=download]
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
- [1][7]Caryn.Ann.[8] Harlos at LP.org or[9] Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[10] LPedia at LP.org
Call me at [11]561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page
at [2][12]facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
=======================================================================
==
Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The
Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal
the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market
Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To
The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation *
VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or [3][13]http://www.LP.org
=======================================================================
==
References
1. mailto[14]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
2. [15]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
3. [16]http://www.lp.org/
Here's my perspective:
A proposal was brought forth.
LNC discussed and gave feedback as to several changes that each of us
would be more likely to consider.
Presumably a counter offer was made with those requests or thoughts.
The LNC formally rejected the original proposal.
As far as I see it, I'm waiting on Koerner to get back to us with a
reasonable proposal stemming from the feedback he has already received.
Until I see another proposal, I don't have anything more to discuss on
this because the original was rejected. I would rather the LP hold a
contest to come up with voluntarily submitted branding ideas rather
than pursue this idea where the contract was unreasonable and no
response is being made to our public comment and our input for a
renegotiation. Either Koerner wants to pursue this or not, I will not
be further pursuing it for him.
If the lack of negotiation stems from nobody on our end formally
reaching out and negotiating the contract with him, despite his
efforts, that is very irresponsible but the only person charged to do
that from this body is Nick and I trust he has done what he has been
charged with. I also trust that he hasn't gotten responses which is why
nothing else has come before the body.
I am very open and willing to discuss other proposals he brings forth,
however, at this time, there is nothing on the table.
Richard Longstreth
Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY)
Libertarian National Committee
[1[17]]richard.longstreth at lp.org
[18]931.538.9300
Sent from my Mobile Device
On Dec 21, 2018 23:18, "Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business"
<[2[19]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
As I think I made clear during our last meeting, I was really
unhappy
with how we handled this (praxis, not necessarily the result).
Where
are we at? Is the Chair still engaging in negotiations? I ask
that
this be added to the e-agenda for the January meeting.
--
In Liberty,
[uc?id=1DeRjq-L8dvRZabgEG94VkkUvjoHatcfP&export=download]
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
- [1][20]Caryn.Ann.[21] Harlos at LP.org or[22] Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[23] LPedia at LP.org
Call me at [24]561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page
at [2][3][25]facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
====================================================================
===
==
Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism *
Re-Legalize
All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All
Gun
Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish
The
Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and
Repeal
the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure *
Free-market
Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools
To
The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation *
VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or [3][4][26]http://www.LP.org
====================================================================
===
==
References
1. mailto:[5[27]]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
2. [6][28]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
3. [7][29]http://www.lp.org/
References
1. mailto[30]:richard.longstreth at lp.org
2. mailto[31]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
3. [32]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
4. [33]http://www.LP.org/
5. mailto[34]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
6. [35]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
7. [36]http://www.lp.org/
--
In Liberty,
[uc?id=1DeRjq-L8dvRZabgEG94VkkUvjoHatcfP&export=download]
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
- [37]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page
at [38]facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
=======================================================================
==
Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The
Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal
the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market
Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To
The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation *
VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or [39]http://www.LP.org
=======================================================================
==
References
1. mailto:john.phillips at lp.org
2. mailto:john.phillips at lp.org
3. tel:217-412-5973
4. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
5. tel:931.538.9300
6. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
7. http://Caryn.An/
8. mailto:+Harlos at LP.org
9. mailto:+Secretary at LP.org.
10. mailto:+LPedia at LP.org
11. tel:561.523.2250
12. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
13. http://www.LP.org/
14. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
15. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
16. http://www.lp.org/
17. mailto:]richard.longstreth at lp.org
18. tel:931.538.9300
19. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
20. http://Caryn.An/
21. mailto:+Harlos at LP.org
22. mailto:+Secretary at LP.org.
23. mailto:+LPedia at LP.org
24. tel:561.523.2250
25. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
26. http://www.LP.org/
27. mailto:]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
28. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
29. http://www.lp.org/
30. mailto::richard.longstreth at lp.org
31. mailto::lnc-business at hq.lp.org
32. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
33. http://www.LP.org/
34. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
35. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
36. http://www.lp.org/
37. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
38. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
39. http://www.lp.org/
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