[Lnc-business] Koerner proposal

john.phillips at lp.org john.phillips at lp.org
Sat Dec 22 15:28:06 EST 2018


Nope Caryn Ann.  Just several people do not agree with it.
I see both sides and point out things on both.
It is a good idea.  I spoke highly of it in Phoenix.  I thought the ask was a bit high, but honestly thought he was spitballing and his real proposal would be somewhat lower.  Then I talked to people I know who make a living in marketing on local and national levels.  As I said in our off list discussion they came back with a substantially lower number for what they would charge for a similar offer. 
 Just because I like and really want that corvette for sale out there does not mean I am not going to check blue book on it before I drop cash on it, and if book value is substantially lower I may not come back knowing we are too far apart.
I also agreed with you that asking what was going on with it was reasonable because apparently last time there was some confusion and some info we did not all have, tho I do not think it would have changed the outcome.
I like his idea. I would love to pursue it further.  After due diligence at about 1/10 of his ask.  Unless he DRAMATICALLY increases his amount of consulting hours.  Also after we get our ducks in a row budget wise.
  We rail against Ds and Rs deficit spending, I for one am not going to be a hypocrite and support a deficit budget. Especially for that, if I was I would have pushed it elsewhere anyway, like ballot access or keeping at least 2 more great employees at full time.
While yes this is branding, it also falls deep into candidate support, so maybe fundraising that to help?  
Also, I was led to believe that his team had leads on people willing to donate to fund it - part of the reason I misunderstood their desire to table it - if that is the case perhaps we need to let them do that before we reconsider the project.  If they showed up with 30k worth of committed donors that would change a lot of minds.
John Phillips
Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
Cell 217-412-5973
------ Original message------From: Caryn Ann HarlosDate: Sat, Dec 22, 2018 1:58 PMTo: lnc-business at hq.lp.org;Cc: Whitney Bilyeu;john.phillips at lp.org;Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Koerner proposal
I see my main point is lost.
On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 12:47 PM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
   I also know that some staff are pursuing fundraising training, so if we

   have the money to burn we could possibly bring them back to full time

   to pursue that.

   Competitions are free ;)

   John Phillips

   Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative

   Cell [1]217-412-5973



   ------ Original message------

   From: Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business

   Date: Sat, Dec 22, 2018 1:39 PM

   To: [2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org;

   Cc: Joe Bishop-Henchman;Whitney Bilyeu;

   Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Koerner proposal

   I agree with Ms. Bilyeu.

   I'll add that we are nearly $100,000 behind on bills, so my preference

   is that we not pursue supplemental expenses or staff activity

   directives that are not fundraising related, at least until our bill

   backlog is stabilized. All new initiatives involve some amount of risk

   and I personally prefer we be risk-averse until we are no longer doing

   the equivalent of putting the electric bill into the water company

   envelope each month.

   Marketing initiatives are at best indirectly related to fundraising,

   and it's hard for me to see how this campaign will generate more

   revenue than its costs (both dollar and staff time) in the near future

   even if the costs are minimal. If we have $40,000 to burn let's hire

   another full time fundraiser to work the phones.

   JBH

   On Dec 22, 2018 11:45 AM, Whitney Bilyeu via Lnc-business

    wrote:



     Unless there is a new proposal on the table, I don't see what there

     is to

     discuss. The LNC rejected the original proposal, and no one offered

     amendments. It seems there is little to no overall interest in

     furthering

     this.

     On Sat, Dec 22, 2018, 9:40 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business <

    [3] lnc-business at hq.lp.org wrote:

     >    Here's my perspective:

     >    A proposal was brought forth.

     >    LNC discussed and gave feedback as to several changes that each

     of us

     >    would be more likely to consider.

     >    Presumably a counter offer was made with those requests or

     thoughts.

     >    The LNC formally rejected the original proposal.

     >    As far as I see it, I'm waiting on Koerner to get back to us

     with a

     >    reasonable proposal stemming from the feedback he has already

     received.

     >    Until I see another proposal, I don't have anything more to

     discuss on

     >    this because the original was rejected. I would rather the LP

     hold a

     >    contest to come up with voluntarily submitted branding ideas

     rather

     >    than pursue this idea where the contract was unreasonable and

     no

     >    response is being made to our public comment and our input for

     a

     >    renegotiation. Either Koerner wants to pursue this or not, I

     will not

     >    be further pursuing it for him.

     >    If the lack of negotiation stems from nobody on our end

     formally

     >    reaching out and negotiating the contract with him, despite his

     >    efforts, that is very irresponsible but the only person charged

     to do

     >    that from this body is Nick and I trust he has done what he has

     been

     >    charged with. I also trust that he hasn't gotten responses

     which is why

     >    nothing else has come before the body.

     >    I am very open and willing to discuss other proposals he brings

     forth,

     >    however, at this time, there is nothing on the table.

     >    Richard Longstreth

     >    Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT,

     WA, WY)

     >    Libertarian National Committee

     >    [1[4]]richard.longstreth at lp.org

     >    [5]931.538.9300

     >    Sent from my Mobile Device

     >

     >    On Dec 21, 2018 23:18, "Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business"

     >    <[2[6]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

     >

     >         As I think I made clear during our last meeting, I was

     really

     >      unhappy

     >         with how we handled this (praxis, not necessarily the

     result).

     >      Where

     >         are we at?  Is the Chair still engaging in negotiations?

     I ask

     >      that

     >         this be added to the e-agenda for the January meeting.

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        Unless there is a new proposal on the table, I don't see what

     there is

        to discuss. The LNC rejected the original proposal, and no one

     offered

        amendments. It seems there is little to no overall interest in

        furthering this.

        On Sat, Dec 22, 2018, 9:40 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business

        <[1[24]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org wrote:

             Here's my perspective:

             A proposal was brought forth.

             LNC discussed and gave feedback as to several changes that

     each

          of us

             would be more likely to consider.

             Presumably a counter offer was made with those requests or

          thoughts.

             The LNC formally rejected the original proposal.

             As far as I see it, I'm waiting on Koerner to get back to us

     with

          a

             reasonable proposal stemming from the feedback he has

     already

          received.

             Until I see another proposal, I don't have anything more to

          discuss on

             this because the original was rejected. I would rather the

     LP

          hold a

             contest to come up with voluntarily submitted branding ideas

          rather

             than pursue this idea where the contract was unreasonable

     and no

             response is being made to our public comment and our input

     for a

             renegotiation. Either Koerner wants to pursue this or not, I

     will

          not

             be further pursuing it for him.

             If the lack of negotiation stems from nobody on our end

     formally

             reaching out and negotiating the contract with him, despite

     his

             efforts, that is very irresponsible but the only person

     charged

          to do

             that from this body is Nick and I trust he has done what he

     has

          been

             charged with. I also trust that he hasn't gotten responses

     which

          is why

             nothing else has come before the body.

             I am very open and willing to discuss other proposals he

     brings

          forth,

             however, at this time, there is nothing on the table.

             Richard Longstreth

             Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT,

     WA,

          WY)

             Libertarian National Committee

             [1][2[25]]richard.longstreth at lp.org

             [26]931.538.9300

             Sent from my Mobile Device

             On Dec 21, 2018 23:18, "Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business"

             <[2][3[27]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

                  As I think I made clear during our last meeting, I was

          really

               unhappy

                  with how we handled this (praxis, not necessarily the

          result).

               Where

                  are we at?  Is the Chair still engaging in

     negotiations?  I

          ask

               that

                  this be added to the e-agenda for the January meeting.

                  --

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    [31] LPedia at LP.org

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                  2. [6][6][36]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/

                  3. [7][7][37]http://www.lp.org/

          References

             1. mailto:[8[38]]richard.longstreth at lp.org

             2. mailto:[9[39]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org

             3. [10][40]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/

             4. [11][41]http://www.LP.org/

             5. mailto:[12[42]]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org

             6. [13][43]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/

             7. [14][44]http://www.lp.org/

     References

        1. mailto[45]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org

        2. mailto[46]:richard.longstreth at lp.org

        3. mailto[47]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org

        4. [48]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/

        5. [49]http://www.LP.org/

        6. [50]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/

        7. [51]http://www.lp.org/

        8. mailto[52]:richard.longstreth at lp.org

        9. mailto[53]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org

       10. [54]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/

       11. [55]http://www.LP.org/

       12. mailto[56]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org

       13. [57]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/

       14. [58]http://www.lp.org/



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   4. mailto:]richard.longstreth at lp.org

   5. tel:931.538.9300

   6. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org

   7. http://Caryn.An/

   8. mailto: Harlos at LP.org

   9. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.

  10. mailto: LPedia at LP.org

  11. tel:561.523.2250

  12. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/

  13. http://www.LP.org/

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  20. http://www.LP.org/

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   Nope Caryn Ann.  Just several people do not agree with it.
   I see both sides and point out things on both.
   It is a good idea.  I spoke highly of it in Phoenix.  I thought the ask
   was a bit high, but honestly thought he was spitballing and his real
   proposal would be somewhat lower.  Then I talked to people I know who
   make a living in marketing on local and national levels.  As I said in
   our off list discussion they came back with a substantially lower
   number for what they would charge for a similar offer.
    Just because I like and really want that corvette for sale out there
   does not mean I am not going to check blue book on it before I drop
   cash on it, and if book value is substantially lower I may not come
   back knowing we are too far apart.
   I also agreed with you that asking what was going on with it was
   reasonable because apparently last time there was some confusion and
   some info we did not all have, tho I do not think it would have changed
   the outcome.
   I like his idea. I would love to pursue it further.  After due
   diligence at about 1/10 of his ask.  Unless he DRAMATICALLY increases
   his amount of consulting hours.  Also after we get our ducks in a row
   budget wise.
     We rail against Ds and Rs deficit spending, I for one am not going to
   be a hypocrite and support a deficit budget. Especially for that, if I
   was I would have pushed it elsewhere anyway, like ballot access or
   keeping at least 2 more great employees at full time.
   While yes this is branding, it also falls deep into candidate support,
   so maybe fundraising that to help?
   Also, I was led to believe that his team had leads on people willing to
   donate to fund it - part of the reason I misunderstood their desire to
   table it - if that is the case perhaps we need to let them do that
   before we reconsider the project.  If they showed up with 30k worth of
   committed donors that would change a lot of minds.
   John Phillips
   Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
   Cell [1]217-412-5973

   ------ Original message------
   From: Caryn Ann Harlos
   Date: Sat, Dec 22, 2018 1:58 PM
   To: [2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
   Cc: Whitney Bilyeu[3];john.phillips at lp.org;
   Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Koerner proposal
   I see my main point is lost.
   On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 12:47 PM [4]john.phillips--- via Lnc-business
   <[5]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

        I also know that some staff are pursuing fundraising training, so
     if we
        have the money to burn we could possibly bring them back to full
     time
        to pursue that.
        Competitions are free ;)
        John Phillips
        Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
        Cell [1][6]217-412-5973
        ------ Original message------
        From: Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business
        Date: Sat, Dec 22, 2018 1:39 PM
        To: [2][7]lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
        Cc: Joe Bishop-Henchman;Whitney Bilyeu;
        Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Koerner proposal
        I agree with Ms. Bilyeu.
        I'll add that we are nearly $100,000 behind on bills, so my
     preference
        is that we not pursue supplemental expenses or staff activity
        directives that are not fundraising related, at least until our
     bill
        backlog is stabilized. All new initiatives involve some amount of
     risk
        and I personally prefer we be risk-averse until we are no longer
     doing
        the equivalent of putting the electric bill into the water
     company
        envelope each month.
        Marketing initiatives are at best indirectly related to
     fundraising,
        and it's hard for me to see how this campaign will generate more
        revenue than its costs (both dollar and staff time) in the near
     future
        even if the costs are minimal. If we have $40,000 to burn let's
     hire
        another full time fundraiser to work the phones.
        JBH
        On Dec 22, 2018 11:45 AM, Whitney Bilyeu via Lnc-business
         wrote:
          Unless there is a new proposal on the table, I don't see what
     there
          is to
          discuss. The LNC rejected the original proposal, and no one
     offered
          amendments. It seems there is little to no overall interest in
          furthering
          this.
          On Sat, Dec 22, 2018, 9:40 AM Richard Longstreth via
     Lnc-business <
         [3] [8]lnc-business at hq.lp.org wrote:
          >    Here's my perspective:
          >    A proposal was brought forth.
          >    LNC discussed and gave feedback as to several changes that
     each
          of us
          >    would be more likely to consider.
          >    Presumably a counter offer was made with those requests or
          thoughts.
          >    The LNC formally rejected the original proposal.
          >    As far as I see it, I'm waiting on Koerner to get back to
     us
          with a
          >    reasonable proposal stemming from the feedback he has
     already
          received.
          >    Until I see another proposal, I don't have anything more
     to
          discuss on
          >    this because the original was rejected. I would rather the
     LP
          hold a
          >    contest to come up with voluntarily submitted branding
     ideas
          rather
          >    than pursue this idea where the contract was unreasonable
     and
          no
          >    response is being made to our public comment and our input
     for
          a
          >    renegotiation. Either Koerner wants to pursue this or not,
     I
          will not
          >    be further pursuing it for him.
          >    If the lack of negotiation stems from nobody on our end
          formally
          >    reaching out and negotiating the contract with him,
     despite his
          >    efforts, that is very irresponsible but the only person
     charged
          to do
          >    that from this body is Nick and I trust he has done what
     he has
          been
          >    charged with. I also trust that he hasn't gotten responses
          which is why
          >    nothing else has come before the body.
          >    I am very open and willing to discuss other proposals he
     brings
          forth,
          >    however, at this time, there is nothing on the table.
          >    Richard Longstreth
          >    Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI,
     UT,
          WA, WY)
          >    Libertarian National Committee
          >    [1[4]][9]richard.longstreth at lp.org
          >    [5][10]931.538.9300
          >    Sent from my Mobile Device
          >
          >    On Dec 21, 2018 23:18, "Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business"
          >    <[2[6]][11]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
          >
          >         As I think I made clear during our last meeting, I
     was
          really
          >      unhappy
          >         with how we handled this (praxis, not necessarily the
          result).
          >      Where
          >         are we at?  Is the Chair still engaging in
     negotiations?
          I ask
          >      that
          >         this be added to the e-agenda for the January
     meeting.
          >         --
          >           In Liberty,
          >
          [uc?id=1DeRjq-L8dvRZabgEG94VkkUvjoHatcfP&export=download]
          >         Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
          Secretary
          >         - [1][7][12]Caryn.Ann.[8][13] Harlos at LP.org or[9][14]
     Secretary at LP.org.
          >         Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
         [10][15] LPedia at LP.org
          >         Call me at [11][16]561.523.2250 and follow my public
     figure page
          >         at [2][3][12][17]facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
          >
          >

     ====================================================================
          >      ===
          >         ==
          >         Peaceful Commerce With All Nations *
     Non-interventionism *
          >      Re-Legalize
          >         All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom *
          Repeal All
          >      Gun
          >         Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market
     Money *
          Abolish
          >      The
          >         Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish
     The IRS
          and
          >      Repeal
          >         the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation
     Infrastructure *
          >      Free-market
          >         Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer
     Government
          Schools
          >      To
          >         The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation *
          >         VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or
     [3][4][13][18]http://www.LP.org
          >
          >

     ====================================================================
          >      ===
          >         ==
          >      References
          >         1. mailto:[5[14][19]]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
          >         2. [6][15][20]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
          >         3. [7][16][21]http://www.lp.org/
          >
          > References
          >
          >    1. mailto[17]:[22]richard.longstreth at lp.org
          >    2. mailto[18]:[23]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
          >    3. [19][24]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
          >    4. [20][25]http://www.LP.org/
          >    5. mailto[21][26]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
          >    6. [22][27]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
          >    7. [23][28]http://www.lp.org/
          >
             Unless there is a new proposal on the table, I don't see
     what
          there is
             to discuss. The LNC rejected the original proposal, and no
     one
          offered
             amendments. It seems there is little to no overall interest
     in
             furthering this.
             On Sat, Dec 22, 2018, 9:40 AM Richard Longstreth via
     Lnc-business
             <[1[24]][29]lnc-business at hq.lp.org wrote:
                  Here's my perspective:
                  A proposal was brought forth.
                  LNC discussed and gave feedback as to several changes
     that
          each
               of us
                  would be more likely to consider.
                  Presumably a counter offer was made with those requests
     or
               thoughts.
                  The LNC formally rejected the original proposal.
                  As far as I see it, I'm waiting on Koerner to get back
     to us
          with
               a
                  reasonable proposal stemming from the feedback he has
          already
               received.
                  Until I see another proposal, I don't have anything
     more to
               discuss on
                  this because the original was rejected. I would rather
     the
          LP
               hold a
                  contest to come up with voluntarily submitted branding
     ideas
               rather
                  than pursue this idea where the contract was
     unreasonable
          and no
                  response is being made to our public comment and our
     input
          for a
                  renegotiation. Either Koerner wants to pursue this or
     not, I
          will
               not
                  be further pursuing it for him.
                  If the lack of negotiation stems from nobody on our end
          formally
                  reaching out and negotiating the contract with him,
     despite
          his
                  efforts, that is very irresponsible but the only person
          charged
               to do
                  that from this body is Nick and I trust he has done
     what he
          has
               been
                  charged with. I also trust that he hasn't gotten
     responses
          which
               is why
                  nothing else has come before the body.
                  I am very open and willing to discuss other proposals
     he
          brings
               forth,
                  however, at this time, there is nothing on the table.
                  Richard Longstreth
                  Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR,
     HI, UT,
          WA,
               WY)
                  Libertarian National Committee
                  [1][2[25]][30]richard.longstreth at lp.org
                  [26][31]931.538.9300
                  Sent from my Mobile Device
                  On Dec 21, 2018 23:18, "Caryn Ann Harlos via
     Lnc-business"
                  <[2][3[27]][32]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
                       As I think I made clear during our last meeting, I
     was
               really
                    unhappy
                       with how we handled this (praxis, not necessarily
     the
               result).
                    Where
                       are we at?  Is the Chair still engaging in
          negotiations?  I
               ask
                    that
                       this be added to the e-agenda for the January
     meeting.
                       --
                         In Liberty,
               [uc?id=1DeRjq-L8dvRZabgEG94VkkUvjoHatcfP&export=download]
                       Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
     Committee
               Secretary
                       - [1][28][33]Caryn.Ann.[29][34] Harlos at LP.org
     or[30][35] Secretary at LP.org.
                       Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
         [31][36] LPedia at LP.org
                       Call me at [32][37]561.523.2250 and follow my
     public figure
          page
                       at
     [2][3][4][33][38]facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/

     ====================================================================
                    ===
                       ==
                       Peaceful Commerce With All Nations *
          Non-interventionism *
                    Re-Legalize
                       All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The
     Bedroom *
          Repeal
               All
                    Gun
                       Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market
     Money
          *
               Abolish
                    The
                       Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish
     The
          IRS
               and
                    Repeal
                       the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation
          Infrastructure *
                    Free-market
                       Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer
          Government
               Schools
                    To
                       The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation *
                       VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or
               [3][4][5][34][39]http://www.LP.org

     ====================================================================
                    ===
                       ==
                    References
                       1. mailto:[5[35][40]]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
                       2.
     [6][6][36][41]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
                       3. [7][7][37][42]http://www.lp.org/
               References
                  1. mailto:[8[38]][43]richard.longstreth at lp.org
                  2. mailto:[9[39]][44]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
                  3. [10][40][45]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
                  4. [11][41][46]http://www.LP.org/
                  5. mailto:[12[42][47]]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
                  6. [13][43][48]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
                  7. [14][44][49]http://www.lp.org/
          References
             1. mailto[45]:[50]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
             2. mailto[46]:[51]richard.longstreth at lp.org
             3. mailto[47]:[52]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
             4. [48][53]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
             5. [49][54]http://www.LP.org/
             6. [50][55]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
             7. [51][56]http://www.lp.org/
             8. mailto[52]:[57]richard.longstreth at lp.org
             9. mailto[53]:[58]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
            10. [54][59]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
            11. [55][60]http://www.LP.org/
            12. mailto[56][61]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
            13. [57][62]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
            14. [58][63]http://www.lp.org/
     References
        1. tel:[64]217-412-5973
        2. mailto:[65]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
        3. mailto: [66]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
        4. mailto:][67]richard.longstreth at lp.org
        5. tel:[68]931.538.9300
        6. mailto:][69]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
        7. [70]http://Caryn.An/
        8. mailto:[71] Harlos at LP.org
        9. mailto:[72] Secretary at LP.org.
       10. mailto:[73] LPedia at LP.org
       11. tel:[74]561.523.2250
       12. [75]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
       13. [76]http://www.LP.org/
       14. mailto:[77]]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
       15. [78]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
       16. [79]http://www.lp.org/
       17. mailto::[80]richard.longstreth at lp.org
       18. mailto::[81]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
       19. [82]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
       20. [83]http://www.LP.org/
       21. mailto:[84]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
       22. [85]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
       23. [86]http://www.lp.org/
       24. mailto:][87]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
       25. mailto:][88]richard.longstreth at lp.org
       26. tel:[89]931.538.9300
       27. mailto:][90]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
       28. [91]http://Caryn.An/
       29. mailto:[92] Harlos at LP.org
       30. mailto:[93] Secretary at LP.org.
       31. mailto:[94] LPedia at LP.org
       32. tel:[95]561.523.2250
       33. [96]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
       34. [97]http://www.LP.org/
       35. mailto:[98]]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
       36. [99]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
       37. [100]http://www.lp.org/
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       39. mailto:][102]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
       40. [103]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
       41. [104]http://www.LP.org/
       42. mailto:[105]]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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       44. [107]http://www.lp.org/
       45. mailto::[108]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
       46. mailto::[109]richard.longstreth at lp.org
       47. mailto::[110]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
       48. [111]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
       49. [112]http://www.LP.org/
       50. [113]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
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       52. mailto::[115]richard.longstreth at lp.org
       53. mailto::[116]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
       54. [117]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
       55. [118]http://www.LP.org/
       56. mailto:[119]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
       57. [120]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
       58. [121]http://www.lp.org/

   --
     In Liberty,
   [uc?id=1DeRjq-L8dvRZabgEG94VkkUvjoHatcfP&export=download]
   Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
   Secretary - [122]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or[123] Secretary at LP.org.
   Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[124] LPedia at LP.org
   Call me at [125]561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page
   at [126]facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
   =======================================================================
   ==
   Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
   All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
   Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The
   Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal
   the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market
   Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To
   The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation *
   VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or [127]http://www.LP.org
   =======================================================================
   ==

References

   1. tel:217-412-5973
   2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   3. mailto:;john.phillips at lp.org
   4. http://john.ph/
   5. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
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  14. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
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