[Lnc-business] Fwd: Resolution against the Wall
john.phillips at lp.org
john.phillips at lp.org
Sat Jan 19 14:08:44 EST 2019
It is however our responsibility to put out something the people who elected us would agree with.
Nor should we make statements that change the platform. That is why we have a procedure for that at convention. The current platform says unreasonably constrained, not open borders.
Not saying I would object to changing it at convention, but after having hammered into my head by you and others that sometimes there are reasons for these procedures, I becoming more reluctant to say fuck the rules in these cases.
I have made many anti-wall statements. Happy to make another, but let's do it right.
John Phillips
Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
Cell 217-412-5973
------ Original message------From: Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business Date: Sat, Jan 19, 2019 12:40 PMTo: lnc-business at hq.lp.org;Cc: Caryn Ann Harlos;Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Fwd: Resolution against the Wall
Okay here is where I have an issue. It is not our place to make something
everyone would agree with. The only question is - is it Libertarian and in
line with the SoP.
On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 11:38 AM Caryn Ann Harlos
wrote:
> We already put out an official statement of open borders in LP News
>
> On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 10:41 AM Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via
> Lnc-business wrote:
>
>> Personally, I fully agree with the resolution as worded but agree with
>> John that a slight recording of that last line to be more in line with the
>> wording of the National Platform can make it something all members (at
>> least most) can get behind and I'd gladly support with my sponsorship and
>> vote.
>>
>> Alex Merced
>> Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP
>>
>> > On Jan 19, 2019, at 12:13 PM, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business <
>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > The last line might create issues, large numbers of libertarians do
>> not
>> > support fully open borders, even if they agree the wall is a dumb
>> idea.
>> > John Phillips
>> > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>> > Cell [1]217-412-5973
>> >
>> > ------ Original message------
>> > From: Whitney Bilyeu via Lnc-business
>> > Date: Sat, Jan 19, 2019 11:02 AM
>> > To: [2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
>> > Cc: Whitney Bilyeu;
>> > Subject:[Lnc-business] Fwd: Resolution against the Wall
>> > This resolution was submitted to me by a region member for LNC
>> > consideration. It has been adopted by the Libertarian Parties of
>> Louisiana
>> > and Alabama, so far.
>> >
>> > --
>> > *Whitney Bilyeu*
>> > Libertarian National Committee
>> > Region 7 Representative
>> > [3]281.433.4966
>> >
>> > This resolution was submitted to me by a region member for LNC
>> > consideration. It has been adopted by the Libertarian Parties of
>> > Louisiana and Alabama, so far.
>> > --
>> > Whitney Bilyeu
>> > Libertarian National Committee
>> > Region 7 Representative
>> > [4]281.433.4966
>> >
>> > References
>> >
>> > 1. tel:217-412-5973
>> > 2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> > 3. tel:281.433.4966
>> > 4. tel:281.433.4966
>>
>> --
>
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Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
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* Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
* Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
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Okay here is where I have an issue. It is not our place to make
something everyone would agree with. The only question is - is it
Libertarian and in line with the SoP.
On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 11:38 AM Caryn Ann Harlos
<[1]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
We already put out an official statement of open borders in LP News
On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 10:41 AM Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via
Lnc-business <[2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
Personally, I fully agree with the resolution as worded but agree
with John that a slight recording of that last line to be more in
line with the wording of the National Platform can make it something
all members (at least most) can get behind and I'd gladly support
with my sponsorship and vote.
Alex Merced
Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP
> On Jan 19, 2019, at 12:13 PM, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business
<[3]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> The last line might create issues, large numbers of libertarians
do not
> support fully open borders, even if they agree the wall is a
dumb idea.
> John Phillips
> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> Cell [1]217-412-5973
>
> ------ Original message------
> From: Whitney Bilyeu via Lnc-business
> Date: Sat, Jan 19, 2019 11:02 AM
> To: [2][4]lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
> Cc: Whitney Bilyeu;
> Subject:[Lnc-business] Fwd: Resolution against the Wall
> This resolution was submitted to me by a region member for LNC
> consideration. It has been adopted by the Libertarian Parties of
Louisiana
> and Alabama, so far.
>
> --
> *Whitney Bilyeu*
> Libertarian National Committee
> Region 7 Representative
> [3]281.433.4966
>
> This resolution was submitted to me by a region member for LNC
> consideration. It has been adopted by the Libertarian Parties of
> Louisiana and Alabama, so far.
> --
> Whitney Bilyeu
> Libertarian National Committee
> Region 7 Representative
> [4]281.433.4966
>
> References
>
> 1. tel:217-412-5973
> 2. mailto:[5]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 3. tel:281.433.4966
> 4. tel:281.433.4966
--
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Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page
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All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The
Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal
the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market
Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To
The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation *
VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or [8]http://www.LP.org
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Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page
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All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The
Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal
the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market
Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To
The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation *
VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or [11]http://www.LP.org
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References
1. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
3. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
4. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
5. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
6. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
7. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
8. http://www.lp.org/
9. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
10. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
11. http://www.lp.org/
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It is however our responsibility to put out something the people who
elected us would agree with.
Nor should we make statements that change the platform. That is why we
have a procedure for that at convention. The current platform says
unreasonably constrained, not open borders.
Not saying I would object to changing it at convention, but after
having hammered into my head by you and others that sometimes there are
reasons for these procedures, I becoming more reluctant to say fuck the
rules in these cases.
I have made many anti-wall statements. Happy to make another, but let's
do it right.
John Phillips
Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
Cell [1]217-412-5973
------ Original message------
From: Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
Date: Sat, Jan 19, 2019 12:40 PM
To: [2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
Cc: Caryn Ann Harlos;
Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Fwd: Resolution against the Wall
Okay here is where I have an issue. It is not our place to make something
everyone would agree with. The only question is - is it Libertarian and in
line with the SoP.
On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 11:38 AM Caryn Ann Harlos
wrote:
> We already put out an official statement of open borders in LP News
>
> On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 10:41 AM Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via
> Lnc-business wrote:
>
>> Personally, I fully agree with the resolution as worded but agree with
>> John that a slight recording of that last line to be more in line with the
>> wording of the National Platform can make it something all members (at
>> least most) can get behind and I'd gladly support with my sponsorship and
>> vote.
>>
>> Alex Merced
>> Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP
>>
>> > On Jan 19, 2019, at 12:13 PM, [3]john.phillips--- via Lnc-business <
>>[4] lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > The last line might create issues, large numbers of libertarians do
>> not
>> > support fully open borders, even if they agree the wall is a dumb
>> idea.
>> > John Phillips
>> > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>> > Cell [1][5]217-412-5973
>> >
>> > ------ Original message------
>> > From: Whitney Bilyeu via Lnc-business
>> > Date: Sat, Jan 19, 2019 11:02 AM
>> > To: [2[6]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
>> > Cc: Whitney Bilyeu;
>> > Subject:[Lnc-business] Fwd: Resolution against the Wall
>> > This resolution was submitted to me by a region member for LNC
>> > consideration. It has been adopted by the Libertarian Parties of
>> Louisiana
>> > and Alabama, so far.
>> >
>> > --
>> > *Whitney Bilyeu*
>> > Libertarian National Committee
>> > Region 7 Representative
>> > [3][7]281.433.4966
>> >
>> > This resolution was submitted to me by a region member for LNC
>> > consideration. It has been adopted by the Libertarian Parties of
>> > Louisiana and Alabama, so far.
>> > --
>> > Whitney Bilyeu
>> > Libertarian National Committee
>> > Region 7 Representative
>> > [4][8]281.433.4966
>> >
>> > References
>> >
>> > 1. tel:[9]217-412-5973
>> > 2. mailto[10]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> > 3. tel:[11]281.433.4966
>> > 4. tel:[12]281.433.4966
>>
>> --
>
> * In Liberty,*
>
> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- [13]Caryn.A
nn.
>[14] Harlos at LP.org or[15] Secretary at LP.org.
> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* -[16] LPedia at LP.org
> Call me at [17]561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
> [18]facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>
> =========================================================================
> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
> Eliminate Regulation *
>
> *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or [19]http://www.LP.org *
> =========================================================================
>
--
* In Liberty,*
*Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- [20]Caryn.Ann
.[21]
Harlos at LP.org or[22] Secretary at LP.org.
*Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* -[23] LPedia at LP.org
Call me at [24]561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
[25]facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
=========================================================================
Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
* Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
* Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
Eliminate Regulation *
*VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or [26]http://www.LP.org *
=========================================================================
Okay here is where I have an issue. It is not our place to make
something everyone would agree with. The only question is - is it
Libertarian and in line with the SoP.
On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 11:38 AM Caryn Ann Harlos
<[1[27]]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
We already put out an official statement of open borders in LP News
On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 10:41 AM Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via
Lnc-business <[2[28]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
Personally, I fully agree with the resolution as worded but agree
with John that a slight recording of that last line to be more in
line with the wording of the National Platform can make it something
all members (at least most) can get behind and I'd gladly support
with my sponsorship and vote.
Alex Merced
Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP
> On Jan 19, 2019, at 12:13 PM, [29]john.phillips--- via Lnc-business
<[3[30]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> The last line might create issues, large numbers of libertarians
do not
> support fully open borders, even if they agree the wall is a
dumb idea.
> John Phillips
> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> Cell [1][31]217-412-5973
>
> ------ Original message------
> From: Whitney Bilyeu via Lnc-business
> Date: Sat, Jan 19, 2019 11:02 AM
> To: [2][4[32]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
> Cc: Whitney Bilyeu;
> Subject:[Lnc-business] Fwd: Resolution against the Wall
> This resolution was submitted to me by a region member for LNC
> consideration. It has been adopted by the Libertarian Parties of
Louisiana
> and Alabama, so far.
>
> --
> *Whitney Bilyeu*
> Libertarian National Committee
> Region 7 Representative
> [3][33]281.433.4966
>
> This resolution was submitted to me by a region member for LNC
> consideration. It has been adopted by the Libertarian Parties of
> Louisiana and Alabama, so far.
> --
> Whitney Bilyeu
> Libertarian National Committee
> Region 7 Representative
> [4][34]281.433.4966
>
> References
>
> 1. tel:[35]217-412-5973
> 2. mailto:[5[36]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 3. tel:[37]281.433.4966
> 4. tel:[38]281.433.4966
--
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Secretary - [6][39]Caryn.Ann.[40] Harlos at LP.org or[41] Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[42] LPedia at LP.org
Call me at [43]561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page
at [7][44]facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
=======================================================================
==
Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The
Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal
the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market
Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To
The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation *
VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or [8][45]http://www.LP.org
=======================================================================
==
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Secretary - [9][46]Caryn.Ann.[47] Harlos at LP.org or[48] Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[49] LPedia at LP.org
Call me at [50]561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page
at [10][51]facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
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==
Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The
Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal
the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market
Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To
The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation *
VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or [11][52]http://www.LP.org
=======================================================================
==
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7. [59]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
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9. mailto[61]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
10. [62]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
11. [63]http://www.lp.org/
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3. http://john.ph/
4. mailto: lnc-business at hq.lp.org
5. tel:217-412-5973
6. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
7. tel:281.433.4966
8. tel:281.433.4966
9. tel:217-412-5973
10. mailto::lnc-business at hq.lp.org
11. tel:281.433.4966
12. tel:281.433.4966
13. http://Caryn.An/
14. mailto: Harlos at LP.org
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16. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
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18. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
19. http://www.LP.org/
20. http://Caryn.An/
21. mailto:
Harlos at LP.org
22. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
23. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
24. tel:561.523.2250
25. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
26. http://www.LP.org/
27. mailto:]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
28. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
29. http://john.ph/
30. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
31. tel:217-412-5973
32. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
33. tel:281.433.4966
34. tel:281.433.4966
35. tel:217-412-5973
36. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
37. tel:281.433.4966
38. tel:281.433.4966
39. http://Caryn.An/
40. mailto: Harlos at LP.org
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42. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
43. tel:561.523.2250
44. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
45. http://www.LP.org/
46. http://Caryn.An/
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