[Lnc-business] DRAFT MINUTES - January 6, 2019 Electronic Meeting, V1

Thu Jan 24 18:36:44 EST 2019

My suggestion would be to reconstruct it for this last meeting using the 
audio record - my recollection was that Nick was pretty good about 
listing everyone for each main vote. We can all review it and make any 
corrections.

Going forward, if we're about to vote on a substantive motion and aren't 
doing so in a manner where the Secretary can record the roll, raise that 
point and I at least can back you up on making sure we do. The Bylaws 
are short and sweet on this: "The National Committee shall use roll call 
voting on all substantive motions."

Hope this helps.

JBH

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Joe Bishop-Henchman
LNC Member (At-Large)
joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837

On 2019-01-24 09:04, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> It is not roll call unless you are called on and answer.  That did not
> happen.  Nick will ask if I am ready with the roll call sheet and then
> proceed in a certain order.  I have the recording, and I can construct
> which ones Nick noted, but he did not make sure he noted each one each
> time, but I can include notations of this in an appendix as extra
> notes if the body wishes.  If each time is not called aloud and then
> that person answers, it is not a roll call, particularly when the
> chair says "raise your [electronic] hands".  You will also note that I
> will be including a link to the recording so I can also include a note
> that members can listen to get an idea of who voted which way (but it
> is not completely documented on the record as noted).
> 
> Let me know your pleasure.
> 
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 6:44 AM Joe Bishop-Henchman
> <joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org> wrote:
> 
>> My presumption was that the Secretary was tracking this and that we
>> didn't need to affirmatively request that the roll be recorded for
>> all
>> substantive motions.
>> 
>> I now know to do that. Going forward, consider me one vote for doing
>> a
>> roll call vote on all substantive motions (aside from those done
>> without
>> any objection).
>> 
>> JBH
>> 
>> ------------
>> Joe Bishop-Henchman
>> LNC Member (At-Large)
>> joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837 [1]
>> 
>> On 2019-01-24 00:51, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>> They were not taken as roll call votes and no one insisted
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 9:53 PM Tim Hagan via Lnc-business <
>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Shouldn't the main motions have a roll call list of Ayes and Nays
>>>> instead of saying "PASSED with a show of hands with a vote
>> count..."
>>>> since they are substantial? In particular, the top of page 6
>> (Goals),
>>>> top of page 11 (Alternates), and page 13 (ED Selection).
>>>> 
>>>> ---
>>>> Tim Hagan
>>>> Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
>>>> 
>>>> On 2019-01-21 21:48, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>>> As per Policy Manual 1.01.6:
>>>>> 
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>>>>> --
>>>>> 
>>>>> *  In Liberty,*
>>>>> 
>>>>> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
>> *-
>>>>> Caryn.Ann.
>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
>>>>> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
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>>>>> 
>> 
> =========================================================================
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>> Re-Legalize
>>>>> All
>>>>> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All
>> Gun Laws *
>>>>> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The
>> Fed * End
>>>>> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the
>> Income
>>>>> Tax
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> =========================================================================
>>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> *  In Liberty,*
>>> 
>>> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
>> 
>>> Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>>> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
>>> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
>>> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/ [2]
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> =========================================================================
>>> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism *
>> Re-Legalize
>>> All
>>> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
>> Laws *
>>> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed
>> * End
>>> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the
>> Income
>>> Tax
>>> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
>>> Services
>>> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private
>> Sector *
>>> Eliminate Regulation *
>>> 
>>> *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org
>>> <http://www.lp.org/>*
>>> 
>> 
> =========================================================================
> 
> --
> 
>   IN LIBERTY,
> __
> 
> LIBERTARIAN PARTY AND LIBERTARIAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE SECRETARY -
> Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> CHAIR, LP HISTORICAL PRESERVATION COMMITTEE - LPedia at LP.org
> 
> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/ [2]
> 
> =========================================================================
> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
> All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
> Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The
> Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal
> the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market
> Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To
> The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation *
> 
> VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US OR HTTP://WWW.LP.ORG [3]
> =========================================================================
> 
> 
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