[Lnc-business] DRAFT MINUTES LNC Meeting December 1-2, 2018 v4
Caryn Ann Harlos
caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Wed Jan 30 03:50:11 EST 2019
Thank you - I will take a look. Have you had a chance to review the 1/6
minutes?
On the last, that is not an entirely accurate account of the discussion on
the RONR forum. And in the past, when a member requested (Starchild often
did) and at my request you included a winsome story about the New Jersey
quarter, so I am not agreeing to that change. I know not all other members
feel we were out of line at that time, I do, and members of the gallery and
Mr. Koerner expresses appreciation at my protest, thus it is significant
and relevant.
On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 12:34 AM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> Below are my comments regarding version 4 of the December minutes.
>
> 1) My previous comments included, “p. 31, footnote 44 documents only part
> of the net -$2,000 change. A previous Mattson motion increased it by
> $8,000, then part H of the Henchman motion reduced it by $10,000 for the
> net change.”
>
> In version 4, the change was made to the wrong footnote. It was added to
> then-footnote-46, which is now-footnote-44 after the elimination of two
> other footnotes. What version 4 needs now is to delete the phrase “, and
> Henchman-Longstreth Proposal H, Ballot 181202-6” from footnote 44, and add
> “and Mattson amendments on page 22” to footnote 42.
>
>
> 2) My previous comments included that footnote 33 was factually incorrect,
> since three is the normal number of annual LNC meetings, thus it is not a
> reduction. To address that comment, version 4 merely changed the phrase
> “reducing the number of in-person LNC meetings to three…” to “limiting the
> number of in-person LNC meetings to three…” The same comment still applies
> to this new wording. Since three is the normal number, limiting it to
> three would not actually effect a reduction in that budget expense
> category. The LNC only voted on the dollar reduction, without specifying
> how it would be accomplished, though the footnote implies that debate
> comments by one or two people constituted some sort of group agreement.
>
>
> 3) I previously commented about the footnote which was then numbered 56,
> but is now numbered 54. Previously it merely indicated that you voted
> “present” and it was “counted as” an abstention, and I commented that is a
> distinction without a difference. After you inquired about it on an
> internet forum and were advised to not indulge the member requesting you to
> include the reason for their abstention in the minutes, version 4 has
> specifically added to the original phrasing an explanation that the
> abstention was a “protest” vote. Now one person’s abstention is explained,
> though others’ votes/abstentions are not explained.
>
> -Alicia
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 6:00 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> > I also uploaded to Dropbox
> > - [1]
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/zfvfwnu1xbgrprz/2018-12-01-02-MINUTES-V4
> > .pdf?dl=0
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 6:56 AM Caryn Ann Harlos
> > <[2]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
> >
> > It is attached... I see it on my email. You are not opening with AOL
> > are you? It was sent as a google drive link as it is a large file.
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 6:40 AM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business
> > <[3]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> > Ms. Harlos,
> > Where is the attachment?
> > ---
> > Sam Goldstein
> > Libertarian National Committee
> > 317-850-0726 Cell
> > On 2019-01-20 00:03, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> > > After reviewing Ms. Mattson's comments, attached please find
> > version 4
> > > of the draft minutes. Please advise of any comments or
> > corrections.
> > > If I do not hear otherwise, after time has passed, I will
> > asking for
> > > co-sponsors to put these up for an email vote.
> > > [1][icon_10_generic_list.png] 2018-12-01-02-MINUTES-V4.pdf
> > > [x_8px.png]
> > > --
> > > In Liberty,
> > > [uc?id=1DeRjq-L8dvRZabgEG94VkkUvjoHatcfP&export=download]
> > > Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
> > > - [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> > > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
> > > Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page
> > > at [3][4]facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> > >
> > >
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> > > Re-Legalize
> > > All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal
> > All Gun
> > > Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money *
> > Abolish The
> > > Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and
> > > Repeal
> > > the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure *
> > > Free-market
> > > Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government
> > Schools To
> > > The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation *
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> > >
> > > References
> > >
> > > 1.
> > >
> > [6]
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sHtAyO_RikgGmyJOHTb0cAnQfkc3hd8M
> > /view?usp=drive_web
> > > 2. mailto:[7]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> > > 3. [8]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> > > 4. [9]http://www.lp.org/
> >
> > --
> >
> > In Liberty,
> > [uc?id=1DeRjq-L8dvRZabgEG94VkkUvjoHatcfP&export=download]
> > Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
> > Secretary - [10]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
> > Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page
> > at [11]facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> >
> =======================================================================
> > ==
> > Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
> > All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
> > Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The
> > Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal
> > the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market
> > Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To
> > The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation *
> > VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or [12]http://www.LP.org
> >
> =======================================================================
> > ==
> >
> > --
> >
> > In Liberty,
> > [uc?id=1DeRjq-L8dvRZabgEG94VkkUvjoHatcfP&export=download]
> > Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
> > Secretary - [13]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
> > Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page
> > at [14]facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> >
> =======================================================================
> > ==
> > Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
> > All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
> > Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The
> > Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal
> > the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market
> > Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To
> > The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation *
> > VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or [15]http://www.LP.org
> >
> =======================================================================
> > ==
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1.
> >
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/zfvfwnu1xbgrprz/2018-12-01-02-MINUTES-V4.pdf?dl=0
> > 2. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
> > 3. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> > 4. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> > 5. http://www.LP.org/
> > 6.
> >
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sHtAyO_RikgGmyJOHTb0cAnQfkc3hd8M/view?usp=drive_web
> > 7. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> > 8. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> > 9. http://www.lp.org/
> > 10. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> > 11. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> > 12. http://www.lp.org/
> > 13. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> > 14. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> > 15. http://www.lp.org/
> >
>
--
* In Liberty,*
*Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
*Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
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Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
* Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
* Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
Eliminate Regulation *
*VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/>*
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