[Lnc-business] Fwd: Resolution against the Wall
Richard Longstreth
richard.longstreth at lp.org
Fri Feb 1 10:14:11 EST 2019
I would also cosponsor the newest version.
As an FYI, I've reached out to my state chairs on this. Most have no
opinion or didn't respond to my request for input.
Richard Longstreth
Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY)
Libertarian National Committee
richard.longstreth at lp.org
931.538.9300
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On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 23:50 john.phillips--- via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org wrote:
> I knew we could work it out. Since my email formatting hates me, can you
> repost it with the correct line breaks and stuff?John PhillipsLibertarian
> National Committee Region 6 RepresentativeCell 217-412-5973------ Original
> message------From: Caryn Ann HarlosDate: Fri, Feb 1, 2019 12:43 AMTo:
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org;Cc: john.phillips at lp.org;Subject:Re:
> [Lnc-business] Fwd: Resolution against the WallYes I would co sponsor
> thatOn Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 11:30 PM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:Making it like thisWHEREAS, the Libertarian
> Party believes that the only proper role of law is in the protection of the
> natural rights of individuals from the initiation of force or
> fraud;WHEREAS, no individual has a natural right to prohibit consensual
> visitation to or consensual habitation on the private property of another
> individual;WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party believes that eminent domain is a
> violation of private property rights;WHEREAS, we affirm the right of
> individuals to set whatever standards they wish for entry onto their own
> private property but not that owned by others;WHEREAS, we believe that all
> individuals have the same natural rights regardless of their
> citizenship;WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party holds that any concerns related
> to the border, valid or otherwise, are better addressed by removing the
> root causes of such concerns. Actions such as ending the War on Drugs,
> decriminalization of sex work, ending the welfare state, and allowing free
> trade would not only address those concerns, but do so in a budget positive
> way rather than costing billions;WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party
> acknowledges that economic freedom demands the unrestricted movement of
> human as well as financial capital across national borders:NOW, THEREFORE,
> BE IT RESOLVED that the Libertarian Party condemns and opposes efforts to
> build a governmental border wall, be it through congress or gross abuse of
> authority in an ill-founded declaration of emergency.BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED
> that the Libertarian Party supports the natural right of freedom of
> movement of all peaceful people, for any reason, subject only to rights of
> other individuals to control their own privately owned property.John
> PhillipsLibertarian National Committee Region 6 RepresentativeCell
> 217-412-5973------ Original message------From: john.phillips--- via
> Lnc-businessDate: Fri, Feb 1, 2019 12:14 AMTo: john.phillips--- via
> Lnc-business;Cc: john.phillips at lp.org;Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Fwd:
> Resolution against the WallI am totally good with that change Caryn
> Ann.John PhillipsLibertarian National Committee Region 6 RepresentativeCell
> 217-412-5973------ Original message------From: Caryn Ann HarlosDate: Fri,
> Feb 1, 2019 12:09 AMTo: john.phillips at lp.org;Cc: Caryn Ann Harlos via
> Lnc-business;Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Fwd: Resolution against the
> WallThat adds peaceful and acknowledges the only kind of restrictions.On
> Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 11:08 PM Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:I don’t object to the
> wording per se but the resolved clause merely repeats a whereas
> clause.Perhaps the resolved could be BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the
> Libertarian Party supports the natural right of freedom of movement of all
> peaceful people, for any reason, subject only to rights of other
> individuals to control their own privately owned property.On Thu, Jan 31,
> 2019 at 10:56 PM john.phillips at lp.org wrote:
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> Something like this. WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party believes that the
> only proper role of law is in the protection of the natural rights of
> individuals from the initiation of force or fraud;WHEREAS, no individual
> has a natural right to prohibit consensual visitation to or consensual
> habitation on the private property of another individual;WHEREAS, the
> Libertarian Party believes that eminent domain is a violation of private
> property rights;WHEREAS, we affirm the right of individuals to set whatever
> standards they wish for entry onto their own private property but not that
> owned by others;WHEREAS, we believe that all individuals have the same
> natural rights regardless of their citizenship;WHEREAS, the Libertarian
> Party holds that any concerns related to the border, valid or otherwise,
> are better addressed by removing the root causes of such concerns. Actions
> such as ending the War on Drugs, decriminalization of sex work, ending the
> welfare state, and allowing free trade would not only address those
> concerns, but do so in a budget positive way rather than costing
> billions;WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party acknowledges that economic freedom
> demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital
> across national borders:NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Libertarian
> Party condemns and opposes efforts to build a governmental border wall, be
> it through congress or gross abuse of authority in an ill-founded
> declaration of emergency.BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Libertarian Party
> supports the natural right of freedom of movement for all, including across
> political boundaries.John PhillipsLibertarian National Committee Region
> 6 RepresentativeCell 217-412-5973------ Original message------From: Caryn
> Ann HarlosDate: Thu, Jan 31, 2019 11:12 PMTo: john.phillips at lp.org;Cc:
> Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business;Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Fwd:
> Resolution against the WallSend me with your proposed wordingOn Thu, Jan
> 31, 2019 at 9:32 PM john.phillips at lp.org wrote:
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> Bringing this one back up. I do believe a resolution against the wall
> is important. I just worry about us overstepping, which is a matter of
> principle for me, just like government overstepping. What if we simply
> changed it to "freedom of movement" or wording like that? Or even "freedom
> of movement across political boundaries"?John PhillipsLibertarian National
> Committee Region 6 RepresentativeCell 217-412-5973------ Original
> message------From: Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-businessDate: Sat, Jan 19, 2019
> 12:40 PMTo: lnc-business at hq.lp.org;Cc: Caryn Ann Harlos;Subject:Re:
> [Lnc-business] Fwd: Resolution against the WallOkay here is where I have an
> issue. It is not our place to make something
> everyone would agree with. The only question is - is it Libertarian and in
> line with the SoP.
>
> On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 11:38 AM Caryn Ann Harlos
> wrote:
>
> > We already put out an official statement of open borders in LP News
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 10:41 AM Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via
> > Lnc-business wrote:
> >
> >> Personally, I fully agree with the resolution as worded but agree with
> >> John that a slight recording of that last line to be more in line with
> the
> >> wording of the National Platform can make it something all members (at
> >> least most) can get behind and I'd gladly support with my sponsorship
> and
> >> vote.
> >>
> >> Alex Merced
> >> Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP
> >>
> >> > On Jan 19, 2019, at 12:13 PM, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business <
> >> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > The last line might create issues, large numbers of libertarians do
> >> not
> >> > support fully open borders, even if they agree the wall is a dumb
> >> idea.
> >> > John Phillips
> >> > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> >> > Cell [1]217-412-5973
> >> >
> >> > ------ Original message------
> >> > From: Whitney Bilyeu via Lnc-business
> >> > Date: Sat, Jan 19, 2019 11:02 AM
> >> > To: [2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
> >> > Cc: Whitney Bilyeu;
> >> > Subject:[Lnc-business] Fwd: Resolution against the Wall
> >> > This resolution was submitted to me by a region member for LNC
> >> > consideration. It has been adopted by the Libertarian Parties of
> >> Louisiana
> >> > and Alabama, so far.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > *Whitney Bilyeu*
> >> > Libertarian National Committee
> >> > Region 7 Representative
> >> > [3]281.433.4966
> >> >
> >> > This resolution was submitted to me by a region member for LNC
> >> > consideration. It has been adopted by the Libertarian Parties of
> >> > Louisiana and Alabama, so far.
> >> > --
> >> > Whitney Bilyeu
> >> > Libertarian National Committee
> >> > Region 7 Representative
> >> > [4]281.433.4966
> >> >
> >> > References
> >> >
> >> > 1. tel:217-412-5973
> >> > 2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >> > 3. tel:281.433.4966
> >> > 4. tel:281.433.4966
> >>
> >> --
> >
> > * In Liberty,*
> >
> > *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
> Caryn.Ann.
> > Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> > *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
> > Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
> > facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> >
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> > Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
> > Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income
> Tax
> > * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
> Services
> > * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
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> >
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>
> * In Liberty,*
>
> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
> Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>
> =========================================================================
> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
> Eliminate Regulation *
>
> *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org *
> =========================================================================
>
> Okay here is where I have an issue. It is not our place to make
> something everyone would agree with. The only question is - is it
> Libertarian and in line with the SoP.
>
> On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 11:38 AM Caryn Ann Harlos
> <[1]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>
> We already put out an official statement of open borders in LP News
>
> On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 10:41 AM Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via
> Lnc-business <[2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> Personally, I fully agree with the resolution as worded but agree
> with John that a slight recording of that last line to be more in
> line with the wording of the National Platform can make it something
> all members (at least most) can get behind and I'd gladly support
> with my sponsorship and vote.
> Alex Merced
> Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP
> > On Jan 19, 2019, at 12:13 PM, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business
> <[3]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> > The last line might create issues, large numbers of libertarians
> do not
> > support fully open borders, even if they agree the wall is a
> dumb idea.
> > John Phillips
> > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> > Cell [1]217-412-5973
> >
> > ------ Original message------
> > From: Whitney Bilyeu via Lnc-business
> > Date: Sat, Jan 19, 2019 11:02 AM
> > To: [2][4]lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
> > Cc: Whitney Bilyeu;
> > Subject:[Lnc-business] Fwd: Resolution against the Wall
> > This resolution was submitted to me by a region member for LNC
> > consideration. It has been adopted by the Libertarian Parties of
> Louisiana
> > and Alabama, so far.
> >
> > --
> > *Whitney Bilyeu*
> > Libertarian National Committee
> > Region 7 Representative
> > [3]281.433.4966
> >
> > This resolution was submitted to me by a region member for LNC
> > consideration. It has been adopted by the Libertarian Parties of
> > Louisiana and Alabama, so far.
> > --
> > Whitney Bilyeu
> > Libertarian National Committee
> > Region 7 Representative
> > [4]281.433.4966
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. tel:217-412-5973
> > 2. mailto:[5]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> > 3. tel:281.433.4966
> > 4. tel:281.433.4966
>
> --
>
> In Liberty,
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> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
> Secretary - [6]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page
> at [7]facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
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> ==
> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
> All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
> Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The
> Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal
> the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market
> Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To
> The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation *
> VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or [8]http://www.LP.org
> =======================================================================
> ==
>
> --
>
> In Liberty,
> [uc?id=1DeRjq-L8dvRZabgEG94VkkUvjoHatcfP&export=download]
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
> Secretary - [9]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page
> at [10]facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> =======================================================================
> ==
> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
> All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
> Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The
> Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal
> the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market
> Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To
> The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation *
> VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or [11]http://www.LP.org
> =======================================================================
> ==
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
> 2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 3. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 4. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 5. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 6. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> 7. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> 8. http://www.lp.org/
> 9. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> 10. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> 11. http://www.lp.org/
>
>
>
> -- In Liberty,Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
> Secretary - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.Chair, LP
> Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.orgCall me at 561.523.2250
> and follow my public figure page at
> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/=========================================================================Peaceful
> Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All Drugs *
> End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws * Abolish All
> Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End Corporate &
> Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax * Privatize
> Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services * Open
> Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector * Eliminate
> Regulation * VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org
> =========================================================================
>
>
>
> -- In Liberty,Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
> Secretary - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.Chair, LP
> Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.orgCall me at 561.523.2250
> and follow my public figure page at
> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/=========================================================================Peaceful
> Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All Drugs *
> End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws * Abolish All
> Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End Corporate &
> Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax * Privatize
> Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services * Open
> Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector * Eliminate
> Regulation * VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org
> =========================================================================
> -- In Liberty,Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
> Secretary - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.Chair, LP
> Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.orgCall me at 561.523.2250
> and follow my public figure page at
> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/=========================================================================Peaceful
> Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All Drugs *
> End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws * Abolish All
> Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End Corporate &
> Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax * Privatize
> Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services * Open
> Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector * Eliminate
> Regulation * VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org
> =========================================================================
> -- In Liberty,Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
> Secretary - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.Chair, LP
> Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.orgCall me at 561.523.2250
> and follow my public figure page at
> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/=========================================================================Peaceful
> Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All Drugs *
> End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws * Abolish All
> Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End Corporate &
> Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax * Privatize
> Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services * Open
> Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector * Eliminate
> Regulation * VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org
> =========================================================================
>
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