[Lnc-business] Fwd: Resolution against the Wall

john.phillips at lp.org john.phillips at lp.org
Fri Feb 1 17:36:31 EST 2019


CAH, Richard, me, Alex - looks like 4John PhillipsLibertarian National Committee Region 6 RepresentativeCell 217-412-5973------ Original message------From: Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via Lnc-businessDate: Fri, Feb 1, 2019 3:38 PMTo: lnc-business at hq.lp.org;Cc: Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair);Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Fwd: Resolution against the WallI will cosponsor as well

Alex Merced
Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP

> On Feb 1, 2019, at 10:14 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business  wrote:
> 
> I would also cosponsor the newest version.
> 
> As an FYI, I've reached out to my state chairs on this. Most have no
> opinion or didn't respond to my request for input.
> 
> Richard Longstreth
> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY)
> Libertarian National Committee
> richard.longstreth at lp.org
> 931.538.9300
> 
> Sent from my Mobile Device
> 
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 23:50 john.phillips--- via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org wrote:
> 
>> I knew we could work it out.  Since my email formatting hates me, can you
>> repost it with the correct line breaks and stuff?John PhillipsLibertarian
>> National Committee Region 6 RepresentativeCell 217-412-5973------ Original
>> message------From: Caryn Ann HarlosDate: Fri, Feb 1, 2019 12:43 AMTo:
>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org;Cc: john.phillips at lp.org;Subject:Re:
>> [Lnc-business] Fwd: Resolution against the WallYes I would co sponsor
>> thatOn Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 11:30 PM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business <
>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:Making it like thisWHEREAS, the Libertarian
>> Party believes that the only proper role of law is in the protection of the
>> natural rights of individuals from the initiation of force or
>> fraud;WHEREAS, no individual has a natural right to prohibit consensual
>> visitation to or consensual habitation on the private property of another
>> individual;WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party believes that eminent domain is a
>> violation of private property rights;WHEREAS, we affirm the right of
>> individuals to set whatever standards they wish for entry onto their own
>> private property but not that owned by others;WHEREAS, we believe that all
>> individuals have the same natural rights regardless of their
>> citizenship;WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party holds that any concerns related
>> to the border, valid or otherwise, are better addressed by removing the
>> root causes of such concerns.  Actions such as ending the War on Drugs,
>> decriminalization of sex work, ending the welfare state, and allowing free
>> trade would not only address those concerns, but do so in a budget positive
>> way rather than costing billions;WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party
>> acknowledges that economic freedom demands the unrestricted movement of
>> human as well as financial capital across national borders:NOW, THEREFORE,
>> BE IT RESOLVED that the Libertarian Party condemns and opposes efforts to
>> build a governmental border wall, be it through congress or gross abuse of
>> authority in an ill-founded declaration of emergency.BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED
>> that the Libertarian Party supports the natural right of freedom of
>> movement of all peaceful people, for any reason, subject only to rights of
>> other individuals to control their own privately owned property.John
>> PhillipsLibertarian National Committee Region 6 RepresentativeCell
>> 217-412-5973------ Original message------From: john.phillips--- via
>> Lnc-businessDate: Fri, Feb 1, 2019 12:14 AMTo: john.phillips--- via
>> Lnc-business;Cc: john.phillips at lp.org;Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Fwd:
>> Resolution against the WallI am totally good with that change Caryn
>> Ann.John PhillipsLibertarian National Committee Region 6 RepresentativeCell
>> 217-412-5973------ Original message------From: Caryn Ann HarlosDate: Fri,
>> Feb 1, 2019 12:09 AMTo: john.phillips at lp.org;Cc: Caryn Ann Harlos via
>> Lnc-business;Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Fwd: Resolution against the
>> WallThat adds peaceful and acknowledges the only kind of restrictions.On
>> Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 11:08 PM Caryn Ann Harlos  wrote:I don’t object to the
>> wording per se but the resolved clause merely repeats a whereas
>> clause.Perhaps the resolved could be BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the
>> Libertarian Party supports the natural right of freedom of movement of all
>> peaceful people, for any reason, subject only to rights of other
>> individuals to control their own privately owned property.On Thu, Jan 31,
>> 2019 at 10:56 PM john.phillips at lp.org  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>    Something like this. WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party believes that the
>> only proper role of law is in the protection of the natural rights of
>> individuals from the initiation of force or fraud;WHEREAS, no individual
>> has a natural right to prohibit consensual visitation to or consensual
>> habitation on the private property of another individual;WHEREAS, the
>> Libertarian Party believes that eminent domain is a violation of private
>> property rights;WHEREAS, we affirm the right of individuals to set whatever
>> standards they wish for entry onto their own private property but not that
>> owned by others;WHEREAS, we believe that all individuals have the same
>> natural rights regardless of their citizenship;WHEREAS, the Libertarian
>> Party holds that any concerns related to the border, valid or otherwise,
>> are better addressed by removing the root causes of such concerns.  Actions
>> such as ending the War on Drugs, decriminalization of sex work, ending the
>> welfare state, and allowing free trade would  not only address those
>> concerns, but do so in a budget positive way rather than costing
>> billions;WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party acknowledges that economic freedom
>> demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital
>> across national borders:NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Libertarian
>> Party condemns and opposes efforts to build a governmental border wall, be
>> it through congress or gross abuse of authority in an ill-founded
>> declaration of emergency.BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Libertarian Party
>> supports the natural right of freedom of movement for all, including across
>> political boundaries.John PhillipsLibertarian National Committee Region
>> 6 RepresentativeCell 217-412-5973------ Original message------From: Caryn
>> Ann HarlosDate: Thu, Jan 31, 2019 11:12 PMTo: john.phillips at lp.org;Cc:
>> Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business;Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Fwd:
>> Resolution against the WallSend me with your proposed wordingOn Thu, Jan
>> 31, 2019 at 9:32 PM john.phillips at lp.org  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>    Bringing this one back up.  I do believe a resolution against the wall
>> is important.  I just worry about us overstepping, which is a matter of
>> principle for me, just like government overstepping. What if we simply
>> changed it to "freedom of movement" or wording like that?  Or even "freedom
>> of movement across political boundaries"?John PhillipsLibertarian National
>> Committee Region 6 RepresentativeCell 217-412-5973------ Original
>> message------From: Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-businessDate: Sat, Jan 19, 2019
>> 12:40 PMTo: lnc-business at hq.lp.org;Cc: Caryn Ann Harlos;Subject:Re:
>> [Lnc-business] Fwd: Resolution against the WallOkay here is where I have an
>> issue.  It is not our place to make something
>> everyone would agree with.  The only question is - is it Libertarian and in
>> line with the SoP.
>> 
>> On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 11:38 AM Caryn Ann Harlos
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> We already put out an official statement of open borders in LP News
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 10:41 AM Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via
>>> Lnc-business  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Personally, I fully agree with the resolution as worded but agree with
>>>> John that a slight recording of that last line to be more in line with
>> the
>>>> wording of the National Platform can make it something all members (at
>>>> least most) can get behind and I'd gladly support with my sponsorship
>> and
>>>> vote.
>>>> 
>>>> Alex Merced
>>>> Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 19, 2019, at 12:13 PM, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business <
>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  The last line might create issues, large numbers of libertarians do
>>>> not
>>>>>  support fully open borders, even if they agree the wall is a dumb
>>>> idea.
>>>>>  John Phillips
>>>>>  Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>>>>>  Cell [1]217-412-5973
>>>>> 
>>>>>  ------ Original message------
>>>>>  From: Whitney Bilyeu via Lnc-business
>>>>>  Date: Sat, Jan 19, 2019 11:02 AM
>>>>>  To: [2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
>>>>>  Cc: Whitney Bilyeu;
>>>>>  Subject:[Lnc-business] Fwd: Resolution against the Wall
>>>>> This resolution was submitted to me by a region member for LNC
>>>>> consideration. It has been adopted by the Libertarian Parties of
>>>> Louisiana
>>>>> and Alabama, so far.
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> *Whitney Bilyeu*
>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>>> Region 7 Representative
>>>>> [3]281.433.4966
>>>>> 
>>>>>  This resolution was submitted to me by a region member for LNC
>>>>>  consideration. It has been adopted by the Libertarian Parties of
>>>>>  Louisiana and Alabama, so far.
>>>>>  --
>>>>>  Whitney Bilyeu
>>>>>  Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>  Region 7 Representative
>>>>>  [4]281.433.4966
>>>>> 
>>>>> References
>>>>> 
>>>>>  1. tel:217-412-5973
>>>>>  2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>  3. tel:281.433.4966
>>>>>  4. tel:281.433.4966
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>> 
>>> *  In Liberty,*
>>> 
>>> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
>> Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org  or Secretary at LP.org.
>>> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
>>> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
>>> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>>> 
>>> =========================================================================
>>> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
>> All
>>> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
>>> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
>>> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income
>> Tax
>>> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
>> Services
>>> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
>>> Eliminate Regulation *
>>> 
>>> *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org *
>>> =========================================================================
>>> 
>> --
>> 
>> *  In Liberty,*
>> 
>> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
>> Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org  or Secretary at LP.org.
>> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
>> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
>> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>> 
>> =========================================================================
>> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
>> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
>> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
>> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
>> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
>> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
>> Eliminate Regulation *
>> 
>> *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org *
>> =========================================================================
>> 
>>   Okay here is where I have an issue.  It is not our place to make
>>   something everyone would agree with.  The only question is - is it
>>   Libertarian and in line with the SoP.
>> 
>>   On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 11:38 AM Caryn Ann Harlos
>>   <[1]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>> 
>>   We already put out an official statement of open borders in LP News
>> 
>>   On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 10:41 AM Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via
>>   Lnc-business <[2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> 
>>     Personally, I fully agree with the resolution as worded but agree
>>     with John that a slight recording of that last line to be more in
>>     line with the wording of the National Platform can make it something
>>     all members (at least most) can get behind and I'd gladly support
>>     with my sponsorship and vote.
>>     Alex Merced
>>     Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP
>>> On Jan 19, 2019, at 12:13 PM, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business
>>     <[3]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  The last line might create issues, large numbers of libertarians
>>     do not
>>>  support fully open borders, even if they agree the wall is a
>>     dumb idea.
>>>  John Phillips
>>>  Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>>>  Cell [1]217-412-5973
>>> 
>>>  ------ Original message------
>>>  From: Whitney Bilyeu via Lnc-business
>>>  Date: Sat, Jan 19, 2019 11:02 AM
>>>  To: [2][4]lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
>>>  Cc: Whitney Bilyeu;
>>>  Subject:[Lnc-business] Fwd: Resolution against the Wall
>>> This resolution was submitted to me by a region member for LNC
>>> consideration. It has been adopted by the Libertarian Parties of
>>     Louisiana
>>> and Alabama, so far.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> *Whitney Bilyeu*
>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>> Region 7 Representative
>>> [3]281.433.4966
>>> 
>>>  This resolution was submitted to me by a region member for LNC
>>>  consideration. It has been adopted by the Libertarian Parties of
>>>  Louisiana and Alabama, so far.
>>>  --
>>>  Whitney Bilyeu
>>>  Libertarian National Committee
>>>  Region 7 Representative
>>>  [4]281.433.4966
>>> 
>>> References
>>> 
>>>  1. tel:217-412-5973
>>>  2. mailto:[5]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>  3. tel:281.433.4966
>>>  4. tel:281.433.4966
>> 
>>     --
>> 
>>     In Liberty,
>>   [uc?id=1DeRjq-L8dvRZabgEG94VkkUvjoHatcfP&export=download]
>>   Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
>>   Secretary - [6]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>>   Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>   Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page
>>   at [7]facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>>   =======================================================================
>>   ==
>>   Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
>>   All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
>>   Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The
>>   Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal
>>   the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market
>>   Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To
>>   The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation *
>>   VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or [8]http://www.LP.org
>>   =======================================================================
>>   ==
>> 
>>   --
>> 
>>     In Liberty,
>>   [uc?id=1DeRjq-L8dvRZabgEG94VkkUvjoHatcfP&export=download]
>>   Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
>>   Secretary - [9]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>>   Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>   Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page
>>   at [10]facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>>   =======================================================================
>>   ==
>>   Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
>>   All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
>>   Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The
>>   Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal
>>   the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market
>>   Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To
>>   The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation *
>>   VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or [11]http://www.LP.org
>>   =======================================================================
>>   ==
>> 
>> References
>> 
>>   1. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>   2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>   3. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>   4. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>   5. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>   6. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>   7. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>>   8. http://www.lp.org/
>>   9. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>  10. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>>  11. http://www.lp.org/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --   In Liberty,Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
>> Secretary - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.Chair, LP
>> Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.orgCall me at 561.523.2250
>> and follow my public figure page at
>> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/=========================================================================Peaceful
>> Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All Drugs *
>> End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws * Abolish All
>> Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End Corporate &
>> Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax * Privatize
>> Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services * Open
>> Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector * Eliminate
>> Regulation * VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org
>> =========================================================================
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --   In Liberty,Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
>> Secretary - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.Chair, LP
>> Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.orgCall me at 561.523.2250
>> and follow my public figure page at
>> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/=========================================================================Peaceful
>> Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All Drugs *
>> End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws * Abolish All
>> Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End Corporate &
>> Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax * Privatize
>> Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services * Open
>> Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector * Eliminate
>> Regulation * VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org
>> =========================================================================
>> --   In Liberty,Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
>> Secretary - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.Chair, LP
>> Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.orgCall me at 561.523.2250
>> and follow my public figure page at
>> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/=========================================================================Peaceful
>> Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All Drugs *
>> End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws * Abolish All
>> Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End Corporate &
>> Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax * Privatize
>> Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services * Open
>> Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector * Eliminate
>> Regulation * VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org
>> =========================================================================
>> --   In Liberty,Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
>> Secretary - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.Chair, LP
>> Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.orgCall me at 561.523.2250
>> and follow my public figure page at
>> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/=========================================================================Peaceful
>> Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All Drugs *
>> End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws * Abolish All
>> Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End Corporate &
>> Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax * Privatize
>> Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services * Open
>> Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector * Eliminate
>> Regulation * VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org
>> =========================================================================
>> 




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