[Lnc-business] Seeking co-sponsors

Elizabeth Van Horn elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
Sat Feb 2 01:48:48 EST 2019


For the record, I don't support any resolutions currently on our email 
list.

With that said, I'll point out that several people on this list aren't 
familiar with the details or facts of what Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam 
has said or done.  (see previous emails where some thought the "KKK" pic 
was from high school, but it was from college, etc.)

Now, Caryn Ann has mentioned not once, but twice, "infanticide 
comments".  I hope she knows what Northham said, because he didn't 
endorse or say anything that was about "infanticide".  Except to refute 
media twisting his words and making that accusation.



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Elizabeth Van Horn


On 2019-02-02 01:29, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> I went to start the ballot but there isn’t even a full resolution yet 
> or
> does the chair wish to sponsor as is?
> 
> I put the body on notice that I will seek sponsors to add language 
> about
> his infanticide comments.
> 
> I will await the chairs pleasure.
> 
> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 11:15 PM Caryn Ann Harlos 
> <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> Oh and the public can take this to mean his RECENT infanticide 
>> comments
>> are just fine right?
>> 
>> Repudiated photo from decades ago bad.  Support for killing  babies 
>> last
>> week, meh.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 10:54 PM Caryn Ann Harlos 
>> <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I’ll get the ballot started shortly since the chair expedited.
>>> 
>>> Good thing no one said national chairs shouldn’t compare ballot 
>>> access to
>>> the persecution of black folks.  I mean that would be outrageously
>>> unforgivable.
>>> 
>>> Needless to say I will be voting no.  We can’t affirm property rights 
>>> but
>>> want to assuage our latent white guilt by passing judgment on a 
>>> repented of
>>> act over three decades ago.
>>> 
>>> We are the party of redemption not self-righteous mobs.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 10:25 PM Justin O'Donnell via Lnc-business <
>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> During our 2016 convention, particularly during the presidential 
>>>> debate,
>>>> a question was asked regarding restoring 2nd amendment rights to 
>>>> felons. I
>>>> believe Darryl Perry's response to that question is something to 
>>>> take to
>>>> heart in this matter. The gist of it was, that if you believe that 
>>>> some
>>>> people are completely beyond hope, and beyond all possible growth or
>>>> rehabilitation, then you don't believe in the spirit of humanity and
>>>> forgiveness, and accept that some people are just 100% bad. And if 
>>>> you
>>>> believe that some people cannot grow and better themselves, and are 
>>>> rotten
>>>> by their very nature, then you don't believe that libertarian 
>>>> philosophy
>>>> can ever be tested at large, because there would always be an 
>>>> element of
>>>> society that could never be trusted to exercise their own rights.
>>>> 
>>>> This motion would ask us to condemn a man for an attitude and 
>>>> beliefs he
>>>> held in high school, decades ago, before I was even born 29 years 
>>>> ago. If
>>>> we were to consider that as a proper use of station, then I believe 
>>>> it also
>>>> prudent that we first examine ourselves to ensure that we cast no 
>>>> stones
>>>> from a glass house. I know myself, when I was in highschool, 15 
>>>> short years
>>>> ago, a product of stern conservative upbringing in an ethnically 
>>>> homogenous
>>>> wealthy suburb of Boston, was often of the type of mind where I and 
>>>> my
>>>> friends would have found humor in the very actions we're busy 
>>>> condemning
>>>> today. If I, in a much shorter period of time can grow to understand 
>>>> the
>>>> wrong and abhor the culture of hate which I once embraced, then I 
>>>> have to
>>>> believe that anyone can.
>>>> 
>>>> I would oppose this resolution, and would urge everyone else to as 
>>>> well.
>>>> We shouldn't be in the business of capitalizing on sensationalized
>>>> controversy in an effort to satisfy a politically correct outrage 
>>>> culture,
>>>> unless we aim to forget where our principles and hearts truly lie.
>>>> 
>>>> Justin O'Donnell
>>>> LNC Region 8 Representative
>>>> 
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