[Lnc-business] Seeking co-sponsors

[Elizabeth Van Horn]

So you're for redemption, but ok making up false accusations?  Because 
any mention of infanticide would be false.

Or, so hungry for blood that you'll bear false witness?

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Elizabeth Van Horn


On 2019-02-02 02:07, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> I know his words quite well.  If we are in a resolution mood today ill 
> let
> everyone oppose adding that  - might as well get the full spectrum of
> virtue signaling showboating.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 12:05 AM Caryn Ann Harlos 
> <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> No one denies it was racist to do.
>> 
>> And I’m just waiting for the Party xcavation on everyone here.
>> 
>> It was shitty. He repented.  He didn’t dodge.
>> 
>> Justin nailed it.  We believe in redemption.
>> 
>> There was a joke cartoon on the four of an old boss - is it the God of 
>> the
>> Old Testament or the New Testsment today?
>> 
>> People change.  I choose redemption.
>> 
>> You who are so hungry for blood- there will be someone wanting yours 
>> one
>> day and to mix religious metaphors- karma is a bitch.
>> 
>> -Caryn Ann
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 11:29 PM Caryn Ann Harlos 
>> <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I went to start the ballot but there isn’t even a full resolution yet 
>>> or
>>> does the chair wish to sponsor as is?
>>> 
>>> I put the body on notice that I will seek sponsors to add language 
>>> about
>>> his infanticide comments.
>>> 
>>> I will await the chairs pleasure.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 11:15 PM Caryn Ann Harlos 
>>> <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Oh and the public can take this to mean his RECENT infanticide 
>>>> comments
>>>> are just fine right?
>>>> 
>>>> Repudiated photo from decades ago bad.  Support for killing  babies 
>>>> last
>>>> week, meh.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 10:54 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>> caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I’ll get the ballot started shortly since the chair expedited.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good thing no one said national chairs shouldn’t compare ballot 
>>>>> access
>>>>> to the persecution of black folks.  I mean that would be 
>>>>> outrageously
>>>>> unforgivable.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Needless to say I will be voting no.  We can’t affirm property 
>>>>> rights
>>>>> but want to assuage our latent white guilt by passing judgment on a
>>>>> repented of act over three decades ago.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We are the party of redemption not self-righteous mobs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 10:25 PM Justin O'Donnell via Lnc-business <
>>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> During our 2016 convention, particularly during the presidential
>>>>>> debate, a question was asked regarding restoring 2nd amendment 
>>>>>> rights to
>>>>>> felons. I believe Darryl Perry's response to that question is 
>>>>>> something to
>>>>>> take to heart in this matter. The gist of it was, that if you 
>>>>>> believe that
>>>>>> some people are completely beyond hope, and beyond all possible 
>>>>>> growth or
>>>>>> rehabilitation, then you don't believe in the spirit of humanity 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> forgiveness, and accept that some people are just 100% bad. And if 
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> believe that some people cannot grow and better themselves, and 
>>>>>> are rotten
>>>>>> by their very nature, then you don't believe that libertarian 
>>>>>> philosophy
>>>>>> can ever be tested at large, because there would always be an 
>>>>>> element of
>>>>>> society that could never be trusted to exercise their own rights.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This motion would ask us to condemn a man for an attitude and 
>>>>>> beliefs
>>>>>> he held in high school, decades ago, before I was even born 29 
>>>>>> years ago.
>>>>>> If we were to consider that as a proper use of station, then I 
>>>>>> believe it
>>>>>> also prudent that we first examine ourselves to ensure that we 
>>>>>> cast no
>>>>>> stones from a glass house. I know myself, when I was in 
>>>>>> highschool, 15
>>>>>> short years ago, a product of stern conservative upbringing in an
>>>>>> ethnically homogenous wealthy suburb of Boston, was often of the 
>>>>>> type of
>>>>>> mind where I and my friends would have found humor in the very 
>>>>>> actions
>>>>>> we're busy condemning today. If I, in a much shorter period of 
>>>>>> time can
>>>>>> grow to understand the wrong and abhor the culture of hate which I 
>>>>>> once
>>>>>> embraced, then I have to believe that anyone can.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would oppose this resolution, and would urge everyone else to as
>>>>>> well. We shouldn't be in the business of capitalizing on 
>>>>>> sensationalized
>>>>>> controversy in an effort to satisfy a politically correct outrage 
>>>>>> culture,
>>>>>> unless we aim to forget where our principles and hearts truly lie.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Justin O'Donnell
>>>>>> LNC Region 8 Representative
>>>>>>