[Lnc-business] Seeking co-sponsors

[Elizabeth Van Horn]

Really?!  Because, you were all for the circus.  You even already did
the "bearing false witness" thing, when you wrote: 
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"Oh and the public can take this to mean his RECENT infanticide comments
are
> just fine right?
> 
> Repudiated photo from decades ago bad. Support for killing babies last
> week, meh."
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Only Northam didn't say anything about killing babies or even anything
that implied it.  But, that didn't stop people from *twisting* his words
and spreading lies around.  

Oh, and meanwhile, the photo?  It's not repudiated.  It's real. 

---
Elizabeth Van Horn

On 2019-02-02 02:27, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:

> Suit yourself EVH not interested in this circus. 
> 
> Consider that my one and done. 
> 
> On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 12:11 AM Elizabeth Van Horn <elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote: 
> 
>> So you're for redemption, but ok making up false accusations?  Because 
>> any mention of infanticide would be false.
>> 
>> Or, so hungry for blood that you'll bear false witness?
>> 
>> ---
>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>> 
>> On 2019-02-02 02:07, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>> I know his words quite well.  If we are in a resolution mood today ill 
>>> let
>>> everyone oppose adding that  - might as well get the full spectrum of
>>> virtue signaling showboating.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 12:05 AM Caryn Ann Harlos 
>>> <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> No one denies it was racist to do.
>>>> 
>>>> And I'm just waiting for the Party xcavation on everyone here.
>>>> 
>>>> It was shitty. He repented.  He didn't dodge.
>>>> 
>>>> Justin nailed it.  We believe in redemption.
>>>> 
>>>> There was a joke cartoon on the four of an old boss - is it the God of 
>>>> the
>>>> Old Testament or the New Testsment today?
>>>> 
>>>> People change.  I choose redemption.
>>>> 
>>>> You who are so hungry for blood- there will be someone wanting yours 
>>>> one
>>>> day and to mix religious metaphors- karma is a bitch.
>>>> 
>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 11:29 PM Caryn Ann Harlos 
>>>> <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I went to start the ballot but there isn't even a full resolution yet 
>>>>> or
>>>>> does the chair wish to sponsor as is?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I put the body on notice that I will seek sponsors to add language 
>>>>> about
>>>>> his infanticide comments.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I will await the chairs pleasure.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 11:15 PM Caryn Ann Harlos 
>>>>> <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Oh and the public can take this to mean his RECENT infanticide 
>>>>>> comments
>>>>>> are just fine right?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Repudiated photo from decades ago bad.  Support for killing  babies 
>>>>>> last
>>>>>> week, meh.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 10:54 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>> caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'll get the ballot started shortly since the chair expedited.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Good thing no one said national chairs shouldn't compare ballot 
>>>>>>> access
>>>>>>> to the persecution of black folks.  I mean that would be 
>>>>>>> outrageously
>>>>>>> unforgivable.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Needless to say I will be voting no.  We can't affirm property 
>>>>>>> rights
>>>>>>> but want to assuage our latent white guilt by passing judgment on a
>>>>>>> repented of act over three decades ago.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We are the party of redemption not self-righteous mobs.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 10:25 PM Justin O'Donnell via Lnc-business <
>>>>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> During our 2016 convention, particularly during the presidential
>>>>>>>> debate, a question was asked regarding restoring 2nd amendment 
>>>>>>>> rights to
>>>>>>>> felons. I believe Darryl Perry's response to that question is 
>>>>>>>> something to
>>>>>>>> take to heart in this matter. The gist of it was, that if you 
>>>>>>>> believe that
>>>>>>>> some people are completely beyond hope, and beyond all possible 
>>>>>>>> growth or
>>>>>>>> rehabilitation, then you don't believe in the spirit of humanity 
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> forgiveness, and accept that some people are just 100% bad. And if 
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> believe that some people cannot grow and better themselves, and 
>>>>>>>> are rotten
>>>>>>>> by their very nature, then you don't believe that libertarian 
>>>>>>>> philosophy
>>>>>>>> can ever be tested at large, because there would always be an 
>>>>>>>> element of
>>>>>>>> society that could never be trusted to exercise their own rights.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This motion would ask us to condemn a man for an attitude and 
>>>>>>>> beliefs
>>>>>>>> he held in high school, decades ago, before I was even born 29 
>>>>>>>> years ago.
>>>>>>>> If we were to consider that as a proper use of station, then I 
>>>>>>>> believe it
>>>>>>>> also prudent that we first examine ourselves to ensure that we 
>>>>>>>> cast no
>>>>>>>> stones from a glass house. I know myself, when I was in 
>>>>>>>> highschool, 15
>>>>>>>> short years ago, a product of stern conservative upbringing in an
>>>>>>>> ethnically homogenous wealthy suburb of Boston, was often of the 
>>>>>>>> type of
>>>>>>>> mind where I and my friends would have found humor in the very 
>>>>>>>> actions
>>>>>>>> we're busy condemning today. If I, in a much shorter period of 
>>>>>>>> time can
>>>>>>>> grow to understand the wrong and abhor the culture of hate which I 
>>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>>> embraced, then I have to believe that anyone can.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I would oppose this resolution, and would urge everyone else to as
>>>>>>>> well. We shouldn't be in the business of capitalizing on 
>>>>>>>> sensationalized
>>>>>>>> controversy in an effort to satisfy a politically correct outrage 
>>>>>>>> culture,
>>>>>>>> unless we aim to forget where our principles and hearts truly lie.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Justin O'Donnell
>>>>>>>> LNC Region 8 Representative
>>>>>>>> 
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