[Lnc-business] LP Presidential Debates c/o Arvin Vohra

[Sam Goldstein]

Ms. Harlos,

1. The debates must be open to all declared Libertarian candidates.


2. The debates must not use underhanded or indirect methods to keep out 
particular candidates (e.g. setting the debate at a time that would be 
bizarre for some U.S. time zones)


3. The debates must not suffer from majorly distracting audio issues, 
including feedback, heavy static, and the like.

So if there are over 20 declared candidates, as with the Democrats 
currently, who is going to keep track of them to make sure they were all 
included, as required in #1,  in a dozen or more debates.

Read #2 and tell me it is not totally subjective.  Who is going to take 
the time to make those judgments for every debate that someone stages 
over the next 22 or so months?  Lauren has already said that staff has 
many other priorities and the LNC is not in the business of setting 
standards for other people or entities.

I'm honestly surprised that you would co-sponsor such a potential 
fiasco.


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Sam Goldstein
Libertarian National Committee
317-850-0726 Cell

On 2019-03-30 16:31, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> I feel like I entered the twilight zone.
> 
> They don’t have to care- it’s our standards.
> 
> And it’s not terribly subjective since everyone mentioned audio and 
> video
> quality.  It seems we all know it when we see it.
> 
> I’m honestly very surprised this is contentroversial.
> 
> -Caryn Ann
> 
> 
> On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 1:59 PM Phil Anderson <phillip.anderson at lp.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> I think the impression here is that the LNC would be mandating 
>> standards
>> on what would be published on our site. The question for those 
>> entities
>> sponsoring debates is, do they care whether we publish them?
>> 
>> Setting that aside, because of the subjectivity of the standards Arvin
>> proposes and the wide array of situations in which debates are held or
>> sponsored, I'm against. Delegates can get the information about 
>> candidates
>> however they choose. There is plenty of opportunity.
>> 
>> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 2:49 PM -0500, "Caryn Ann Harlos" <
>> caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>> 
>> The reaction seems a bit out of proportion.
>>> 
>>> I’m going to say something I rarely say because too many people, 
>>> contrary
>>> to our bylaws, say this is our only purpose—-  aren’t we hear to 
>>> elect
>>> candidates?
>>> 
>>> Are we seriously arguing that having a link storehouse of debates for 
>>> our
>>> top of ticket nomination is wasting staff time????
>>> 
>>> I think we forget the purpose of conventions.  It’s not themes, 
>>> speakers,
>>> and locations.  It’s for delegates to consider amendments to our 
>>> governing
>>> docs, elect national committee, and every other convention to choose 
>>> our
>>> top ticket candidates.
>>> 
>>> How do delegates intelligently pick candidates?  One would hope 
>>> debates
>>> are a big part instead of just whatever barely one foot out of the
>>> Republican Party exploiter tells us.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 1:26 PM Phil Anderson via Lnc-business <
>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I concur with Sam and Justin.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Get Outlook for Android
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 8:04 AM -0500, "Justin O'Donnell via
>>>> Lnc-business" <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I concurr with Sam. I understand and agree with the spirit if 
>>>> Arvin's
>>>> request, and if and when we decide to sponsor "official" debates I 
>>>> would
>>>> consider this request reasonable. But I will oppose trying to 
>>>> regulate a
>>>> bunch of independent podcasts.
>>>> 
>>>> Justin O'Donnell
>>>> LNC Region 8 Representative
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>> 
>>> *  In Liberty,*
>>> 
>>> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- 
>>> Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>>> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
>>> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
>>> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>>> 
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>>> End
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>>> Income Tax
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>>> Services
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>>> *
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>>> 
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>> --
> 
> *  In Liberty,*
> 
> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- 
> Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> 
> =========================================================================
> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize 
> All
> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income 
> Tax
> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency 
> Services
> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
> Eliminate Regulation *
> 
> *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org 
> <http://www.lp.org/>*
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