[Lnc-business] EMAIL BALLOT 190331-1 Approve ED

Mon Apr 1 11:17:27 EDT 2019

That’s not the motion I was asked to make.

Listen, to me, this is where rules for the sake of rules goes awol, and
that’s nit what rules are for IMHO.

I just needed to bring it up.

On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 9:03 AM Whitney Bilyeu <whitney.bilyeu at lp.org> wrote:

> Doesn't it say EPCC approved OR approved by the majority of the fixed LNC
> membership? This would mean EPCC doesn't have to approve it, as long as the
> LNC does by majority...
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 9:42 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
>> I don’t want to be that guy, but.....
>>
>> After considering Ms. Mattson’s email I don’t think the policy manual has
>> been complied with.  The non-compliance is technical rather than
>> substantive but at what point can the EPCC be said to have approved?
>> Whatever date that is, ten days have to elapse from there.
>>
>> -Caryn Ann
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 7:57 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business <
>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Thank you for clarifying the approval of the contract. I have reviewed
>> and
>> > have no objections. I vote Yes.
>> >
>> > Richard Longstreth
>> > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
>> > Libertarian National Committee
>> > richard.longstreth at lp.org
>> > 931.538.9300
>> >
>> > Sent from my Mobile Device
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 1, 2019, 06:48 Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business <
>> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Dear Richard,
>> > >
>> > > The contract has already been reviewed by counsel, the EPCC, and is
>> > > acceptable to the candidate, so terms are already finalized.
>> > >
>> > > The LNC vote is required to approve the candidate according to the
>> > > revised Policy Manual, so that's why this vote is on that single
>> > > issue.
>> > >
>> > > Yours truly,
>> > > Nick
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 4:18 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business
>> > > <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Judging by Mr Bishop-Henchman's inquiry above (showing the EPCC has
>> not
>> > > > approved of the contract) and Ms Mattson's understandings of our
>> > policies
>> > > > (where the LNC has also not approved the contract), I take this
>> motion
>> > to
>> > > > be out of order. If the contract has not been approved, why is the
>> LNC
>> > > > being asked to approve the candidate; unless it is the chair's
>> thought
>> > to
>> > > > approve the candidate prior to the contract being submitted through
>> the
>> > > > proper channels for approval? That seems backwards to me. In
>> business,
>> > > I've
>> > > > always had the terms of employment finalized before hiring a
>> candidate
>> > -
>> > > > this should be no different.
>> > > >
>> > > > Please advise. I am prepared to vote pending the procedural
>> inquiries
>> > are
>> > > > addressed and I am clear on what I am voting for.
>> > > >
>> > > > Richard
>> > > >
>> > > > On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 10:47 PM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
>> > > > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > NS>  Technically, the LNC approves the selection, but I execute
>> the
>> > > > > contract.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > There is a little more to it than just that summary.  I presume
>> that
>> > I
>> > > will
>> > > > > be able to vote yes on this motion after reviewing the contract
>> > terms,
>> > > but
>> > > > > I do just want to ask for confirmation that our other contract
>> > approval
>> > > > > policies have been met.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Policy Manual Section 2.02.8, which describes the role of the
>> EPCC,
>> > > > > requires that, "Following General Counsel’s review of a
>> > director-level
>> > > > > employment contract, the EPCC shall review the proposed contract
>> and
>> > > any
>> > > > > related advice from General Counsel.  No such contract may be
>> signed
>> > > by the
>> > > > > Chair without having first obtained either EPCC approval of the
>> > > contract at
>> > > > > least 10 days prior, or an affirmative vote from a majority of the
>> > > fixed
>> > > > > membership of the LNC."
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The LNC should at least be informed that our counsel has reviewed
>> the
>> > > > > contract.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Also, since the LNC is not in this motion being asked to approve
>> the
>> > > > > contract, the LNC should be informed that the EPCC has already
>> > > approved the
>> > > > > contract.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > As LNC members review copies of the contract, we should be
>> confirming
>> > > that
>> > > > > it meets the listed requirements in PM Section 2.01.3.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I'm requesting a copy of the contract, and I agree to keep it
>> > > confidential.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -Alicia
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 9:12 PM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business
>> <
>> > > > > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Technically, the LNC approves the selection, but I execute the
>> > > contract.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > If you would like to review the proposed contract, please email
>> me
>> > > and
>> > > > > > let me know you will keep it confidential.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > -Nick
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 9:02 PM Joe Bishop-Henchman via
>> > Lnc-business
>> > > > > > <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Would this motion constitute approval of the contract? If not,
>> > > would it
>> > > > > > > be preferable to combine them into the same motion?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > JBH
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > ------------
>> > > > > > > Joe Bishop-Henchman
>> > > > > > > LNC Member (At-Large)
>> > > > > > > joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> > > > > > > www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On 2019-03-31 23:54, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>> > > > > > > > We have an electronic mail ballot.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by April 7, 2019 at
>> > > 11:59:59
>> > > > > pm
>> > > > > > > > Pacific time.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Sponsor:  Sarwark
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > =============================================
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Motion: Move to approve the selection of Daniel Fishman as
>> > > Executive
>> > > > > > > > Director.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > =============================================
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes
>> > here:
>> > > > > > > > https://tinyurl.com/lncvotes2019.  Votes are noted with a
>> link
>> > > to
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time
>> that
>> > > the
>> > > > > > > > manual
>> > > > > > > > tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Please notify me of any discrepancies.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > *  In Liberty,*
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
>> Secretary
>> > > *-
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>> > > > > > > > Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or
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>> > > > --
>> > > > Richard Longstreth
>> > > > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
>> > > > Libertarian National Committee
>> > > > richard.longstreth at lp.org
>> > > > 931.538.9300
>> > >
>> >
>> --
>>
>> *  In Liberty,*
>>
>> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
>> Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
>> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
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>> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
>> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
>> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
>> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
>> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
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>
>
> --
> *Whitney Bilyeu*
> Libertarian National Committee
> Region 7 Representative
> 281.433.4966
>
> --

*  In Liberty,*

*Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
*Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
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Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
* Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
* Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
Eliminate Regulation *

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