[Lnc-business] Resolution Condemning Conversion Therapies

Fri Apr 12 14:26:06 EDT 2019

I sponsor.

So we have me, Phillips, Longstreth

Mr Smith can you agree to this one?  Or Mr Merced?

I’m at the AR convention so might be a little slow

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 1:00 PM John Phillips <john.phillips at lp.org> wrote:

> *Mr Lyons.  Sorry Jeff, trying to go to fast.
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> John Phillips
> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> Cell 217-412-5973
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> On Apr 12, 2019 12:22 PM, John Phillips via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
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> She did, and she also helped Mr Lynch with his.
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> Absolutely.  Safe Travels.
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> Here is Ms Harlos' tweaked alternate proposal.
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> "WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party asserts that all individuals have the
> right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives, and have the right to
> live in whatever manner they choose, so long as they do not forcibly
> interfere with the equal right of others to live in whatever manner they
> choose;
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> WHEREAS while children have not reached sufficient maturity to be the full
> custodian of their rights which are entrusted to their parents or
> guardians, their rights to bodily integrity and personal identification of
> their growing awareness of who they are inalienable and coerced action that
> would fundamentally deny these rights is abusive;
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> WHEREAS, parents, or other guardians, have the right to raise their
> children according to their own standards and beliefs, provided that the
> rights of children to be free from abuse and neglect are also protected;
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> WHEREAS, conversion therapy has been used in the past as a form of
> punishment for homosexuality and gender identity which does not conform to
> traditional expectations; and the rights to gender and sexual identity are
> fundamental rights;
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> WHEREAS, this conversion therapy has it's roots in unethical treatment
> used since the 70's in issues such as drug use, psychiatric disorders, and
> learning disabilities, that describe humiliation, sleep deprivation, sexual
> abuse, starvation, and isolation as "treatment techniques", methods that in
> any other pursuit are considered cruel and unusual punishment and torture;
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> WHEREAS, children are often subjected to this type of therapy against
> their will, even by loving and well-intentioned parents who are unaware
> that the methods used in conversion therapy are extremely forceful and
> abusive;
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> WHEREAS, any therapy similar to this has been shown to result in suicide
> attempts by 20% of these patients: a five-fold increase in the risk of
> suicide attempts compared to other teens, increases that are the same as
> other victims of repeated abuse, an increased risk that continues through
> later life;
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> THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that therapy modeled off these abusive
> institutions, protected and/or funded by the State, constitutes consumer
> fraud and forceful abuse, which the Libertarian Party opposes.
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> FURTHER, BE IT RESOLVED, the Libertarian Party opposes subjecting
> unwilling participants through force or coercion, especially children, to
> any therapy that violates the non-aggression principle through any method
> that would be considered abuse or torture."
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> John Phillips
> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> Cell 217-412-5973
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> On Apr 12, 2019 12:01 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> wrote:
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> Ms Lynch approved enthusiastically of the one I proposed.  Mr. Phillips,
> I’m in a plane right to - can you post mine for consideration.
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> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 11:45 AM Jeff Lyons via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
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> I'd be open to broadening the scope to include things that Ms. Lynch, whom
> is an expert, wished to be included but I also want a resolution that is
> specific and impactful in creating conversations with young rebellious
> future Libertarian voters.
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> Thanks again John.
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> -Jeff
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> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 12:21 PM -0400, "John Phillips" <
> john.phillips at lp.org> wrote:
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> I would support and co-sponsor EITHER resolution. The one Mr Lyons and I
> worked on, or the one Ms Harlos authored and I tweaked just a bit.  Both
> are good, both address the needs in different ways, with different pros and
> cons.
> The short answer is that this type of "therapy" is absolutely negative and
> torturous to those forced into it.  We should 100% be against both torture
> and force, and are, so lets find a way to make this work.
> Perhaps Ms Harlos would share hers here for more discussion?
> I do not find the two mutually exclusive, and think even a combination
> would work, tho perhaps be overly long.
> I know Ms Lynch has helped with both, and her input is more than welcome.
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> John Phillips
> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> Cell 217-412-5973
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Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
* Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
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Eliminate Regulation *

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