[Lnc-business] EMAIL BALLOT 190419-1 Opposition to Conversion Therapy Resolution

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

Mr. Bishop-Henchman, it got to be a tangled mess.  Post that alternate here
please.  I’ve no issue starting a second ballot.

On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 4:04 PM Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> I vote no.
>
> I had objected to the language in the first resolved clause because it
> has us *opposing* state legislative proposals to ban conversion therapy,
> by suggesting that existing laws against fraud and abuse are adequate to
> address this problem. They are not adequate - kids trapped in these
> programs are not able to hire a lawyer and institute a civil action for
> fraud - which is why half the states have moved to revise their
> statutes. People who *support* conversion therapy are the ones saying
> that new laws are not needed. I would support us saying nothing, and I
> would support us supporting bans on conversion therapy, but I cannot
> support us opposing bans on conversion therapy as unnecessary
> legislation, which is what this resolved clause states.
>
> I did work with the sponsors on replacement language, which they all
> (including Ms. Harlos) accepted. I don't know whether the sponsors
> directed Ms. Harlos to revert it, or whether it happened out of
> confusion, but I cannot support it as it now stands.
>
> JBH
>
> ------------
> Joe Bishop-Henchman
> LNC Member (At-Large)
> joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>
> On 2019-04-19 11:12, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> > We have an electronic mail ballot.
> >
> > Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by April 26, 2019 at 11:59:59 pm
> > Pacific time.
> >
> > Co-Sponsors:  Harlos, Longstreth, Merced, O'Donnell, Phillips
> >
> >
> > =============================================
> >
> > Resolution:
> >
> > WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party asserts that all individuals have the
> > right
> > to exercise sole dominion over their own lives, and have the right to
> > live
> > in whatever manner they choose, so long as they do not forcibly
> > interfere
> > with the equal right of others to live in whatever manner they choose;
> >
> > WHEREAS, although children have not reached sufficient maturity to be
> > the
> > full custodian of their rights which are temporarily entrusted to their
> > parents or guardians, their rights to bodily integrity and intimate
> > personal identification, are inalienable and coerced action that would
> > fundamentally deny these rights is abusive;
> >
> > WHEREAS, parents, or other guardians, have the right to raise
> > their children according to their own standards and beliefs, provided
> > that
> > the rights of children to be free from abuse and neglect are also
> > protected;
> >
> > WHEREAS, conversion therapy has been used in the past as a form of
> > punishment for homosexuality and gender identity which does not conform
> > to
> > traditional expectations; and the rights to gender and sexual identity
> > are
> > fundamental rights;
> >
> > WHEREAS, this conversion therapy has it's roots in unethical treatment
> > used
> > since the 70's in issues such as drug use, psychiatric disorders, and
> > learning disabilities, that describe humiliation, sleep deprivation,
> > sexual
> > abuse, starvation, and isolation as "treatment techniques";
> >
> > WHEREAS, children are often subjected to this type of therapy against
> > their
> > will, even by loving and well-intentioned parents who are unaware that
> > the
> > methods used in conversion therapy are extremely forceful and abusive,
> > and
> > that any therapy similar to this has been shown to result in
> > suicide attempts by 20% of these patients: a five-fold increase in the
> > risk
> > of suicide attempts compared to other teens;
> >
> > THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that therapy modeled off these abusive
> > institutions, protected and/or funded by the State, constitutes
> > consumer
> > fraud and forceful abuse, which the Libertarian Party opposes, and we
> > oppose all laws allowing such.
> >
> > FURTHER, BE IT RESOLVED, the Libertarian Party opposes subjecting
> > unwilling
> > participants through force or coercion, especially children, to any
> > therapy
> > that violates the non-aggression principle through any method that
> > would be
> > considered abuse or torture.
> >
> > =============================================
> >
> > You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
> > https://tinyurl.com/190419-1.  Votes are noted with a link to the
> > actual
> > ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual
> > tally
> > was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
> >
> > Please notify me of any discrepancies.
> >
> > --
> >
> > *  In Liberty,*
> >
> > *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
> > Caryn.Ann.
> > Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> > *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
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*  In Liberty,*

*Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
*Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/

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Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
* Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
* Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
Eliminate Regulation *

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