[Lnc-business] LNC v. FEC - decision and next steps

Wed May 22 09:39:30 EDT 2019

We are spending a good chunk of the bequest fighting this when we do have
perfectly good need of it in funds that the FEC allows.  Why?

On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 6:44 AM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> Tim,
>
> Thanks for your response.
>
> I'd like to hear an opinion from our legal counsel that we are not just
> tilting at windmill by
> take this to the SCOTUS before we spend scarce resources.
>
>
>
> ---
> Sam Goldstein
> Libertarian National Committee
> 317-850-0726 Cell
>
> On 2019-05-22 02:18, Tim Hagan via Lnc-business wrote:
> > The Legal Offense Fund has $0. It was used up in April 2018.
> >
> > We budgeted $4500 this year for the FEC lawsuit in the Litigation
> > budget line. The Litigation budget line also has $4000 for costs of
> > the Kentucky Educational Television lawsuit the LNC lost and $10,000
> > for Ballot Access legal expenses.
> >
> > With a petition for certiorari costing $5k to $10k, the Litigation
> > budget line will need to be increased to file it, unless if we expect
> > to spend less on ballot access legal expenses.
> >
> > ---
> > Tim Hagan
> > Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
> >
> > On 2019-05-21 20:22, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:
> >> Mr. Hagan,
> >>
> >> What, if anything, is left in the Legal Offense fund for this year?
> >> It is adequate to cover the Chair's estimate of $5k-$10k just for a
> >> petition for certiorari?
> >>
> >> ---
> >> Sam Goldstein
> >> Libertarian National Committee
> >> 317-850-0726 Cell
> >>
> >> On 2019-05-21 23:10, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> >>> In for a penny, in for a pound.  I would like to note that I was
> >>> opposed to
> >>> this whole thing from the beginning and worry we are throwing good
> >>> money
> >>> after bad.
> >>>
> >>> This is not the debate case (for anyone just quickly reading FEC) -
> >>> it is a
> >>> case about bequests.  And we could have used the bequest money
> >>> immediately
> >>> if we used it in a certain way, and I objected to spending what
> >>> essentially
> >>> was a dead man's gift to fight something.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 8:52 PM John Phillips via Lnc-business <
> >>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I agree, and I think this is something we could fundraise for fairly
> >>>> easily, as well as an action that the affiliates would support.  If
> >>>> I can
> >>>> help in any way please let me know
> >>>>
> >>>> John Phillips
> >>>> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> >>>> Cell 217-412-5973
> >>>>
> >>>> On May 21, 2019 9:41 PM, Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business <
> >>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear All,
> >>>>
> >>>> We got an opinion in our case against the FEC today. The bad news is
> >>>> that
> >>>> the panel ruled against us. The good news is that the ruling was
> >>>> along
> >>>> party lines, presenting a good case for an appeal to the Supreme
> >>>> Court
> >>>> (where the split of judges is opposite from the D.C. Circuit).
> >>>>
> >>>> A petition for certiorari at the Supreme Court would cost us between
> >>>> $5-10K
> >>>> for printing and filing costs. Our counsel believes it is likely we
> >>>> could
> >>>> get some good amici on the petition for certiorari and would like to
> >>>> file
> >>>> a
> >>>> petition for certiorari.
> >>>>
> >>>> I would like to instruct our counsel to proceed with a petition for
> >>>> certiorari and believe this would be allowable under the policy
> >>>> manual
> >>>> since this is the continuation of litigation that has already been
> >>>> approved
> >>>> by the LNC, but I wanted to email the list to see if anyone had any
> >>>> questions or objections before we proceed.
> >>>>
> >>>> Judgment and opinion attached.
> >>>>
> >>>> Yours truly,
> >>>> Nick
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> *  In Liberty,*
> >>>
> >>> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
> >>> Caryn.Ann.
> >>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> >>> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
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*  In Liberty,*

*Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
*Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
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Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
* Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
* Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
Eliminate Regulation *

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