[Lnc-business] Proposed

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

Mr. Nekhaila:

You nailed the concept I was reaching for: it comprises neutrality.

On Sun, Jul 7, 2019 at 11:21 AM Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> Dear Mr. Fishman & Colleagues,
>
> I want to take a moment to say I appreciate you stepping forward with
> this new idea and hope that you will not be deterred to present many
> others. I for one welcome brainstorming and creative solutions to
> problems and look forward to what else you have to present to the board
> at the Austin meeting.
>
> Having said that, here are my thoughts on this proposal. First and
> foremost, we are in need of a new fundraiser, this is one of the most
> foundational positions in the Party and without a solid fundraiser with
> relationships with donors project and operations flounder. I look
> forward to the findings from Mr. Larks Employment Policy committee in
> their post-employment interview with Ms. Daughtery, I would also
> encourage the ED to speak with Ms. Daughtery while she is still with the
> organization to determine in frank terms what resources we are lacking
> and what opportunities we have to get better.
>
> Secondly, I am not completely against the idea of a paid LNC member for
> fundraising purposes, however, I believe the Vice Chair or an At-Large
> Director seat would be better suited for a full time fundraising
> position for several reasons. One, while we want our Chairperson in the
> spotlight and in the media, that would be better achieved by a third
> party or in-house press company that create and maintains contacts with
> the press. Second, the Chairperson must maintain impartiality, a paid
> position may interfere with this not only for financial conflicts, but
> political conflicts as well. Also there may be issues with generous
> donors who are voting party members who may disapprove of the job of the
> Chair at the time, where a fundraising director would be a neutral
> entity. Third, there is no guarantee that each Chair will be well suited
> for the particular position of fundraising, term over term there may be
> those who are better suited than others, however, it would be beneficial
> for the fundraising director to maintain long term relationships with
> our donors and staff.
>
> On the other hand, the Chairperson is the face of the party and as such
> will be in a better position to charm donors and be the voice of the
> party as a paid staffer. I would like to hear from Mr. Sarwark as to
> what he believes are the potential and experienced impediments of a
> financially independent Chair when it comes to performing those
> functions and how things might be different if paid. The other issue is
> an issue of time, does a Chair, even full time paid, have enough time to
> perform his Chair duties and also, say, run a business or work in their
> career. We could save money by not paying the Chair person to be "full
> time" but instead perform certain functions, but without a single minded
> commitment to the task of fundraising would the Return on Investment be
> as much or less than a full time, higher paid, fundraising director?
>
> I am willing to examine the idea further at the in person meeting but I
> have many questions and would like to seek more perspectives on the
> idea. I believe building a fundraising department with the tools needed
> to succeed is our highest priority this body should pursue right now.
>
> In Liberty,
>
> Steven Nekhaila
> Region 2 Representative
> Libertarian National Committee
>
> Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt
> "Those without power cannot defend freedom"
>
> On 2019-07-06 10:36 PM, Daniel Fishman via Lnc-business wrote:
> > One of my long range goals is a permanently paid chair for the LP. It
> > was
> > further down my agenda list, and I had presumed it would happen when we
> > had
> > greater financial stability. When the opportunity presented itself now
> > though, I decided to try it out. And that means if it works we are
> > talking
> > about the same option for whomever the chair is (and we've never
> > elected a
> > chair to a 4th terms as far as I'm aware).
> >
> > Of course a permanently paid chair is a convention level decision, but
> > one
> > that can only be made if we can indeed afford it. Getting the financial
> > legs to stand on is what you brought me here for.
> >
> > I'm a big believer in not being afraid to fail. In order to not fear
> > failure you must have metrics that can tell you if you are failing.
> > This is
> > a pretty clear cut one. Any fundraising contractor will be expect to be
> > raising enough to cover their costs within a few months. And that
> > includes
> > the Chair. If they can't, that's gets deemed a fail. We terminate the
> > experiment, learn from our mistakes and proceed to the next attempt.
> >
> > To me this seems like a good roll of the dice, with relatively minimum
> > risk
> > to the LNC. Almost all of the risk is borne by the Chair. I am asking
> > to
> > put the Chair on the hot seat. Should any chair be contracted as a
> > fundraiser for the LNC and fail, the ramifications would reverberate
> > till
> > the next convention. Should the chair succeed he benefits every future
> > LNC
> > chair and future LNC by establishing the precedent that (I hope) will
> > lead
> > the delegates to approving a permanently paid chair. I have essentially
> > asked the chair to put his head on the chopping block.
> >
> > And it should be pointed out too Mr. Chair, that when I asked you if
> > you
> > would be amenable you suggested I bring the idea to the LNC first. I
> > have
> > done so, but you still have not actually indicated that you would
> > indeed
> > accept the contract. I'm assuming you have been seeking counsel of your
> > own? Are you prepared to firmly commit to accepting a contract should
> > one
> > be offered?
> >
> > The chair is in a unique position to do things that will affect
> > fundraising, such as media appearances, published articles. As such the
> > unique position is one I think the LNC should try paying for to see if
> > it
> > increases our revenue.
> >
> > ---
> > Daniel Fishman
> > Executive Director
> > The Libertarian Party
> > Join Us <http://www.lp.org/join>
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 3:45 PM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> >> It is already all of our jobs to fundraise.  Pay expenses? Certainly.
> >> Salary?  No.
> >>
> >> I volunteer - expenses only.
> >>
> >> Seriously after the shitstorm last year for legitimate fundraising
> >> it’s all
> >> of a sudden different because it’s Nick and with salary?  I was in
> >> danger
> >> of (ridiculously) of bribing votes with t-shirts but this is okay?
> >>
> >> Is Nick re-running?  Would there be no using of a salaried position to
> >> influence internal politics?
> >>
> >> I’ll say it right now, then every chair candidate must be given equal
> >> opportunity.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 12:20 PM John Phillips via Lnc-business <
> >> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I think other people said that more recently than I, its been a few
> >> months
> >> > since I did 😂, tho I hinted at it.
> >> >
> >> > Well thought out as always.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > John Phillips
> >> > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> >> > Cell 217-412-5973
> >> >
> >> > On Jul 6, 2019 12:59 PM, Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business <
> >> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I guess Mr. Fishman's honeymoon period is over!
> >> >
> >> > I'm willing to hear out our ED and not shoot it down immediately, but
> >> > for my part I will need a lot more details when we consider it. If
> we're
> >> > hiring a contractor, I want to know precisely what tasks the
> contractor
> >> > will be doing on at least a quarterly basis if not a monthly or weekly
> >> > basis, and how (and who) will be actively monitoring progress and
> >> > adjusting based on the results.
> >> >
> >> > I will also need to review the information addressing whether this
> >> > violates the Bylaws or common past understandings of the role of the
> >> > Chair or LNC members.
> >> >
> >> > This contractor-who-knows-us approach would be preferable, in my view,
> >> > to hiring a commission fundraiser who knows little about us and
> >> > therefore will be ineffective at securing major donors willing to
> invest
> >> > long-term with us. In-person telemarketing, which is effectively what
> >> > that is, can be effective for raising money quickly, but only at
> >> > enormous expense (as a percent of dollar raised), great risk of
> >> > misrepresentation, and at the expense of a continuing relationship.
> >> >
> >> > Ideally we need to construct a fundraising department, essentially
> from
> >> > scratch now. We have two main donor audiences - major donors and small
> >> > dollar donors - and each of them needs attention as to their
> >> > prospecting/qualification/opening doors, asking/closing, and
> >> > stewardship/cultivation. That's essentially six completely different
> >> > skills (2 audiences times 3 jobs each) and we can't have one person do
> >> > all of it and expect them to do better than Lauren could. We also
> can't
> >> > hire six people, so the answer is going to be a mix of LNC members,
> the
> >> > ED, staff, and contractors.
> >> >
> >> > If we're going to get to a place where we are raising millions of
> >> > dollars or more each year, building a fundraising department is an
> >> > essential second step. (The first step is doing exciting things donors
> >> > want to support, or at least proposing to focus on those things. On
> that
> >> > part, I'd like to invite Apollo to the next Board meeting and tell us
> >> > what he has up his sleeves.) If what Mr. Fishman proposes is a step in
> >> > that direction, I'm more inclined to support it. If not, not.
> >> >
> >> > As Mr. Phillips I think noted, if we say no to everything and propose
> >> > nothing we will quickly realize in a bad way how important fundraising
> >> > is.
> >> >
> >> > JBH
> >> >
> >> > ------------
> >> > Joe Bishop-Henchman
> >> > LNC Member (At-Large)
> >> > joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> >> > www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
> >> >
> >> > On 2019-07-05 16:50, John Phillips via Lnc-business wrote:
> >> > > Then lets get hiring.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >>
> >> *  In Liberty,*
> >>
> >> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
> >> Caryn.Ann.
> >> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> >> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
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> >>
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Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
* Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
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Eliminate Regulation *

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