[Lnc-business] Proposed

Tue Jul 9 13:34:45 EDT 2019

I have an additional point- I keep hearing about the time urgency, but when
did Lauren give her notice?  I know when we were told, but is the same day?
Most businesses at least immediately start recruiting for key positions.

On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 11:21 AM Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> Hello Nick,
>
> I don't see you advocating for this set-up, but explaining and/or
> answering many of the questions and concerns that have been voiced.
> Thank you for that.
>
> Nor, do I see you advocating for your own financial gain, as the LP
> can't afford to pay much. You'd make more money in the private sector,
> than with a cash-strapped non-profit. (The LP)  If anything, you'd be
> sacrificing potential income under this proposed set-up. I see your
> explanation in a positive light, and appreciate you even considering
> such a dual-headache-role.
>
> I'm not sure having one person doing fundraising and press-secretary, is
> a good idea. Unless we clone Lauren. She had a 'very particular set of
> skills', and not easily replaced. (movie pun intentional ; )
>
> You've explained how you'd have the time, and willing to take on the
> dual role.  IF, such an arrangement were made, you'd be not unlike
> Lauren. You both have young children at home, live in a state a great
> distance to LPHQ, and would need to travel extensively, behalf of the
> LP. You have the advantage of being "the Chair", which carries gravitas.
>   If you stepped down from the Chair position, you'd lose the luster of
> that position, and I see no benefit to the LP if you were to be "a
> former Chair", now fundraiser-guy.
>
> My biggest concern is whether you'd be able to do what Lauren did.
> Willingness aside, would you be able to do what is needed? I don't think
> any of us can answer that.  Much for the LNC to ponder.
>
> Cheers all, and look forward to in-person discussion later this month.
>
> EVH
>
>
> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
> LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
> Chair-Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
> Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
> http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>
>
> On 2019-07-09 02:34, Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business wrote:
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I want to directly address the questions Mr. Fishman raised and those
> > questions that have been raised in the discussion about Mr. Fishman's
> > proposal that I can answer.
> >
> > I am no longer involved in day-to-day operations at the car dealership
> > and
> > loan company, so am able to accept other full-time employment. If the
> > LNC
> > were to approve a contract that was mutually agreeable, I would be
> > available for full-time efforts as long as necessary.
> >
> > I agree that creating a salary that would be attached the Chair's
> > position
> > would require the approval of the delegates at convention. There are
> > good
> > arguments on both sides of that issue as an organization. This
> > situation is
> > about filling in a temporary gap in our capabilities without delay
> > while we
> > seek a candidate to fill the Development Director position and while we
> > are
> > without a Press Secretary. I am willing to take on those extra duties,
> > but
> > can't spend my work week on it without being paid for my time.
> >
> > Some people have suggested that the position be commission only. I
> > would
> > not be comfortable with that. There are advantages in fundraising to my
> > position in the organization that would create the potential for very
> > large
> > commissions that would take away from the resources we need to spend on
> > party projects and operations. My preference would be an agreed on flat
> > hourly rate.
> >
> > Some have suggested that I should do all of the necessary fundraising
> > as a
> > volunteer. I would love to be independently wealthy and to be able to
> > spend
> > all of my working hours on the position of National Chair, but that is
> > not
> > the situation I am in at this point in my life. If the LNC chooses not
> > to
> > move in this direction, I will find a different opportunity to spend
> > the
> > bulk of my working week on, but I would like to spend that time on
> > doing
> > what the Libertarian Party needs at this critical time.
> >
> > Yours truly,
> > Nick
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 7:36 PM Daniel Fishman via Lnc-business <
> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> >> One of my long range goals is a permanently paid chair for the LP. It
> >> was
> >> further down my agenda list, and I had presumed it would happen when
> >> we had
> >> greater financial stability. When the opportunity presented itself now
> >> though, I decided to try it out. And that means if it works we are
> >> talking
> >> about the same option for whomever the chair is (and we've never
> >> elected a
> >> chair to a 4th terms as far as I'm aware).
> >>
> >> Of course a permanently paid chair is a convention level decision, but
> >> one
> >> that can only be made if we can indeed afford it. Getting the
> >> financial
> >> legs to stand on is what you brought me here for.
> >>
> >> I'm a big believer in not being afraid to fail. In order to not fear
> >> failure you must have metrics that can tell you if you are failing.
> >> This is
> >> a pretty clear cut one. Any fundraising contractor will be expect to
> >> be
> >> raising enough to cover their costs within a few months. And that
> >> includes
> >> the Chair. If they can't, that's gets deemed a fail. We terminate the
> >> experiment, learn from our mistakes and proceed to the next attempt.
> >>
> >> To me this seems like a good roll of the dice, with relatively minimum
> >> risk
> >> to the LNC. Almost all of the risk is borne by the Chair. I am asking
> >> to
> >> put the Chair on the hot seat. Should any chair be contracted as a
> >> fundraiser for the LNC and fail, the ramifications would reverberate
> >> till
> >> the next convention. Should the chair succeed he benefits every future
> >> LNC
> >> chair and future LNC by establishing the precedent that (I hope) will
> >> lead
> >> the delegates to approving a permanently paid chair. I have
> >> essentially
> >> asked the chair to put his head on the chopping block.
> >>
> >> And it should be pointed out too Mr. Chair, that when I asked you if
> >> you
> >> would be amenable you suggested I bring the idea to the LNC first. I
> >> have
> >> done so, but you still have not actually indicated that you would
> >> indeed
> >> accept the contract. I'm assuming you have been seeking counsel of
> >> your
> >> own? Are you prepared to firmly commit to accepting a contract should
> >> one
> >> be offered?
> >>
> >> The chair is in a unique position to do things that will affect
> >> fundraising, such as media appearances, published articles. As such
> >> the
> >> unique position is one I think the LNC should try paying for to see if
> >> it
> >> increases our revenue.
> >>
> >> ---
> >> Daniel Fishman
> >> Executive Director
> >> The Libertarian Party
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> >>
> >>
>
> --

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