[Lnc-business] Motion to censure Benjamin Leder

Wed Jul 10 20:46:07 EDT 2019

Coming from Florida I do not believe in witch hunts.

However, the Florida witch hunts concerned people who did not commit or 
threaten actual violence, and were halted.

We have always held it true that any memeber who wished to use violence 
to achieve social & political goals violates the non-aggression pledge, 
thus we would censure or remove that person to the best of our 
abilities.

As such, I co-sponsor this motion.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila
Region 2 Representative
Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt
"Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2019-07-10 08:36 PM, Joshua Smith via Lnc-business wrote:
> We have the right to, at the very least, protect our brand, and we
> have been historically bad about that.
> 
> Let's change that.
> 
> -Joshua
> 
> On Jul 10, 2019 5:25 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> Mr. Goldstein, ask Mr. Dasbach how useful it would have been had we
>> made a statement about McVey ahead of time.  That is the use.   One
>> nut could forever tarnish this party.
>> 
>> -Caryn Ann
>> 
>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 6:21 PM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business
>> <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Tell me exactly what a censure motion will accomplish.  You stand
>>> a
>>> better chance of making him a martyr than silencing him. He will
>>> still
>>> appear at the convention, state debates and on the nomination
>>> stage even
>>> if you do succeed in passing this motion.
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> Sam Goldstein
>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>> 317-850-0726 Cell
>>> 
>>> On 2019-07-10 20:14, Joshua Smith wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Because he has directly threatened our convention, our members,
>>> their families, etc.
>>>> 
>>>> It's something that needs to be done to show we care about our
>>> membership. We can spend ten minutes on a motion, and still get
>>> candidates elected Sam. I promise.
>>>> 
>>>> -Joshua
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 10, 2019 5:12 PM, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business
>>> <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Do we really want to start this nonsense?  I will not cosponsor
>>> and will
>>>>> vote no if this becomes a motion.  I am nere
>>>>> to get Libertarians elected to public office, not give
>>> attention to
>>>>> someone who will likely be out on the first ballot
>>>>> at Austin.  Why give him more attention than he deserves.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Sam Goldstein
>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>>> 317-850-0726 Cell
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2019-07-10 20:04, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>>>> I will co-sponsor
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 6:01 PM Joshua Smith via Lnc-business
>>> <
>>>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And I know it's heinous. I was typing too fast.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2019 4:53 PM, Joshua Smith via Lnc-business <
>>>>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Good evening esteemed colleagues,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am currently looking for co-sponsors for my motion to
>>> censure
>>>>>>> Benjamin
>>>>>>> Leder. He is a candidate for our POTUS Nomination and has
>>> been
>>>>>>> spreading
>>>>>>> some pretty hanus stuff. I believe that as party leadership
>>> it is
>>>>>>> extremely
>>>>>>> important that we let the party know that we arent supportive
>>> of these
>>>>>>> actions.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Motion below:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> To the Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> WHEREAS, Mr. Benjamin Leder (Texas) is currently running to
>>> be elected
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> the Libertarian Party's nominee for President of the United
>>> States;
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> WHEREAS, Mr. Leder has continually engaged in behavior that
>>> goes
>>>>>>> directly
>>>>>>> against our core principles and is antithetical to the
>>> mission of any
>>>>>>> representative of the Libertarian Party;
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> WHEREAS, He has made direct violent threats and approval of
>>> domestic
>>>>>>> terrorism against the Libertarian Party, including its
>>> National
>>>>>>> Committee
>>>>>>> members, conventions, candidates, and members of local
>>> affiliates, in
>>>>>>> cases
>>>>>>> not in self-defense, but in blatant aggression to achieve
>>> political
>>>>>>> goals;
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> WHEREAS, As examples of the above, he has published articles,
>>> appeared
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> media, and  posted on social media clear threats of violence
>>> and
>>>>>>> advocate
>>>>>>> of domestic terrorism on peaceful people,  including calling
>>> for an
>>>>>>> "Oklahoma City style" ending to not only the Democratic and
>>> Republican
>>>>>>> conventions, but also of the 2020 Libertarian National
>>> Convention,
>>>>>>> thus
>>>>>>> putting in danger our staff, delegates, and family members;
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> WHEREAS, He has made public, violent statements about killing
>>> peaceful
>>>>>>> people and "leaving their bodies in contractor bags at the
>>> curb for
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> garbage man";
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> WHEREAS, He has called for members who support the official
>>>>>>> Libertarian
>>>>>>> Party position of being anti-war to be physically battered;
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party absolutely repudiates
>>> non-defensive
>>>>>>> violence and all aggression against peaceful people, and
>>> associating
>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>> statements with our Party defames its members and brand; and
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> RESOLVED, That the Libertarian National Committee condemns
>>> these
>>>>>>> actions
>>>>>>> by Mr. Leder as completely abhorrent to the mission,
>>> platform, and
>>>>>>> principles of the Libertarian Party.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Respectfully submitted,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Joshua D. Smith, LNC At Large Representative
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> *  In Liberty,*
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
>>> Secretary *-
>>>>>> Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>>> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
>>>>>> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
>>>>>> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/ [1]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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>>>>>> Tax
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>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> --
>> 
>> IN LIBERTY,
>> __
>> 
>> LIBERTARIAN PARTY AND LIBERTARIAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE SECRETARY -
>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>> CHAIR, LP HISTORICAL PRESERVATION COMMITTEE - LPedia at LP.org
>> 
>> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
>> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/ [1]
>> 
>> 
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>> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism *
>> Re-Legalize All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom *
>> Repeal All Gun Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market
>> Money * Abolish The Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare *
>> Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation
>> Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services * Open Migration *
>> Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector * Eliminate
>> Regulation *
>> 
>> VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US OR HTTP://WWW.LP.ORG [2]
>> 
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