[Lnc-business] Motion to censure Benjamin Leder

Wed Jul 10 22:05:31 EDT 2019

I will start this ballot later this evening.

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On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 6:58 PM Richard Longstreth <
richard.longstreth at lp.org> wrote:

> I will cosponsor as well and reserve my vote for further argument. All
> motions should be heard and discussed.
>
> Richard Longstreth
> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
> Libertarian National Committee
> richard.longstreth at lp.org
> 931.538.9300
>
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> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019, 17:25 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
>> Mr. Goldstein, ask Mr. Dasbach how useful it would have been had we made a
>> statement about McVey ahead of time.  That is the use.   One nut could
>> forever tarnish this party.
>>
>> -Caryn Ann
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 6:21 PM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business <
>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Tell me exactly what a censure motion will accomplish.  You stand a
>> > better chance of making him a martyr than silencing him. He will still
>> > appear at the convention, state debates and on the nomination stage even
>> > if you do succeed in passing this motion.
>> >
>> > ---
>> > Sam Goldstein
>> > Libertarian National Committee
>> > 317-850-0726 Cell
>> >
>> > On 2019-07-10 20:14, Joshua Smith wrote:
>> >
>> > > Because he has directly threatened our convention, our members, their
>> > families, etc.
>> > >
>> > > It's something that needs to be done to show we care about our
>> > membership. We can spend ten minutes on a motion, and still get
>> candidates
>> > elected Sam. I promise.
>> > >
>> > > -Joshua
>> > >
>> > > On Jul 10, 2019 5:12 PM, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business <
>> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Do we really want to start this nonsense?  I will not cosponsor and
>> > will
>> > >> vote no if this becomes a motion.  I am nere
>> > >> to get Libertarians elected to public office, not give attention to
>> > >> someone who will likely be out on the first ballot
>> > >> at Austin.  Why give him more attention than he deserves.
>> > >>
>> > >> ---
>> > >> Sam Goldstein
>> > >> Libertarian National Committee
>> > >> 317-850-0726 Cell
>> > >>
>> > >> On 2019-07-10 20:04, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>> > >>> I will co-sponsor
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 6:01 PM Joshua Smith via Lnc-business <
>> > >>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> And I know it's heinous. I was typing too fast.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Jul 10, 2019 4:53 PM, Joshua Smith via Lnc-business <
>> > >>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Good evening esteemed colleagues,
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> I am currently looking for co-sponsors for my motion to censure
>> > >>>> Benjamin
>> > >>>> Leder. He is a candidate for our POTUS Nomination and has been
>> > >>>> spreading
>> > >>>> some pretty hanus stuff. I believe that as party leadership it is
>> > >>>> extremely
>> > >>>> important that we let the party know that we arent supportive of
>> > these
>> > >>>> actions.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Motion below:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> To the Libertarian National Committee
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> WHEREAS, Mr. Benjamin Leder (Texas) is currently running to be
>> > elected
>> > >>>> as
>> > >>>> the Libertarian Party's nominee for President of the United States;
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> WHEREAS, Mr. Leder has continually engaged in behavior that goes
>> > >>>> directly
>> > >>>> against our core principles and is antithetical to the mission of
>> any
>> > >>>> representative of the Libertarian Party;
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> WHEREAS, He has made direct violent threats and approval of
>> domestic
>> > >>>> terrorism against the Libertarian Party, including its National
>> > >>>> Committee
>> > >>>> members, conventions, candidates, and members of local affiliates,
>> in
>> > >>>> cases
>> > >>>> not in self-defense, but in blatant aggression to achieve political
>> > >>>> goals;
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> WHEREAS, As examples of the above, he has published articles,
>> > appeared
>> > >>>> in
>> > >>>> media, and  posted on social media clear threats of violence and
>> > >>>> advocate
>> > >>>> of domestic terrorism on peaceful people,  including calling for an
>> > >>>> "Oklahoma City style" ending to not only the Democratic and
>> > Republican
>> > >>>> conventions, but also of the 2020 Libertarian National Convention,
>> > >>>> thus
>> > >>>> putting in danger our staff, delegates, and family members;
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> WHEREAS, He has made public, violent statements about killing
>> > peaceful
>> > >>>> people and "leaving their bodies in contractor bags at the curb for
>> > >>>> the
>> > >>>> garbage man";
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> WHEREAS, He has called for members who support the official
>> > >>>> Libertarian
>> > >>>> Party position of being anti-war to be physically battered;
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party absolutely repudiates non-defensive
>> > >>>> violence and all aggression against peaceful people, and
>> associating
>> > >>>> such
>> > >>>> statements with our Party defames its members and brand; and
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> RESOLVED, That the Libertarian National Committee condemns these
>> > >>>> actions
>> > >>>> by Mr. Leder as completely abhorrent to the mission, platform, and
>> > >>>> principles of the Libertarian Party.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Respectfully submitted,
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Joshua D. Smith, LNC At Large Representative
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> --
>> > >>>
>> > >>> *  In Liberty,*
>> > >>>
>> > >>> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
>> > >>> Caryn.Ann.
>> > >>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>> > >>> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
>> > >>> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
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>> > >>>
>> > >>>
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>>
>> --
>>
>> *  In Liberty,*
>>
>> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
>> Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
>> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
>> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
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>> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
>> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
>> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
>> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
>> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
>> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
>> Eliminate Regulation *
>>
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