[Lnc-business] Why moving the list to Google is a bad idea

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

LPCO does too.  But our email needs are apples and oranges.

Dan, I have several more things related to this I want to bounce off you,
can we make an appt?

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 1:48 PM brent.olsen--- via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> LP California uses G Suites.  It works quite well, generally speaking.
> Only a few occasional issues.  Personally I am not opposed to this
> switch.
>
> -Brent
>
> On 2019-07-31 11:53, Daniel Fishman via Lnc-business wrote:
> > What I am proposing is to move the entire mail service for lists to a
> > google group -- not a redirection, reflector or anything else. The
> > current
> > system requires an engineer to fix things when they break. The new
> > system
> > will not. I believe in turnkey everything that you can. Groups are also
> > optimized for both mobile and desktop users.
> >
> > Read more about google groups at :
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/a/lphq.org/forum/#!overview
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Daniel Fishman
> > Executive Director
> > The Libertarian Party
> > Join Us <http://www.lp.org/join>
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 11:25 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> >> I’ll dig out the prior emails with details.
> >>
> >> But first and foremost, we already have a google list.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 9:13 AM John Phillips <john.phillips at lp.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I personally do not understand the objection to the change - I do
> >> > understand the objection to the change being made by a single person's
> >> > decision since it directly impacts the interaction of the LNC and the
> >> > members.
> >> >
> >> > If there is an objection to the change it absolutely should be
> discussed.
> >> >
> >> > Caryn Ann if you would indulge me and try to help me understand your
> >> > objection I will absolutely listen.  Perhaps it is something than can
> be
> >> > addressed in a way that solves the problems AND addresses your
> >> objections.
> >> >
> >> > John Phillips
> >> > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> >> > Cell 217-412-5973
> >> >
> >> > On Jul 31, 2019 10:01 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> >> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > It is if the LNC objects.  I, as an officer, on behalf of the member
> who
> >> > is
> >> > responsible for getting the bylaws transparency provision passed, am
> >> > objecting.
> >> >
> >> > I trust that Mr. Fishman isn’t interested in implementing something
> that
> >> > will deeply upset some of them our long term dedicated members and
> former
> >> > LNC officers have themselves.
> >> >
> >> > -Caryn Ann
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 8:38 AM Joshua Smith via Lnc-business <
> >> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Currently, it is not outside of the scope of the ED to change the
> >> email.
> >> > > At least, not as far as I can tell in the bylaws and policy manual.
> >> > >
> >> > > -Joshua
> >> > >
> >> > > On Jul 31, 2019 5:59 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> >> > > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Well not really but I don't' think anyone realizes the list is
> ALREADY
> >> > on
> >> > > google.  We don't need two google lists.  We need to fix the one we
> >> > have,
> >> > > and the current google list will have to suffice until then, but
> Chuck
> >> > > Moulton is right to be alarmed we are going to kill off the google
> >> list.
> >> > > I
> >> > > don't think this is an ED only decision and would object to any
> >> > unilateral
> >> > > decision on his or his and the chair's part.
> >> > >
> >> > > *  In Liberty,*
> >> > > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> Syndrome
> >> > > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> >> > > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
> anyone
> >> > > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
> >> > faux
> >> > > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me
> know.
> >> *
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> >
> >> > *In Liberty,*
> >> >
> >> > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> >> > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> >> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
> anyone
> >> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
> faux
> >> > pas), please contact me privately and let me know.  *
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >>
> >> *In Liberty,*
> >>
> >> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> >> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> >> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
> >> anyone
> >> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
> >> faux
> >> pas), please contact me privately and let me know.  *
> >>
>
> --

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
(part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
pas), please contact me privately and let me know.  *