[Lnc-business] Why moving the list to Google is a bad idea

[Daniel Fishman]

It would be a MASSIVE step up in security.

Dan
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Daniel Fishman
Executive Director
The Libertarian Party
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On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 5:00 PM Dustin Nanna via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> Probably a dumb question, but will it be a step down in security to switch
> entirely to Google??
>
> On Jul 31, 2019 3:32 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> LPCO does too.  But our email needs are apples and oranges.
>
> Dan, I have several more things related to this I want to bounce off you,
> can we make an appt?
>
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 1:48 PM brent.olsen--- via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> > LP California uses G Suites.  It works quite well, generally speaking.
> > Only a few occasional issues.  Personally I am not opposed to this
> > switch.
> >
> > -Brent
> >
> > On 2019-07-31 11:53, Daniel Fishman via Lnc-business wrote:
> > > What I am proposing is to move the entire mail service for lists to a
> > > google group -- not a redirection, reflector or anything else. The
> > > current
> > > system requires an engineer to fix things when they break. The new
> > > system
> > > will not. I believe in turnkey everything that you can. Groups are
> also
> > > optimized for both mobile and desktop users.
> > >
> > > Read more about google groups at :
> > >
> > > https://groups.google.com/a/lphq.org/forum/#!overview
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Daniel Fishman
> > > Executive Director
> > > The Libertarian Party
> > > Join Us <http://www.lp.org/join>
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 11:25 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> > > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I’ll dig out the prior emails with details.
> > >>
> > >> But first and foremost, we already have a google list.
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 9:13 AM John Phillips <john.phillips at lp.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > I personally do not understand the objection to the change - I do
> > >> > understand the objection to the change being made by a single
> person's
> > >> > decision since it directly impacts the interaction of the LNC and
> the
> > >> > members.
> > >> >
> > >> > If there is an objection to the change it absolutely should be
> > discussed.
> > >> >
> > >> > Caryn Ann if you would indulge me and try to help me understand
> your
> > >> > objection I will absolutely listen.  Perhaps it is something than
> can
> > be
> > >> > addressed in a way that solves the problems AND addresses your
> > >> objections.
> > >> >
> > >> > John Phillips
> > >> > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> > >> > Cell 217-412-5973
> > >> >
> > >> > On Jul 31, 2019 10:01 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> > >> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > It is if the LNC objects.  I, as an officer, on behalf of the
> member
> > who
> > >> > is
> > >> > responsible for getting the bylaws transparency provision passed,
> am
> > >> > objecting.
> > >> >
> > >> > I trust that Mr. Fishman isn’t interested in implementing something
> > that
> > >> > will deeply upset some of them our long term dedicated members and
> > former
> > >> > LNC officers have themselves.
> > >> >
> > >> > -Caryn Ann
> > >> >
> > >> > On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 8:38 AM Joshua Smith via Lnc-business <
> > >> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Currently, it is not outside of the scope of the ED to change the
> > >> email.
> > >> > > At least, not as far as I can tell in the bylaws and policy
> manual.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > -Joshua
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Jul 31, 2019 5:59 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> > >> > > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Well not really but I don't' think anyone realizes the list is
> > ALREADY
> > >> > on
> > >> > > google.  We don't need two google lists.  We need to fix the one
> we
> > >> > have,
> > >> > > and the current google list will have to suffice until then, but
> > Chuck
> > >> > > Moulton is right to be alarmed we are going to kill off the
> google
> > >> list.
> > >> > > I
> > >> > > don't think this is an ED only decision and would object to any
> > >> > unilateral
> > >> > > decision on his or his and the chair's part.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > *  In Liberty,*
> > >> > > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> > Syndrome
> > >> > > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> > >> > > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
> > anyone
> > >> > > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
> social
> > >> > faux
> > >> > > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me
> > know.
> > >> *
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --
> > >> >
> > >> > *In Liberty,*
> > >> >
> > >> > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> Syndrome
> > >> > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> > >> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
> > anyone
> > >> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
> social
> > faux
> > >> > pas), please contact me privately and let me know.  *
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >>
> > >> *In Liberty,*
> > >>
> > >> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> Syndrome
> > >> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> > >> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
> > >> anyone
> > >> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
> > >> faux
> > >> pas), please contact me privately and let me know.  *
> > >>
> >
> > --
>
> *In Liberty,*
>
> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> pas), please contact me privately and let me know.  *
>
>
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